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On 10/04/2018 at 16:02, peternapper said:
If Colt teams still get places in the Challenge Cup again next season I personally & would urge other supporters to not attend those games, we have been lucky so far not having to face a Colt but if it happened I would stay away to keep making the point they are not wanted.
Possibly the ballsiest thing Barry Ferguson did as Clyde manager was to show the level of respect that you mention for the Challenge Cup.
He held a training session for the First Team on the pitch outside Broadwood whilst he sent the Under 20s team and coaching staff to face Partick Thistle Colts. Clyde got thumped but the point was made.
If other managers showed the competition that level of respect then it would be binned very quickly. The media keep talking about how successful the new Challenge Cup format has been and have ignored the fact that fans, players and managers hate it.
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A reminder that 74.4% of respondents to a Supporters Direct survey rejected the idea of Colts teams in the league. Would assume the majority of people who backed the idea were supporters of Old Firm clubs.
Clyde provided the largest number of responses to the survey.
http://www.scottishsupporters.net/results-of-supporter-led-consultation-on-colt-team-proposals/
Supporters being ignored again.
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This has been a done deal for ages. John Robertson was even on the BBC at the beginning of the season talking about his plans for ICT and mentioned preparing to have a Colts team next season.
Malky Mackay when questioned on Radio Scotland claimed that only Rangers and Celtic would likely take up a Colts team due to the costs involved. I think he's wrong in that as the costs will not differ much from running their existing Under 20s. Actually there will likely be greater financial reward compared to the Development League.
I've been amazed at how much the mainstream media have ignored opposition to Colts teams over the last year. They keep describing the Irn Bru Cup as a massive success when supporters have voted with their feet and the Colts teams dumped out in the early rounds.
Hopefully TNS or Crusaders win this year's Irn Bru Cup and the sight of the prize money disappearing out of Scottish football might wake some people up to the nonsense of that competition.
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52 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said:
It depends on what type of decision is being made - some can have 100% Premiership and championship support but still be voted downThe decisions in which that can occur normally revolve around what type of biscuits should be ordered for board meetings.
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1 hour ago, Cowden Cowboy said:
Colt teams cannot win promotion to the SPFL as you suggest - one club can't have 2 sides in SPFL under existing rulesMinor inconvenience.
The Premiership clubs can outvote the total of the League One and League Two clubs due to the weighted voting system and so that rule will be changed if it exists.
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22 hours ago, Bazil85 said:
Would any of us be happy with this? I don't want the Old Firm Colts in our league structure in any way shape or form, if this gives them a path for promotion into the league structure then I hope clubs knock it back.
In saying that, even if it doesn't allow for them to get promoted I still wouldn't want it. Isn't fair on clubs at that level and youth players playing at that level will be very unlikely to develop into the kind of quality player needed. I also don't think 16-20 year olds playing in League 1/2 are very likely to end up at a level good enough to get us to a majort tournament.
SPFL clubs don't get a say in who gets admitted to the Lowland/Highland Leagues or the feeder leagues below them so would not be able to knock it back.
The pyramid system has made it possible that Colt teams can be added into these lower leagues and work their way up into the SPFL without any say from the clubs currently residing there.
It's a stitch up and it's going to happen and it's probably going to happen next season. John Robertson is already quoted as saying he is planning for a Colts team with Caley Thistle next season.
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Old Firm Colts will be in the Lowland League next season.
No need for an SPFL vote. It's a done deal.
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I wonder if Clyde appointing Jim Chapman who is involved in Project Brave will change their previously strong stance against the introduction of Colts teams into the league or cup competitions.
As a fan owned club I would hope that the appointment of a manager doesn't change the clubs stance which has so far mirrored that of the vast majority of supporters.
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Appealing for applicants on the website for manager doesn't sound too good. Was hoping they'd had someone lined up ready to come in.
Manager posts have to be advertised per league rules.0 -
All communications regarding the club and it's activities from club officials should be through the official club site.
One of the thing that does annoy me is information being shared in an informal manner and to personal associates of people at the club or on personal social media pages.
How many times do you hear gossip at the matches that is claimed to originate from board members or others at the club!
Let everyone know or no one.
David Douglas isn't a club official and doesn't even hold a volunteer position so he can do and say what he wants.
Norrie Innes on the other hand is the Chairman and everything should be done through official channels. I get the feeling he has been ambushed by Douglas following Douglas' Facebook post at the weekend.
A baptism of fire into the politics of Clyde Football Club.0 -
His relevance is he has still been actively involved with the club and is keen to take us forward.
In what way?
I'm quite within my rights to question why someone who stood down as CEO is still telling people he is CEO.
I'd assume one of the next announcements will be Heartfelt renewing their shirt sponsorship for next season....0 -
What relevance has David Douglas to anything?
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Ask them yourself. Have you never wondered the amount of people who spend 6-18 months at the club, and why?
It's amazing. If i were in possession of a blazer and a tie, you'd be gasping for the sweat off my jockstrap. Every word taken as gospel. What a state to be in.
And again you still manage to avoid stating any actual evidence. You just made it up.
Enjoy your evening. I'll check in tomorrow for the next installment of the voices inside your head. Remember to take your meds.0 -
Aye, cos' i'll do what YOU tell me, you sanctimonious breast.
There's plenty of evidence of this current bunch pissing people about, by dithering and flapping like fannies. If you don't believe the business community of our locale don't speak to one another, and the frightening amount of relocation, sponsorship and business opportunities fucked up hasn't been noticed, even if shielded brilliantly by your handlers, you're even more deluded than i first thought.
Innes is a proven success, and simply wouldn't act so unprofessionally. Maybe some are afraid they'll be found out.
Plenty of evidence yet you seem unable to provide us with any specific examples.
You said you had heard that Innes is unpopular with the current board. Please tell us where you heard this or admit you made it up.
Did you hear it from a director? Second hand, third hand? Maybe the voice inside your head told you?
It's a simple question. If he's unpopular with the current board then we should know why. Tell us.0 -
Hit a nerve, Sal? I'll gladly chat anywhere than on here. Even i have my boundaries.
Ok, I understand that you don't want to drop your handler in it by divulging your sources. Maybe then you could ask them to explain why if Innes is so unpopular did the board vote for him twice to install him in the role of Chairman? Report back to us here. Thanks.0 -
Not a bit of it. At least, no more made up, than dicks like you continuing to accuse supporters of wishing the appointment, the team, the club etc to fail. Honestly, Sally....your buddies ain't that fucking important, outwith their own bubble.
Innes, by my calculations, wouldn't have fared any better, and most certainly a lot worse, in surrounding himself in Yes men, given the scale and significance of his extensive work. Im sure he doesn't need advice from their cronies in this instance, in how to achieve his goals, but i'm sure you'll get the attention you're looking for if you have a problem with anything he does going forward.
What makes you say that Norrie Innes's appointment is unpopular amongst the board?
Back your statement up with facts or its nothing more than made up nonsense.0 -
Where did I say I wanted every detail
My point is the crap that has been dished out over the years , you forgot about name change ?
These guys have done a brilliant job haven't they ? Have you read innes statement he tell you everything that's wrong commercial, youth etc
clearly you don't care what the board do , looking at the shambles that has been this season you think give them another go
All about opinions
Of course the season has been a shambles. They should have got rid of Barry after the Stirling Albion game.
You are setting the new chair up to fail if you tell him to get rid of the current board though. That's obvious.
He's already going to have to find a new management team and a new commercial director and now your asking him to replace all the other directors as well? Whilst doing this you expect him to also relocate the club? That's a massive amount of pressure to put on the guy.
Where will these new directors come from? Will you expect him to find these replacements from his business contacts, persuade them that it's a job worth doing for free and then hope they hit the ground running? He's going to have to piss with the cock he's got and we have to support him otherwise it's fucked. Time people got realistic.0 -
So, just how much info have you gotten, from this elected board? Those 'lunches and handshakes' have gotten us really well placed among all those relocation attempts.
From what i hear, Innes' appointment was about as popular among the board as a United Airlines flight to Pyongyang.
For a man who constantly derides others you think are friendly with board members, how would you know that Innes's appointment is unpopular with board members?
Innes has been co-opted on to the board by a majority vote of board members, he was then made Chair by a majority vote of board members. At the AGM he will have to be ratified by a majority of owners. If they are unhappy then board members will have had 3 chances to vote against his appointment by the end of the next AGM.
Be honest. You just made that up didn't you?0 -
I was in the Clyde View Match day programme for the Annan Game! And I got My Programme Autographed By The New Clyde Chairman Norrie Innes! Ps: I also got an award for all the work I've doing helping with The Carbon Clyde Project!
Well done. Keep up the good work!0 -
If he wants to succeed then he has to take the fans along with him , openness and transparency , something that we haven't had for a long while now.
You are laying out the ground for him to fail already.
He will be bound by the same commercial confidentiality as any other previous chair. He will be subject to the same online rumour mill.
I can see it now. Innes announces we are in discussions with GCC for a bit of land. Thistle then appear and want the same piece of land to build their new training ground or worse still try and get us to share with them. Glasgow Warriors will want land, Glasgow City will want land.
These things come about over lunches and by shaking hands with the right people. There will be setbacks and there will be problems to over come. Targets and deadlines will be missed. Doing it in the public eye will not make it easier. I don't want weekly, monthly or quarterly updates on what they have been doing. I just want them to get on with the job.
The guy has an extensive CV and is clearly qualified to deliver. If any posters on here think they match his experience and skills then get them involved. I'm happy to leave him to it. I'll judge him on of he manages it not how much info he gives me. I don't need to know the ins and outs because I'll elect board members to do that for me. I'm a shareholder in a few large companies, I don't scrutinise every decision and transaction. People are employed to do that on my behalf.
The timelines make it clear that the current board will have been involved in identifying potential sites and it was the current board who brought in Innes. I don't see what good it would do to start "clearing out" the very people he signed up to work with. Hopefully he can add to skills that are already there.0 -
Bit off topic but I've been moving house and just discovered my ticket from the Clyde 2 - 1 Celtic game and noticed we paid £20 for that match.
That was 11 years ago and so £20 seems steep and it's obvious the Clyde board back then were cashing in on the expected big gate.
Obviously for the end result I would have paid any amount but it got me thinking, would the club get away with charging such a high price these days?
I think that in the modern age of social media a club hiking the prices so much like we obviously did back then would be the subject of much criticism and boycott threats from away fans and our own supporters. Fans probably complained back then but with less mediums to have their voice heard then it probably fell on deaf ears.0 -
#thriving
As unquestionably the largest club of the four, and removing your own neo-Nat pity party apologisms and 'wee team' syndrome, don't you think Arbroath ought to be a lot more ambitious and succesful than the other three? Since four leagues was introduced, you're the only ones to have had more than a season at a time upstairs, whilst Alloa and Cowden enjoyed several.
Much as i know Clyde supporters now hate talking about the past, and appear to be brainwashed into thinking being good for eight years is something to be ashamed of, there's absolutely no reason for Arbroath not to even consider that locally, a down-on-their-luck United, or bang-average Dundee and Saints, could be within reach competitively, when you see that of the top two divisions, we ourselves have dished out a fair few tankings of most of the teams outwith the established big five/six. Indeed, Saints could be the only team in the Prem next year in a four-area zone (Angus, Tay, Central & Fife), representing sixteen teams.....a whopping 38% of senior clubs in the country.
#thriving
The Arbroath Thread for this pish.0 -
Jim Chapman having a laugh and taking a few photos with the chairmen? And a director? New manager if we stay up?
That's the Reverend John McKinnon who is Chairman of the Clyde Community Foundation and Club Chaplain alongside Norrie Innes.
Unless we are now consulting God on new management teams then I think you are jumping to the wrong conclusions. Although given our recent history of appointing managers we could do with some divine intervention.0 -
Instead of signing Goodwillie they should have spent the money on getting an experienced manager in months ago
Considering he has signed on amateur terms I doubt they are spending any money. That would be against the rules.
An experienced manager should have been brought in but it's obviously not because of Goodwillie taking the wages instead.
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The Clyde FC 2018-19 Thread
in Scottish League 2 General Chatter
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f**k me.
Why did he take that interview at this time?