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    The General Ross County Chat Thread

    in Scottish Premiership General Chatter

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    So... we’re not in a good way, that’s pretty clear. I don’t know how much freedom Yogi’s going to be getting in January...? I also have to say that, for various reasons, I haven’t seen all that many games this season. So I’m wondering if folks wouldn’t mind sharing their thoughts on the current squad? If it was up to you, who would you keep, who would you chuck and who’s a maybe?

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    Ross County's Next Permanent Manager

    in Scottish Premiership General Chatter

    Posted · Edited by The Great Stagsby

    On 20/12/2020 at 23:37, Loki said:

    McGregor managerial decisions:

    Cooper - Great appointment, went stale and eventually sacked

    Smith - absolutely disastrous, sacked on holiday LOL

    Robertson - disaster, walked out

    Scott Leitch - disaster, sacked as he relegated us

    Dick Campbell - did well but a disaster behind the scenes, sacked top of the league LOL

    Adams - great appointment, moved to Hibs as Assistant.

    McStay - disaster, sacked for being utter shite

    Calderwood - considered good only as the bar was so low with McStay, still didn't really achieve much despite a Challenge Cup win, short term contract.

    Adams II: The Glory Years - again great appointment but went stale and sacked.

    McIntyre: we won a league cup, but league form was like a yo yo, eventually sacked when we turned turgid.

    Coyle: disaster - sacked

    Fergie/Kettlewell - got us relegated but largely because of Coyle, won us the league, returned to Premier, slowly turned to shite when Jamie Lindsay went.  Fergie moved up stairs, Kettlewell sacked.

    McGregor going back to Adams is only because it's about the only good decision he has made as a chairman in terms of managerial appointments.

    The time period this summary spans coincides exactly with the time I have been following County. During that time we have gone from old 3rd division to 2 spells in the top flight, winning a few challenge cups (yeah, I know) and a League Cup along the way as well as making that Scottish Cup final. Probably not many other “diddies” have won as much as we have in that time. Adams may have been in charge for some of the best moments, but I personally wouldn’t ultimately summarise every managerial appointment other than him as disastrous, or sentiments to that effect.

    ETA that’s not to say for a second that some of them haven’t definitely been disasters! Just to say that, during these past 20+ years we have had an awful lot of success, under various Roy MacGregor-appointed managers.

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    The General Ross County Chat Thread

    in Scottish Premiership General Chatter

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Loki said:

    Tommy Wright would be an absolute astounding appointment.  For Holt I would give Kettlewell time, certainly the next two home games and if no improvement - get Holt.   Yogi can go directly in the bin.  Kudos for three cheap shouts, I concede that point.  As long as you concede Yogi goes straight in the bin.  I can't believe Tommy Wright doesn't have a job.

    You could get Marcelo Bielsa in and he isn't turning Laidlaw and Donaldson into players. that don't make mistakes.  Our recruitment of players is shocking compared to other clubs with lower or similar budgets.  We paid fees last January for Donaldson and Shaw, in Shaw's case a reputed six figure sum has reaped four goals.   Donaldson has gifted countless goals and given away six penalties.  I certainly think we lack defensive organisation, but I do not know if this is because we have shite players or bad management.   You think it's the management, but I think it is the shite players.  But by continually playing these guys when there are better options, I agree with you there.  

    The last data I had seen had us 8th, and we had scored about 50% of the goals we should have expected.  Our expected goals against was 15 worse off.  There is certainly a lot of scope for improvement in the team.

    I am obviously in the minority when I think Stewart and McKay will come good, and that class doesn't go away.  Naismith's delivery is going to greatly help us.  The next two home games are massive and we need four points minimum.

    Anyway I am tapping out now.

    I think you and I share the same thinking on a lot more than might be obvious. I certainly agree that Stewart and MacKay are class (and that doesn’t go away), but whatever the reason it’s very clearly not happening for us so far this season. Something needs to change - but what? I also agree regarding mistakes and gifts, an apparent lack of discipline and composure in various areas of the pitch is costing us over and over again - something needs to change - but what?

    At this point I’d certainly give Kettlewell the Hamilton game. Win that, he probably gets a bit longer. Lose it... well then it might (rightly or wrongly) come down to whether we progress in the cup against Livi.

    For me it boils down to this: SOMETHING has to change, or we’re doomed. If our performances and results change (starting against Hamilton) under Kettlewell, I will be the first to rejoice. If they don’t, the question really is how long can Roy wait for something to change, before changing something himself?

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    The General Ross County Chat Thread

    in Scottish Premiership General Chatter

    Posted · Edited by The Great Stagsby

    2 hours ago, Loki said:

    Hamilton are worse than us and will finish below us.

    When we’re as bad as we are, can we really afford to put all our eggs in the “there’s another team (or two) about who are (possibly) worse than us, therefor we’ll be fine” basket? In the last 3 weeks Hamilton have drawn with Aberdeen and beaten Killie, both of whom comfortably beat us in that same period of time - one of them doing so with 10 men for 82 minutes.

     

    2 hours ago, Loki said:

    Even if a new manager came in what would change?  He can't take any new players in.

    Team selection? Formation? Tactics? Game management? Understanding? Confidence? Motivation? Nothing guaranteed but these are surely some possibilities?

    If all managers are equal and the only thing that matters is what players you have available, what’s the point in managers in the first place?

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    The General Ross County Chat Thread

    in Scottish Premiership General Chatter

    Posted · Edited by The Great Stagsby

    16 minutes ago, Loki said:

    Yes.  

    Fair enough.

    16 minutes ago, Loki said:

    If we arbitrarily choose 17 matches instead of 15...

    ...then we’re still bottom of the league, having played a game more than some of the teams directly above us, conceding  1.9 and scoring 0.6 goals per game and having picked up just 7 points from our last 15.

     

    ETA As previously though, I hope you’re right!

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    The General Ross County Chat Thread

    in Scottish Premiership General Chatter

    Posted

    Current bottom six teams' form over their last 15 games respectively:

     

    Livi             18pts

    Killie            17pts

    St J              16pts

    St Mirren   12 pts

    Hamilton    14pts

    County          7pts

    Naturally some anomalies in there with Covid punishments / bonuses / however you want to look at them, but the way things are going we are finishing WAY behind everyone if there isn't a shake-up of some kind.

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    The General Ross County Chat Thread

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    On 08/10/2020 at 09:40, Loki said:

    Ross Stewart and Billy McKay will get us enough goals to stay up.

    2 months and seven league games on, I'm genuinely interested to know if at this point you still stand by this? There's still obviously time - and the unanswerable question of how many goals would actually be required to keep us up! - but neither have scored in the league in this time (we've only scored 3 goals in total in the seven games). I'm not in a position to say how many goal scoring chances they've had. Billy's obviously not played so many minutes, and Shaw started scoring before getting crocked.

    Is the rest of the team just not up to it?

    Is it the management's fault?

    Things are looking pretty dire.

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    Local team / glory hunting, etc. and so on

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    9 hours ago, TheScarf said:

    Not that I'm aware of, I know a lot of The Caley fans and I don't have knowledge of any of them supporting another Scottish club.  There's 2 lads in my office alone who support County and Rangers.  There will be a lot more too.  Just seems rather bizarre.

    Interesting. I can only comment based on my own experience, but off the top of my head I can only think of one County fan I personally know who also supports Rangers, and one ICT fan who also supports Rangers. (None who support Celtic). Also worth noting I’m friends with a lot more County fans than ICT, so in the world through my eyes a higher ratio of ICT fans also support OF than County ones (but thankfully a fairly low number over all).

    My “ICT & Rangers fan” mate is a real odd case - a perfectly reasonable and rounded kind of guy more generally, he clearly supports each team with just as much passion as the other, and always has (which I just can’t get my head round). However, whilst he’s more than happy to exchange banter / abuse with me re. the Highland rivalry, he avoids any Rangers chat at all with me, almost unwilling to openly admit to me his very obvious and well known support for them. But get him in a room with a couple of other Rangers fans I know (one from Lewis, the other from Thurso, 🙄) and it’s clear for all the world to see.

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    Local team / glory hunting, etc. and so on

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    Posted

    Somebody suggested this needs its own thread, and given how much attention the topic has been taking away from the joy of purely and simply laughing at Celtic, I feel they are probably correct.

    For what my own thoughts on it are worth: There’s always been a big part of me that has cringed at folks up here in the Highlands who support either of the Old Firm, but I also recognise everyone has a different story of how they end up behind one team or another. I still remember at primary school I really wasn’t interested in football, but almost all my mates used to ask “Who do you support, Celtic or Rangers?” (Rarely were other options presented). I usually responded with “Which one do you support? ...Yeah, me too.”

    Only when I went to secondary school, and a mate said “You should come along to the (County) game this weekend.”, did I do just that - and I’ve passionately followed them ever since.

    I took a year out between school and Aberdeen uni, working down near Stirling and ended up alongside 3 Aberdeen fans - 2 from Tillicoultry, the third I don’t recall where from, but also not Aberdeen! I don’t know the full story of how they ended up supporting Aberdeen, but part of it I believe was in protest at all things Old Firm (but possibly still with the hope of at least a little bit of glory...?) ANYWAY, influenced by those guys’ passion and knowing I was going to spend a few years in Aberdeen, plus with County still playing in the lower leagues, I adopted Aberdeen as “my premier league team” around then. That was fun, but it wasn’t forever and I couldn’t care less these days (other than that I would welcome anyone but the Old Firm winning the league some time).

    My mum being from Leicester and my cousins living there, I’ve always had a soft spot for them and loved them winning the league, but again it doesn’t bother me too much either way how they do. Finally I studied near Bournemouth for a while, and kind of adopted them while I was in the area as well. (Oh, the shock of seeing DEREK HOLMES again! 😱 )

    Anyway that’s a bit of my story. And we all have one. Some (quite possibly most) of the “Not from Glasgow but support *OF*” are without doubt glory hunters, but probably not all.

    Finally I believe the “Who my dad supports” factor can be huge, and whilst there’s likely at least one glory hunter somewhere in the family tree, can a 5-year old from Tain who “picks” Celtic because his dad is mad for them and he’s never been presented with any other options really be accused of being a glory hunter?

    Discuss / be disgusted.

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    Celtic v Ross County

    in Domestic Cup Football

    Posted

    Iain Vigurs to be sent off just before kick-off. Laidlaw to take his eye off the ball, allowing a pass-back from the halfway line to trundle in for 1-0 after about 17 seconds.

    County to do “really well”, all things considered, having a few lovely passages of play, creating 3 glorious chances (at points in the game where a goal would have got them right back in it) but ultimately going on to lose 5-0 as stated above. (2-0 half time).

    Enjoy!

     

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