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I never said that in the post you quoted and call me a tit in, fud chops, where you were clearly having issues understanding the logical 'if' clause I had used. mea culpa.

I just said 'if it...finances' nae-wit

Why, I do believe you are utterly deluded. All this talk about 'deliberately' doing this, that and the next - you were all quite cosy with deliberately withholding tax and having various underhand schemes to gain an edge on other teams. Fitting the crime? If it to do with non-payment of Tax and NIC, you should be kicked out of the league. Why? Easy: had you been paying your dues you would have been bankrupt in November. Regarding your 'appeal as an investment' - isn't it a shame that a governing body would seek to punish your club with such a mAAASSSIIVe fine at the same time many of you shysters would stiff creditors out of tens of millions of pounds, including some who have sold players to your club in good faith. get it fucking roond ye

I think Vlad's half way down that road already.

More attractive, obviously. Why, even now, there's yet another Far East/North American/European/Russian/Middle Eastern/Deposed Nigerian Prince hurriedly faxing a final first offer to look into getting some air time and/or a few column inches in the Daily Retard.

Can't remember Motherwell or Dundee lying through their teeth to the SFA. What you fail to understand is that the SFA haven't fined Rangers a single penny for financial mismanagement - it's all regarding your club aping the rules. get it fucking roond ye

Talks the most sense on every thread on there.

I like the concept of banning a guy for life at the same time as fining him.

Don't know about the rest of it, but the 12 month singing ban has come about after recent renditions of the Billy Boys were recorded by Vince Lunny. I think.

re Aluko, and to alleviate their pain: He can sign. Of course, as a free agent in few weeks, he can also walk away.

It would appear that they have, at best (or worst), two* homes games left. Ever. So that's maybe not the best idea. *subject to confirmation

So, is Daniel Cousin no signing then?

On reflection though, if a transfer of share in the SPL is used, does that mean the SFA license and by extension these measures are also transferred? Or would the share be transferred to a NewCo, who, by having a share in the SPL, is automatically granted a new (clean) license from the SFA? Clear as mud.

re point five: I was discussing this the other day and wondered if that's what would happen if Haudit and Daudit successfully challenged Agent Whhyte's purchase of the club - would it revert back to Murray and if not, who would own it?

Of course, the SFA will receive heehaw from Whyte as they've absolutely no jurisdiction over him whatsoever and will be forced to sing for their money from der orkenkind (in administration). The 12 month signing embargo is rendered worthless in a couple of weeks (days??) time anyway when Rangers FC become Govan Inbreds FC. Still, I'm sure Regan et al got some very nice chicken satays from their working lunches.

Ouch I wonder how and when they'll collect any of the fines.

Bollocks, actually posted before making any kind of point whatsoever, or even asking the question in mind: is this regards the cash sitting 'somewhere' in Collyer Bristow's account?

I think it's wishful fantasy, tbh, but yes, the removal of H&D would be erm, I don't know - I think they're doing a grand job and really don't want them to pack up.

Scottish footballing media take on it (thus far): Craig Whyte is a Brazllianaire Rangers have no debt now. Rangers have a bit of debt. Craig Whyte is a baddy. Rangers are in administration. Rangers to exit administration within a couple of weeks (CVA). David Murray needs some publicity (Craig Whyte is a very very bad baddy). Rangers are tens of millions in debt, and nobody saw it coming. Rangers struggling to move out of administration. Big players manoeuvring to buy stricken club. Big players to enable Rangers to exit administration within a couple of weeks (CVA). H&D holding back bid process. Big players disappear. Rangers to exit administration within a couple of weeks (CVA) H&D are baddies too (too close to Whyte). Big players come back (and propose CVA) Big players hide. CVA. Journalist wins award for being wrong (the most) next? Have I missed anything?

As I said, likely to be pash. I think they were suggesting it was the High Court in London. Unsure how that would work given that H&D were appointed at the Court of Session in Embra.

Rumour on KDS that HMRC have applied for, and been granted, a session at the High Court for the removal of Haudit and Daudit. More than likely pash.

There's also currently zero chance of relegation, so with that in mind, I feel it more than balances out. Add in the fact that each league would have one club pushed up the ladder in the first instance and it's truly win-win. I wonder what kind of support they'd bring to away games? Would Queens Park be looking at 10k+? What about Elgin, Peterhead, Berwick and Stranraer? Full houses?

Boooooo Really pisses me off that for the first time in almost 20 years, there's a good chance of 1-2 not being Celtic/Rangers, Rangers/Celtic for more than a flash in the pan season and it would just coincide with the first time in about a decade that we'll not have two teams in the CL/qualifiers. All that tax dodging and share issues has simply brought us round to where we were in 1997/98 - mid 20s ranking in Europe, except this time around most of the SPL are pretty much insolvent.

Aye, the supporters did run them into admin, in much the same way as it was all Craig Whyte's fault that Rangers went into admin. ---------------- ---------------- The rest, yes. ---------------- The front four (???) rows at Ibrox on three sides can be removed increasing the pitch size (they were installed 20 years ago IIRC). ---------------- More on Stockport and the every-giving Brian Kennedy though: The 'little or no money' bit is a reference to the deals struck upon purchase of the club from Kennedy where sponsorship was provided by Kennedy in return for revenue sharing between Sale and Stockport, which effectively meant that even including the sponsorship deal, the transfer of money between the two outfits was almost wholly in one direction (and it was not towards Stockport). Stockport would hand over almost a third of transfer income and fully 50% of all conferencing/wedding/venue hire income to Sale/Kennedy. In the three years immediately after taking control of the club, the supporters trust would pay around £1m to Kennedy, forcing them to borrow and not pay taxes and borrow and... ...not pay more taxes and borrow and then go into administration. On the other hand, Kennedy did sign a deal that would see three quarters of a million head in the opposite direction. In double that three year period. ---------------- And as far as I'm aware, he's only ever written off that one 'future' chunk of rent from the £100k+ he charges per year. (taken from Vital County)