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58 minutes ago, Jedi2 said:
10th hot take? 1st repeating Yousaf's own words, and then suggesting that he is looking to strike a deal with the Greens after he himself said that he was meeting with them and other leaders this weekend, and Slater saying that supporting him was a conversation that 'they may be able to have again'.
Direct quotations from politicians own mouths in 2 instances equals a hot take..quite
To be fair, the Greens abstaining is a damn sight more likely than @Jedi2's prediction that the SNP will declare UDI.
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1 hour ago, LovaMan Bairn said:
Greens going to abstain, so fun over!
Source?
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5 minutes ago, Jedi2 said:
the general public in Scotland won't see Yousaf's rhetoric as 'get the most seats and that's us Independent' after all
Only an absolute moron would interpret Humza's statements in that way.
Oh...
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1 minute ago, sophia said:
Question is...
Are you going to do the honourable thing and retract or persist and lose any shred of credibility that you may or may have had?
I see it going one of 2 ways:
1) "Don't back down, double down"
or
2) Jedi2 leaves the forum, then slithers back on as Jedi3 in the next month or so
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36 minutes ago, Jedi2 said:
34 minutes ago, Jedi2 said:So, @lichtgilphead a 'withdrawal agreement' being drawn up with a 'majority' of seats 'isnt' UDI...rather think it is, maybe need to stfu as well.
Do you even know what UDI means, @Jedi2
If you look up the article in the National that you've referenced above, you'll find the following quote from Humza
""So if we win that General Election, we will therefore seek that mandate to negotiate with the UK Government on how to put that proposition into democratic effect.”
That's not UDI.
Do you want to try again?
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2 minutes ago, itzdrk said:
Tories and Conservatives are happy to joint run councils and have the exact same views on nearly everything so you'd have to say it's not unlikely to happen for flag shagging purposes.
You might want to edit that...
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24 minutes ago, Jedi2 said:
Means that he has to get to the GE as leader shouting about a 1 seat majority is enough for UDI
Is this Jedi making stuff up again? I'm shocked!
My recollection was that Humza said that a majority would be taken as a mandate to open negotiations with Westminster. I don't recall any mention of UDI.
Whilst my preferred method of beginning negotiations would be through winning a referendum, it does the Yoon side no favours to continually tell lies about the position taken by Indy supporters.
So Jedi, how about you either provide a direct quote from Humza threatening UDI, or stfu?
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Currently watching Sky's Press Preview demonstrate their total ignorance of Scottish politics
Apparently, Humza replaced Nicola less than a year ago, so he will have the shortest tenure of any First Minister if he loses the VONC.
In addition, schools and public services in Scotland are doing "very poorly indeed" in comparison with England.
Finally, Nicola has just been in the news with "a scandal of her own", so Labour will be rubbing their hands.
Totally fact-free nonsense!
In reality, to date, Humza has already been in post since 29th March 2023. Henry Macleish only lasted 1 year 12 days.
Our public services & schools (whilst not being brilliant) are at least equivalent to England, and in many cases are better.
As far as I'm aware, even after all the recent Yoon speculation, only one male ex-member of the SNP has been charged with embezellment from the party. It's not Nicola, and nothing has as yet been proved.
So much for quality journalism!
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33 minutes ago, Lex said:
Eh? There’s 65 MSP’s between the Greens, Lib, Labour and Lib Dem’s, not 64? There’s 129 MSP’s, 64 votes is not enough.
I’m tempted for the bet now because you’ve obviously miscounted before you offered it, but I don’t know what the Greens will do, and certainly wouldn’t bet on weasel Harvie having the backbone to bring down the SNP government.
He’ll decide though, cause the Greens will vote as a block one way or another.I've not miscounted. As explained above, the presiding officer only votes in the event of a tie, and normally votes to keep the status quo, irrespective of her party affiliation.
64 each will mean that DRoss'sVONC will fall.
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13 minutes ago, Lex said:
Ash Regans one vote for Alba will be unlikely to matter.
If Ash Regan votes with the SNP, that's 64 votes. If everyone else votes against, that's also 64 votes. In these circumstances the Presiding Officer is supposed to vote to maintain the status quo.
I assume you're not taking up the offer of a charity bet then?
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1 hour ago, betting competition said:
I reckon in the next election, SNP supporters won't have the option to strategically vote for Greens or Alba, given that the SNP won't secure as many seats as they did in the previous election.
Yeah, tend to agree. Obviously, it will depend on the number of constituency seats the SNP are expected to win in each region. Will need to consider polling nearer the time whether I go for both votes SNP or whether I vote for someone else on list.
58 minutes ago, Lex said:The no confidence motion will be brought to the floor soon enough I’m sure, so we’ll soon see.
Are you willing to have a charity bet that the SNP lose a VONC before a specific date?
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1 hour ago, Lex said:
Be funny if it was Paddy Harvie who brought a motion of no confidence in the administration and brought the house down with him as he leaves government. There are more non SNP MSP's than SNP MSP's in the chamber after all, it would certainly pass if the Greens voted for it. Time to go to the polls.
Leaving aside the problems with calling an election early, this assumes that Ash Regan & all the Greens will vote to bring down a pro-indy Government.
If they do, Alba or the Greens won't be getting my list vote next time round. I'm sure that I'm not the only SNP voter that feels this way.
Why would Alba or the Greens want to cut off their noses to spite their faces in this way?
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46 minutes ago, SimonLichtie said:
a wee bit on our game v Bon Accord in 1996 on Friday
Is it the Sky footage with a weel kent face doing a solo version of The Northern Lights?
Please make it so, especially the moment when he realises he can't sing "sweet f*ck all" on TV
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Not quite as old as Cappilow, but Arbroath have been continuously at Gayfield since 1881.
The pitch was moved in 1925, but still overlaps the old pitch to an extent. The West goal was roughly where the players tunnel is now, and the North touchline was parallel with (and very close to) the wall opposite old Ladyloan School
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1 hour ago, alta-pete said:
It is but they do take an English precedent as worth following unless we have a serious divergence in legislation. On this I don’t think we do.
English precedent is 'persuasive', but it isn't slavishly followed like down south. I can remember a certain Sheriff in Dundee who used to say things like 'what next, a case from Zimbabwe?' when the prosecution quoted multiple English appeal cases
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3 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said:
Apologies if it's been mentioned before, but there was the story of the Man U player (can't remember which one) who used to milk his fellow players (MATRON!) on the way back from away games.
They would stop at a chippie, he'd collect cash from the rest of the players for their grub, go in to get the food, then pay by cheque, in the expectation that the shop owners would never cash it as it had the player's autograph on it.
Tight or clever? Both?
Nick Faldo used to always write cheques for his green fees for exactly the same reason.
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22 minutes ago, JS_FFC said:
I didn’t quite realise that the SNP were so close to an outright majority in the last election. Technically the opposition could win 65-63, but that would rely on the vote of Ash Regan who defected to Alba. I’m not sure they’d want to be seen to be letting Labour in through the back door.
Apologies - I had forgotten about Ash Regan's defection.
As you say however, I don't see her siding with Lab/Con/LD
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1 hour ago, JS_FFC said:
Binning off the Greens would surely open up the government to a no confidence vote which could force it to hold a snap election where the SNP would be expected to make fairly heavy losses and possibly lose the keys to Bute House?
Don't the SNP still hold 64 seats without the Greens?
If so, they can't lose a VONC as even if the Greens vote against them, Lab, Con LD & Greens can only muster 64 votes, resulting in a tie, and the Presiding Officer votes in favour of the status quo in the event of a tie.
Obviously, this assumes that the all SNP vote together, but I can't see any of them breaking ranks...
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Just now, Hiram Holliday said:
Upping the price of alcohol
The biggest component of the price of alcohol is duty & VAT. Aren;t these Westminster taxes?
3 minutes ago, Hiram Holliday said:stopping smoking
I believe that the plan to ban all citizens currently under 15 from ever buying tobacco products was initially announced by Rishi Sunak?
6 minutes ago, Hiram Holliday said:hate crimes
Do you think that promoting hate is a good thing?
9 minutes ago, Hiram Holliday said:NHS on its knees
Are you referring to England or to Wales here? Both perform worse than the Scottish NHS
10 minutes ago, Hiram Holliday said:drug problems
Isn't this policy area reserved to Westminster?
13 minutes ago, Hiram Holliday said:homelessness.
Isn't this a responsibility of Local Government? Is it significantly better in Councils run by Yoons?
16 minutes ago, Hiram Holliday said:
Flegs. Serious stuff.
Thanks for the inpurt Hiram, but I expect better trolling from P'n'B's pet Yoons. You must try harder.
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50 minutes ago, Hiram Holliday said:
You need to get out more…His name is often mispronounced.
By GB news? I'm sure you'll provide a link to prove your point.
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11 minutes ago, Hiram Holliday said:
Listen to what they call Hunt.
They called him "Jeremy Hunt" when he was mentioned.
Are you always this hopeless at answering questions?
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Happened to have GB News on this afternoon (don't ask why), and the male presenter referred to "Humza Useless" during a discussion of the proposed smacking ban in England.
Is it normal for a supposedly serious News programme to refer to politicians by derogatory nicknames?
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1 hour ago, 1320Lichtie said:
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-record/20141011/282265253673409
ETA - if anything summed up how much of a fud you are then it’s this. Maybe look into things before you go about firing insults at people
Telt
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2 minutes ago, die hard doonhamer said:
You can’t, according to the signs, but I’ve done it several times with no issue. You’d be unlucky to get a ticket for it, I think.
Fair enough. I've never risked it.
Always parked in one of the other park & rides and got the bus or train in if staying overnight in Edinburgh.
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The Arbroath Thread
in Scottish Championship General Chatter
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I could have sworn that Jim Mercer's goal came directly from the cross from Kevin Heenan on the right, and that there wasn't a soul within 5 or 6 metres of him.
First time I've seen that film - well done Simon.