Glenmavis Diamond
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1 hour ago, Moon said:
Slight hyperbole there mate.
I've been on record as saying that we were so bad that we can't get too upset about anyone going as we really need to improve.
But I kinda expected the poorer guys to go first. O'Neil, Wilkie, Gallagher would not have been my first three picks to go
I think some of the poorer guys you’re referring to may still be under contract. Hopefully we’ll be working on cutting some of them loose, but that’s not as easy as parting company with people whose contracts have naturally expired.
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1 hour ago, Trust Airdrie said:
Chasing away young raw talent is the Airdrie way right now under this board.He was offered next to nothing to stay,the laddie deserved more.We have a tough league again to try and get out of,so let's hope and pray this 'hybrid ' this works.Also heard Hutts has been offered a better deal away from us,if I was the board I'd be busting a gut to keep him.
Considering the board, in its current state, has barely been in place that long, I disagree that ‘chasing away young raw talent’ is the ‘Airdrie way’.
They need to be given a chance to change things and that always starts with players leaving before being replaced.
Im not gutted with any of the names that have gone. O’Neill was decent but who is to say we can’t do better?
Mill make my judgement in the playing squad once some time has past and we can see it taking shape.
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2 hours ago, Jack Reed said:
It doesn't take long to forget the shit season we have had ,we will have to sign a good few quality players if we are going to do a job like Arbroath did,.who will concern us ,with the team we have at present them all .
Then it’s a good job the board and manager have signalled a mass clear out then eh? Everyone connected with the club knows this season was not good enough. For the first time in a long time I am confident that, in Murray and Millar, we have the right people with good experience and connections to bring in players good enough to challenge next season.
Plus the hybrid model means we won’t rule out either full or part time players if they fit the criteria, whatever that may be.
Wotherspoons ‘fulltime’ Was full of kids. Murray and Millar won’t do that, in my opinion.
Glad the season is over and I’m looking forward to seeing who we bring in over the next couple of months.
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38 minutes ago, Airdrie Minded said:
Cheers. Okay. I took it that it must be me as I’ve not seen any other updates/minutes anywhere. I’m all for debate/discussion though. I can see both sides of whether we should still be concerned about stuff. Not sure everyone has that opinion and I know some are just fed up with it all. I still find it of interest. Things like the shares not being given over - this isn’t just about now, it’s a longer term thing. Same with questioning stability of finances for full time football. Look at Wotherspoon to what can happen there. Folk arguing about football camps are missing a wider point potentially.
A lot of my posts/input on here stems from what we were sold and what’s happened since. 10 guys all with an equal say and the best interests of the club at heart. I know of the guys who have gone but don’t know them personally. I don’t know of PH either btw. I don’t think he lives in the town and don’t believe he was a supporter. Don’t think he needs to be btw but the ones that have gone are the ones we saw and heard speak at the outset and are also the ones we view as being out and out supporters so that’s a worry for me. PH, DFC and the Trust were all very convincing that this was a new era with a set up that would prevent one person having complete control and how this was the best way forward etc. Blue sky thinking perhaps but that’s fact. That happened. We’ve moved away from it very quickly and despite numerous resignations from the Board the club didn’t feel the need to comment. That’s unusual. We have people now backing the Board without question (and that’s their prerogative and right) but that were strong believers in the consortium and backed the individuals that have now walked. Fair enough if it’s just a case of being battle weary and fed up however I’d just like some communication to explain things. That’s not tin foil hat thinking surely?
I see this Trust issue as the fall out of a power struggle. I don’t see how pushing an organisation away that contributes financially makes sense (FFIT club is £8k for instance - that’s a lot surely for us and is recent income - not sure that equates to a free meal ticket). If the club want more money as alluded to above then get back round the table and talk to them. Ask for it!
Both sides need to work together here, could a solution be:
1. Trust commit to £x going to club or Y amount of events over the course of a year where income generated is for club (part of that happens though already?)
2. Club gives Trust shares
3. Trust become involved in and/or part of this new community Trust
2 is likely needed, 3 was mentioned last night.
Some very valid points.
for what it’s worth, I don’t know any inside information about what’s going on but it’s clear some people do. I’ve read comments from people I know who have the clubs best interest at heart and seem to be showing support of the board and direction it’s looking to go. I take heart from that and liked the club statement about the hybrid plans for next season.
The shares issue needs clarified and sorted. That’s clearly one of a number of issues causing a rift between the Trust and the board. Those involved on both sides need to get the situation sorted and start working together. All I’ve heard/read is comments about the Trusts side of things. However I’m not going to condemn the club not making public statements about it as it risks becoming unprofessional so sometimes silence is best on such matters.
Do I personally think the fallout between trust and board will hugely impact attendance next season? No, as first off, the trust doesn’t represent all fans views and secondly if the club get the right team on the pitch and start winning games, people will go and watch.
The current feeling of being scunnered is not a new one caused by the current issues, it’s from years of having a shit product on the pitch.
I see Murray and Staurt Millar as the right people to change that next season.
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1 hour ago, Roger Thornhill said:
So what is the clubs long term future plan? What is the long term goal. What is PH's vision? Are you not interested in that?
Of course I am but what right do I really have to demand to know that information? Does every football club share their long term strategy with their fans? I doubt it.
Maybe im just easily pleased at knowing the plans for the next few seasons.
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1 hour ago, Roger Thornhill said:
Looks like PH doesn't think he needs the support of the Trust going forward. Which is well and good if things are going well next season - the team doing well, potential big gates from the likes of Falkirk or Thistle (if they go down ) BUT if things go tits up then that could be another matter. That's when PH might need the help of the Trust bigstyle. To potentially freeze them out at this time is risky unless he's sure that he has a sustainable model and finances in place to weather the storm of another shit season on the park and dwindling crowds. It looks like he's going to take that risk - based on some kind of business model that doesn't factor in the Trust and its funds. Now, if we are flying high in 8-10 months, the relationship between PH and the Trust will be well forgotten - because most football fans are a fickle as feck. If not, then this issue will be right at the forefront - especially if PH is looking for some kind of cash injection if we are languishing at the bottom of the league in front of 500 fans (I am sure his sustainable model will have factored this scenario in.....).
I hope PH knows what he's doing - ultimately he has a lot to lose. Stating the bloody obvious the stadium and the Club are intrinsically linked - no Club, no stadium. PH has nothing. Elton John aint going to appear every year as are away cup draws to the Old Firm.
It's now PH should be reaching out to us all - telling us of his vision for the club and how he is going to try and achieve it - asking everyone to "buy into it" - including the Trust. I am guessing an Airdrie surviving in the Championship - crowds 1000-2000 dependant on the opposition, more season tickets, higher admission fees. Fans happy, club happy, trust happy, PH happy. But I am just guessing - because this vision hasn't been communicated to us by PH or the club. So what about it PH?
Have the club not already done this by telling us about the hybrid plans for next year? Also now the new sponsorship deal?
What more do they have to say about future plans?
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3 new posters in a day, viewing different sides of the coin. Here’s hoping t leads to some productive come together of both parties and doesn’t make this forum the next location for mud slinging.
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37 minutes ago, Airdrie Minded said:
I gave a summary (after someone asked) and its bringing them out the woodwork it would seem. I wasn’t trying to be a smart arse or in the know (I’m not). I was playing back what I heard last night. Anyway, I’ll not bother next time.I appreciate you taking the time to post a summary, as many others will. What I would say though is, I didn’t read new poster Diamond Outsiders response as being aimed at you, as what you posted wasn’t your opinion but notes from the meeting.
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43 minutes ago, Rio 2 said:
Where are all these new posters coming from???
Dunno but here’s hoping they buy season tickets for next season. ;-)
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1 hour ago, Rio 2 said:
Wind your neck in smokie. If he was as good as you think he is, he wouldn't be playing for Arbroath!!!
.....and helping them to a promotion we can’t achieve......
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2 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said:
Clueless
Wallace is class. No just at scoring at holding the ball up and making things happen. His technique at times is superb. Very good L1 striker who has still scored double figures I'm sure even when he bizarrely fell in and out the team at the turn of the year. Bobby Linn takes the pens too.
No sure he'll be going to Airdrie mind youThis.
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4 hours ago, Rio 2 said:
My point caller, is that Wallace is a striker who is not a prolific scorer of goals, and we already have a few of them and as stated in my original post (which you didn't understand) we need a guy. who can stick the ball in the net regularly. Therefore a guy like Wallace would not add anything to the team
It seems more like you didn’t understand my original response.
You can have a great striker, but if nobody creates chances for him, gives him the ball, puts him through on goal, provides goal scoring opportunities, then he won’t score many goals will he?
This season we did not consistently create opportunities. Wallace clearly does not play as an out and out striker on his own, thus his value to the team and contribution to Arbroath being promoted was his ability to create goal scoring chances for others in the team. Which they took. Meaning they won more games than us.
I’d quite like someone like that in my team.
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11 minutes ago, Rio 2 said:
The Arbroath fan also stated that Wallaces all round game is better than McIntosh's (who, I believe is one of our strikers)
So what’s your point caller? He’s supposedly better than McIntosh and can set up goals. Why would you not want someone like that in the team?
Or are you saying strikers shouldn’t be setting up goals?
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47 minutes ago, Rio 2 said:
Which means a good midfielder! Or winger.
Or Andy Robertson!
So if, as an Arbroath fan stated above, Wallace is Arbroath’s leading assist maker, then why would that be a bad thing? They won the league and he set up more of their goals than anyone else in their team. Sounds just like what we need.
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45 minutes ago, Rio 2 said:
Don't need an assist maker!
We need a guy, who can stick the ball in the net, regularly.
..... who need people to set up chances for them.
We’ve hardly been good at creating a lot of chances this season.....
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Some talk of us being over budget. Fair enough; bad management by someone to agree to the signings.
However, what’s happened to the money from the Celtic cup game? Surely that easily offsets any supposed overspend?!?!
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Absolute garbage today. Total dross. Sideways, backwards, sat deep and allowed ourselves to get pressed deep in our own half early on, leading to their goal.
Second half, sideways, backwards, then our centrehalves being relied on to put the ball into the box. Woeful.
Gallagher sold us out today. Dreadful.
Sean McIntosh is not a wing back. Can’t beat a man to get a cross in. Then Stewart comes on. Can get space to cross, but cannot cross for sh1t.
Conroy, can pass a ball but is also not a wing back. It a defensive centre mid either as cannot tackle for sh1t.
Leighton McIntosh. Useless today. Didn’t win a header all day.
If Duffy doesn’t know how to stay inside at his age then he never will. Caught offside too often today.
Carrick is not a wing back either. Wasted our wide when we were crying for someone to be able to run at them on the few breaks we had.
Overall we were just far to slow today and generL passing was awful.
There’s a very evident lack of confidence throughout the squad.
Thank goodness we’re not away from home to top of the league next week, as that could result in a hammering.
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The Official Airdrieonians Thread - 2019/20 and beyond
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Haha, there’ll be plenty people waiting in the wings for that I’m sure.
Murray and Millar now have the responsibility of putting a team on the park capable of challenging for promotion, not just a play off spot. If they don’t, then of course, on their heads be it. However I am willing to give them the chance to do it. It’s going to be an interesting close-season.