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No. But, playing 'well' against PSG is reason enough for me

I look forward to giving him plenty of verbals at the weekend...if he fancies diving heid first into the East Stand at Fir Park, I'd be mightily pleased by that

Lock them the f**k up until you come up with a better solution, is my answer. If there are people out there, telling folk they fancy children, they should most definitely be locked up, to protect said weans

What are the 'ethics' of this when a player is nearly out of contract...are we legally entitled to inform his current employer, or is it another 'unwritten rule' that we've trodden all over?

The whole thing is a joke...borderline farcical

No...but it gives it 'something' that the really grimmest of places in Scotland can't even muster...

I think wee Gauldy could be good for a Scotland cap, if he can manage to wrestle his way out of Richard Taits back pocket

A fitba team to be proud of and an obvious community spirit...

Just noticing this absolute waffle...nah only kidding, you make fair points and I know you are a very regular attender of fitba matches. All that you have said, I agree with...times have changed in terms of facilities and costs to football clubs, that however does nothing to legislate for the real terms costs for a family to attend a game of fitba, and in real terms the costs to the fan have gone through the roof, compared to standard inflation. I'm not sure what the answer is, maybe there isn't one.

Nit-picking? The price of a pint of lager is £3.60, the UK average for 2018. Taking £20 as the (very) least you'll pay on the gate to enter a Premier league match in Scotland. You can clearly see that the costs haven't risen at the same (or even a similar) rate for both. In the 1970s (apparently), you could watch a top division match for the cost of two pints. You can have almost 6 pints for the cheapest tickets these days...AND in my opinion the price of a pint is fucking ridiculous.

I've got two 'mate'...cannae drink and drive + heading into city centres in the car these days is a hassle I can do with it.

Transport links are essential...staying in a medium-sized town myself, there really isn't any need to go anywhere else for anything. You can get a meal, a drink, shops, supermarket etc etc...but being able to walk up to the station and head to Glasgow or Edinburgh for a better selection of restaurants, clubs or pubs is ideal... ...staying somewhere without good transport links would do my nut in.

Got to laugh at some of these nominations to be honest, Wishaw, East Kilbride, Cumbernauld, Auchinleck, Dalkieth, Hawick just some of the towns mentioned recently. Every single one of these places has 'at least' something going for it, while there are large tracts of areas with absolutely f**k all about them. The A8 corridor between Motherwell and Livingston, is stowed full of places that make Auchinleck look like a thriving metropolis...Blackridge, Caldercruix, Hartfuckinghill, Salsburgh, Allanton to name a few...worse than that corridor is the area to the South, where as the boy above says 'Rigside'...I've drove through this place umpteen times and never seen anything, bar a pub that looks like its shutdown and a roll shop that looks like it should be shut down, I've never seen anybody walking about, a fucking weird place...there are also a clump of villages within a reasonable distance of each other with nothing what-so-ever to offer the outside world and why anyone continues to stay in these places is fucking beyond me...Carnwath, Carstairs, Forth, Tarbrax, honestly these places are like the land that time forgot, and when time was forgetting, so was evolution. Backwards, backwards places full of folk with f**k all to do, and nowhere to go... ...so to those mentioning Wishy, and all the rest of the towns with at least a supermarket, a thriving fitba' team or a train station to get the f**k out of the place every now and again, go and take a day out to Forth, Carnwath or Rigside and live a wee bit.

One played for America and the other England...despite being raised in Motherwell to a Scottish mother and English father.

Of all the new builds since St Johnstone, none have really got to the point where I'd say...'lucky b*****ds, wish that was my clubs stadium'

Maybe he realises that hes just a run of the mill Scottish player, and he needs to seize the opportunities given to him. Seriously though, the move to Leeds, was enough to make him settled for life...if he was careful with it. I said elsewhere, that if I was in Turnbulls advisors shoes, I wouldn't be absolutely certain on what the best course of action was, I'm not sure how good the lad actually is for starters, he does some lovely stuff on the ball, and has turned into a bit of an athlete as well, but I've yet to see him really take a game by the baws and run it. Erwin on the other hand, I'd have been dragging him down to Elland Road by his writing hand, a good player at our level, but getting offered a contract like that had to be taken.

40, 60, 70 appearances for Motherwell before they departed for Celtic, Everton and Leicester. Turnbull is currently on 15, with 21 league games still to play this season...and hopefully a wee cup run. I see where you're going with this though, and I totally understand the point of, stay, learn and develop a wee while longer, but the opportunity might never come up again, for a whole host of reasons

The question was who has went onto better things leaving Motherwell at an early age...from a financial point of view, and I know it for a fact, Lee Erwin most certainly did. Why he thought leaving Killie for Iran was a good idea, is an other discussion.

How big does our main stand really need to be though? By rebuilding it, could we make it smaller, could we make it for hospitality and directors only? I don't know the answer to any of these things, I'm just thinking out loud. The selling of naming rights to the ground, to the new main stand could still be done at Fir Park. Could we sell the pitch at the back of the east stand, to a housing developer to help raise income, can we approach the local authority and allow them access to use the facilities in a new stand, if they participate in financing it. Accies seem to have a good relationship with SLC and other government bodies, why can't we with NLC? The East Stand, is what it is, I'd imagine it'll cost a bit here and there to upkeep, but I wouldn't imagine it'll be astronomical (apart from major works like re-roofing). As far as I'm concerned, leaving Fir Park should be the last resort, not first choice. Ravenscraig (and really thats the only alternative location in the vicinity), is a soulless, desolate, windy place, I'm surprised people are buying houses on it to be honest.

McClair, McFadden and McAllister were all 20 years old when they left us...Turnbull will be 20 in the Summer. From a financial point of view, Erwin most recently.

Surely its the main stand that costs us the most amount of cash? If so, is there a way around about that? A re-build similar to what Hearts have done on a smaller scale...I don't believe that moving away from Fir Park Street is the only long-term solution

It depends where that 'somewhere else' will be I suppose...his agent seems to be the driver in these contract talks, so he has maybe heard of a few whispers. If the boy is as talented as is believed to be and he has the option to go and earn a life changing amount of money then I can see why he'd be, at the very least, considering it. Lee Erwin seems to be an example of how not to do it on the messageboards, but its factually accurate to say that Erwin, by leaving Motherwell, more or less set himself up financially for life. Had Slane not been an utter fanny of a boy, and brought up by a fanny of a da', he had the possibility of being in the same boat. Ben Hall, was probably earning £500 a week at Fir Park, as soon as Brighton offered him a 3year deal at 5k a week, as a 19 year old? I can see why he took it. From what I can gather, Turnbull is a Motherwell fan through and through, from a family of Motherwell fans, but you've got to take that emotional attachment out of the equation and look at it objectively. Does he stay here, earning decent money for a kid his age, progress and learn more about his trade, potentially go down the Cadden route of limited progression, or worse risk injury, to then look back on it 10 years down the line and say, i wish I had taken that chance now...that chance to go and set himself up for life financially. I'm honestly not sure what I'd do, or what advice I'd give him

It'll still be 'out-of-town' even at that side of the development...the speed of the development itself is a worry too - while we should be looking to 'tap-in' to any new developments within a reasonable radius of our current address anyway. These new builds are generally, almost always (certainly at our level), totally shite as well... ...I totally get that the Clubs viewpoint is that Fir Park costs a lot to maintain, but as far as I can see the cutting of costs would be the only benefit. Maybe its only me, and maybe I'm a stuck in my ways traditionalist, but as someone that almost never bothered buying my season tickets this year, I reckon moving to a flat-pack stadium in the middle of a few housing developments would potentially be my tipping point.

The thought of moving the Club to Ravenscraig (or anywhere else, out of town for that matter), gives me the absolute fear

I wonder if Turnbulls agent is winning the 'sign or not to sign a new contract', argument