RossDee01

Now that i've come on here and had a rant about value for money etc. we're now guaranteed a tactical masterclass from Hartley on Sunday and a convincing victory against the ****. I'll take it.

He'll just pocket the money

f**k me you're responding to posts you're not even reading[emoji23] I said we're a selling club and i don't know why they would say we aren't. Of course we're always going to be a selling club. My problem was with them being so naive. If you remember it was you that replied to me. So maybe take your own advice, if you don't want to talk to me, don't.

How the f**k is that a belter? Aye because those prices reflect the standard of football. We probably wouldn't even lose money on gates, all i'm saying is that if we did it would be made up elsewhere. I'm yet to see where the lack of money we got for Hemmings and Stewart is to be made up, cause it's not on the fucking pitch that's for sure.

Surely then you'd agree that by cutting prices (especially this season with the debacle across the road) we could have had significantly larger crowds. Instead our crowds are falling. We maybe wouldn't make quite as much money on the gates but we'd still be close. Plus i'm sure performances on the pitch would be slightly better. Top 6 is worth a good amount of money compared to the bottom 6. It's not as if I want the Americans out, I just want some things to change and reflect who we are as a club.

You're yet to tell me what you disagree with, all you've done is thrown around insults. You've clearly not read through all of my posts. I go because I love Dundee and i've already said i'm a mug for paying that to watch us.

You're telling me £25 is fair value for money?

You're a troll of the highest order.

My problem with the owners is the prices they charge and the constant backing they give Hartley in signing players. Like you say, they're naive. If anyone thinks they really care about how Dundee play on the pitch then you're wrong. Unlike us they're not fans, they're businessmen out looking to make a profit, and we're the mugs that are over charged to watch shite turgid football. I'm not going to lie, they're much better than owners we've had in the past. I just can't see us progressing too much under their control. Prices HAVE to be slashed otherwise we have to completely transform into a team who is capable of playing football. I paid less to watch Liverpool in the premier league in January ffs.

You could have just said my name[emoji23] But anyway, I want what's best for the club, and we are by no means an average side in this league. If you're happy paying the prices you see to watch the football you watch then fire on, but i'm not.

I have absolutely no problem with us selling players, and of course that's what i expect us to do. The problem I have is when owners blatantly lie by telling us we're not a selling club when of course we are. That to me shows ignorance and arrogance, and for the fees we're getting for these players makes us look like complete pushovers at the same time. A for my comment regarding Hartley, I want to love Hartley, I really do. I just can't anymore. We have a team of players on 3 year contracts who just aren't up to the standard. We also gave James McPake a deal before Gadzhalov so don't even get me started on that one. His stubbornness is getting us nowhere. He is convinced that his style will work and although it seems to be clear to everyone else that it isn't working, he doesn't seem like he's ever going to change. He's consistently playing formations which don't suit the players we have and is constantly playing players in positions they are not familiar with. I don't understand why people are happy. I can't think of any other business where a manager is given goals (win a cup in Hartleys case) yet fails miserably year after year and STILL gets full backing. Our cup performances have been shambolic recently and if anyone suggests otherwise they need a serious head shake. For the money we pay we deserve better. I pay my money week in week out home and away, and it's getting close to the stage where enough is enough. We're BY FAR the worst team I have seen this season and if we stay up it won't be by much. Smaller clubs (i.e. St Johnstone) are doing much better than us season after season so why should we accept the football we have to endure every week? We were outclassed by St Mirren for f**k sake.

Why do I not have full trust in the owners? For the exact reasons you have stated. We are a below average SPL club who play shite football yet we're still charged obscene amounts week in week out. They've spent over £1 million in a piece of land which we have no idea what for. I have no issue with us being a selling club, my issue is with the owners coming out last season saying that we're not then we lose our 2 best players the summer after. United will get more in add one for Andy Robertson than we got for Hemmings and Stewart together FFS. I would much rather have held onto Greg Stewart and lost him for free in the summer than get a minuscule fee for him leaving us with absolutely no creativity. You're right, they have out their trust in Hartley in the transfer market, far too much for my liking.

"We are not a selling club"[emoji28] Stewart, Hemmings and now Bain. Starting to really not trust these American owners, the fact that they never speak out is also worrying.

Finally a player with a bit of sense. Could have gone down south and probably got more money but he could quite easily have flipped down there and come to nothing. He's guaranteed a start every week at Aberdeen and the fans love him. Fantastic bit of business by Aberdeen but shows that Hayes has a bit of sense as well.

I think he was totally scapegoated in that game at County because the midfield of Ross and McGowan that day were an absolute shambles and made the 2 CH's look bad. Both of them were bullied for 90 minutes and failed to follow runners from midfield. We were on a hiding to nothing and there wasn't much the defence could do. I still think he'll have at least 1 good season left in him. His attitude since being out has been brilliant and won't give anything less than 100% when he's back.

Could see O'Hara playing in the middle of a back 5 but wouldn't risk him there this season in a back 4.

You seem upset so i'll let you off for the absolute shite you are talking.

You've managed one win against us in your last 5 attempts. This is how you got on last time.

Anyone else got the fucking fear for Saturday? League table not looking as comfortable for us now. If we don't win Saturday we could be in big big trouble. Last place i'd want us to go and get a result as well.

Pretty sure most of the wallopers that comment on the Dundee FC news page haven't been to a game all season. Most don't have a clue what they're talking about.

We should be looking for more than that for Bain anyway. If Gordon is worth 10 million Bain is worth at least 1 or 2.

Surely we could have found a club inn Scotland to send him to? That sounds like a crazy move

apparently Ojamma has joined until the end of the season

Any ideas who these could be?

In the paper this morning slamming the rest of the team. Looked fucking raging on Friday night as well