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  1. I've spent approx 2 seconds on this but could it have anything to do with 700ml being divisible by both 25 and 35 (standard pub measures). next occurence would be 875ml.

    Afraid not, Casey.

    Standard pub measures are set by UK whilst the 70cl bottle size is standardised across EU.

    At time of metrication of spirit pub measures, the imperial measures in general use were (some exceptions could be found in all areas.....)

    1/6 gill (Aberdeenshire/England)

    1/5 gill (most of rest of Scotland)

    1/4 gill (some Glasgow pubs/Argyll)

    The UK govt. wanted to standardise on 25ml (slightly bigger than 1/6 gill, but a bit smaller than 1/5 gill). The pubs that sold quarter-gills were not impressed, and campaigned to have 35ml added.

    For a change, the UK govt. saw sense & allowed the bigger measure!

    But this has absolutely nothing to do with bottle sizes.

  2. Nice attempt at an explanation but it doesn't fit. The explanation is from a whisky site but whisky is sold in 70cl bottles, not 75cl. I'm sure some German whites are also in 70cl.

    Yeah, it's from a whisky site. The reason that I linked to it is because I remember reading the hard copy of the article when that edition of the Scotch Whisky Review first came out.

    If you read the full article, you will see the following explanation of 1) why wine bottles were originally used for whisky and 2) when whisky and wine bottle sizes diverged

    1) "Until about 1850 all wine and spirits bottles were made from ‘black’ glass—in fact it was very dark green or dark brown—owing to particles of iron in the sand used in their manufacture. Clear glass bottles and decanters were made, but they were taxed at eleven times the rate of black glass. Indeed, owing to the Glass Tax, bottles remained expensive, and continued to be hoarded and re-used until after 1845, when duty on glass was abolished. The earliest known ‘whisky bottles’ were re-used wine bottles. Even after the duty had been lifted and clear glass began to be used more, whisky makers continued to favour green glass bottles, often with glass seals on their shoulders. VAT 69 continues this style of bottle."

    2) In 1992 the standard [whisky] bottle size throughout the European Community was lowered to 70cl. The United States retains fluid ounces, with the ‘reputed quart’ remaining the standard bottle size (75cl). In Japan, both 75cl and 70cl bottles are acceptable.

    With regard to your claim re German whites in 70cl sizes, I can't recall ever seeing one. You'll need to provide some sort of proof to convince!

    The standard prescribed sizes for most wines include 50cl & 75cl, but there is an exemption for the Yellow wines “Côtes du Jura”, “Arbois”, “L'Étoile” and “Château-Chalon” which may be packed in 62cl quantities.

    See The Weights and Measures (Intoxicating Liquor) Order 1988 which implements Council Directive 88/316/EEC in the UK. Similar national implementing legislation will exist in Germany

  3. Why is wine sold in 750 ml bottles?

    It's the metric equivalent of the standard 1/6 gallon size that came into use when moulded bottles started being used in the 1820's

    See https://www.lfw.co.uk/whisky_review/SWR22/article22-4.html in Loch Fyne Whiskies' (sadly discontinued) "Scotch Whisky Review"

    William Younger’s examination of bottles from between 1660—1817 in the Ashmolean Museum showed the capacity of wine (and therefore whisky) bottles remained relatively constant at around 30 Fl.Oz during this period, in spite of bottles being free-blown.

    With the introduction of moulded bottles in the 1820s it became much easier to standardise capacity, and this was soon fixed at 26 2/3 Fl.Oz (or 1/6th of a gallon).

    About 1900 this capacity was defined by law for a standard bottle—along with 40 Fl.Oz (equal to an Imperial quart – 2 pints), 13 1/3 Fl.Oz (half bottle), 6 2/3 Fl.Oz (quarter bottle), 3 4/5 Fl. Oz (miniature). Brand owners were not required to print the capacity on the label until after the Second World War, however, although some did.

    Since January 1980 capacities have been expressed metrically on bottle labels, in line with the Système International d’Unités, when 26 2/3 Fl.Oz became 75 cl, half bottles 37.5cl, quarter bottles 18.75cl and miniatures 5cl.

  4. I would think so, they don't really have a border control on the roads, do they?

    There's an express bus that goes from Belfast City Centre to Dublin City Centre via Dublin Airport. It's obviously meant for people travelling to the airport, but it's a cheap way to get from Belfast/Dublin. There's no border check.

  5. I'm looking for the name of a film i saw years ago. Basically, it's set in the future, and people are able to pay to be transported back to the past to be at the scene of famous disasters; The Titanic, train crashes, bombings etc.

    I don't really remember much more, other than a scene in which a tourist is on a train that's about to crash, flipping a coin that will take him back to the present. Someone steals the coin and he dies in the crash.

    I really, really hope it was called "Stuart Dickson goes on a very expensive overpriced holiday"

  6. Grrr!!! This fucking backward country does it again!!! :angry:

    The first decent tune I've heard this year - played wall to wall in the US for the last three weeks was

    . I come home planning to order it on Amazon or on iTunes only to discover that once again it's not available and you don't appear to be able to download it legally. I've done the search on the internet for news of when it might be getting released here and I can't find a thing on it.

    Anyone know where I can purchase it?

    Why not call the "Tunes you can't legally purchase at this moment in the crappy, backward UK " call centre? I'm sure they'll have the release date ready to hand.

    I believe that this call centre is run as a joint venture between Sky TV & Comet, so you should have no problems.

  7. 339 square metres is approximately half the size of the penalty box on a football pitch.

    So, if you cut the penalty box in two by drawing a line from the centre of the goal-line theough the penalty spot, to make an area 18 yards by 22 yards, that would be the floor area of your proposed shop.

    That's quite a big area.........

  8. Ok, I was wondering if there was a place where you could sit and read all the laws. How are people meant to know what all the laws are then? I think they should all be written somewhere in a book, no matter how big or small it is.

    Unfortunately, Stuart, if it was as simple as you suggest, there wouldn't be any rich legal professionals.

    The cynical amongst us might suggest that it was in the legal profession's interest to make law as ambiguous and complex as possible.

    In addition, as Ad Lib suggests, there is a huge body of law. From memory, the paper version of Butterworths Law of Food & Drugs used to run to 7 volumes, all around 12 centimetres (5 inches) thick, The law of food and drugs is one tiny area of the law as a whole.

  9. "One wee handbook or something" doesn't infer "huge f**k off internet database with millions of separate documents".

    Just saying likes.

    Are you seriously suggesting that the OP thought that "all the laws in Britain" would really fit into "one wee handbook"?

    Or, perhaps, do you think that he was just being flippant as to the potential size of the volume required?

    Just asking, like.

  10. Statutes are also not always terribly useful on their own, as they typically rely on extensive litigation arguing about what they actually mean.

    LexisNexis/Westlaw are certainly comprehensive, but they're hardly a condensed "this is the law, end of".

    The original question was "see all the laws in Britain, are they written down somewhere for people to consult, like all in the one wee handbook or something?" No-one asked "Is there a condensed 'this is the law, end of' book available?"

    Practically all UK law, caselaw, commentary and other information required is available through Butterworths. That's why it's used by legal professional people to consult, all in one wee website (or something).

  11. Anyway, see all the laws in Britain, are they written down somewhere for people to consult, like all in the one wee handbook or something?

    Statute law is available at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/

    This will not be of any use for common law, or for decisions of the various courts etc, or for reference works like the Stair Memorial encycopedia.

    The closest that you will probably get to one source is Butterworths Lexis Nexis, who provide a online subsciption based service on most areas of UK law. http://www.lexisnexis.co.uk/our-solutions/

    They are not cheap though...........

  12. Whats a classier alternative to Morgan's Spiced? It's not something I drink very often. But I've been asked along to a mate's maws 50th birthday, I asked what her favourite tipple is and was told Morgan's Spiced.

    Doesn't strike me as a good booze gift, same way if she drank voddy I wouldn't turn up with Smirnoff, I'd spent a few bob extra and get something a bit more fancy.

    Any suggestions?

    Cadenheads in Campbeltown (& Edinburgh) do a good selection of imported rums. Their online shop is at the following links

    http://argyll.wmcadenhead.com/category/79/rum.html (Campbeltown)

    http://edinburgh.wmcadenhead.com/category/79/rum.html (Edinburgh)

    If you can actually get to the Campbeltown shop, they'll fill & personalise a bottle for you. I don't know whether they do the same in Edinburgh.

  13. Out of interest, where did people watch the game?

    I was in New York, at Flushing Meadows, watching it live. In the best seats, with Annabel Croft sitting beside me with a bottle of chilled champagne. I can confirm that she really is as dirty as has been speculated elsewhere on P'n'B.

    My private jet has just got me home. It was quick because of the time difference between here and New York.

    Realistically, I watched it on Sky like everyone else.

    Sheesh! Hasn't the quality of debate on P'n'B has gone down again. :D:D:D

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