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So none then as I said. Its an insult to people with real physical illnesses to compare the two.

Which serious illnesses ddoes depression cause?

No it hasn't that's literally impossible. Lifestyle issues associated with it do, as I said in my first post, depression itself cannot possibly make you seriously physically ill.

It does but never in the history of the world has it made someone seriously physically ill. That's my point.

No it can't, it can have superficial affects largely related to lifestyle. I've been depressed more than half my life you're not going to be educating me here. All you have done is underlined my point, you can't get really seriously ill from depression, and if you are really seriously ill it puts your depression into context. Or if you think you are as in my case. Edit to add - really seriously ill physically, you are obviously ill mentally if you are depressed. And to suggest the two are related is an insult to people who really are very ill physically.

They do but in a superficial way. Your body isn't actually ill, like if you had cancer or were disabled. You can fix your head or learn to live with it, you can't do that with physical ailments or illnesses that are serious. I basically had a health scare, turned out I was fine, but it made me realise all this things I had been worrying about and wrestling with all my life didn't matter in the slightest, only my health did. So I have been off everything since then,didn't need them anymore.

It totally makes sense to me too. What about a nice cup of tea then?

I've been depressed since I was about 15, maybe longer. Perhaps that's always been the case, I've always had anxiety anyway. I'm in my mid 30's now. But what I would like to say to everyone, and I really have been to the bottom and exist not far from that all the time, so I get it. It used to really piss me off people who haven't been properly depressed not understanding how devastating it is and how it affects everything. But anyway what I would like to say is, I manage it okay now and am completely used to it and don't expect it to ever change, but what I would like people on here to understand is it doesn't matter. It really doesn't, nothing matters at all except one thing, and realising that made me a million times better. It's only your health. Everything else is gravy if you're healthy. Even if its shit and feels terrible its fine. If you're healthy you're so lucky you have what millions of people including millionaires would kill for and spend all day dreaming of. I don't know if that sounds as profound as it does to me but its everything. My grandad used to say if you have your health you're a millionaire. Listen to old people theey have wisdom. Your health is all that matters anything else can be fixed or lived with. He also said you can get used to anything except hanging. Which is kind of the same. I was on 40mg of citalopram for 8 years I really do get it, but take nothing now since I realised that. I hope somebody gets something from that.

The drug war could never work. As long as there is money to be made selling drugs people will sell them. And as long as drugs get you fucked up people will take them. Never ending cycle.

One day people will look back on current laws like we do on prohibition in the U.S. in the 1920's.

Lets be honest you vote Tory so are not in a position to be laughing at anyone.

Did he not see that thing on TV last week? The Thanet guy was in the NF.