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TheProgressiveLiberal

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  1. Sen. Bob Menendez's corruption jury is deadlocked and the judge has ordered them back to deliberate longer. It's interesting that numerous jurors have admitted that they heard press reports on the case. The judge interviewed each juror individually and decided not to declare a mistrial. This corruption case involves accusations that Sen. Menendez has sex with underage prostitutes, though he's not officially charged with that crime.
  2. Celebrity attorney Gloria Allred is about to have a press conference with a new alleged accuser. Look, anybody who uses this argument marks themselves as someone who's never studied the most elementary basics of Christianity. It's fine to believe what you want, but you will never convince any Christian or anybody who's educated at the most basic level about Christianity to change their mind based on this line of reasoning. It's a topic that's dealt with extensively by the apostles in the New Testament. I was referring to the "buddy" part. The idea that marriage is for people with compatible social lives is our current concept of marriage, but I don't think it's a model found in the Bible. Not that there's anything wrong with our model, but it's a product of our time and place. I'd want to shoot myself if I had to spend too much time around 20 year old women, let alone 17 year olds. I was born in the 1980s. The last vestiges of an older social model still existed in some places for people born in the 1940s. The Bible doesn't say it's ok to f**k kids. There's just no prohibition of dating 16 year olds. None of the 16-18 year olds who have come forward so far say they did anything other than kiss. I was responding to the idea that he's a hypocrite for being a Christian and potentially dating late aged teenagers. There's no Christian teaching which would prevent that as long as it's legal activity. Could I get an official left wing interpretation of what choices 16 year olds are qualified to make? Voting on whether to break up a country: Ok. Medical procedures to switch genders on their word alone: Ok. Abortion without counseling: Ok. Any type of sexual activity / experimentation with people their own age: Ok. Kissing a man who's 15 years older: HORRIFYING. Do I have this right?
  3. The obvious difference is the law. There's nothing in the Bible that prohibits dating a 16 year old. In fact, the story the three 16-19 year olds told the Wash Post and Mr. Moore's subsequent life (as far as we know) match up perfectly with Biblical teaching. The modern idea of marriage as finding a buddy to have sex with is not found in the Bible.
  4. I'm personally taking a wait and see approach when it comes to Roy Moore. He's denying the allegations. One coworker from that time period has said it was common knowledge that Mr. Moore dated teenage girls, though there is obviously a difference between 16-19 and below 16. Breitbart is attempting to blow holes in the story. They have found social media posts from one of the other teenagers showing that she worked on Democrat campaigns and wants Trump impeached. The mother of the 14 year old accidently contradicted her daughters story by saying that the daughter did not have a phone in her bedroom. That's how the 14 year old said she was able to keep in contact with Mr. Moore.
  5. "Normal" is whatever people here are thinking of when they say they dislike Americans. How the hell would the child of an immigrant be more representative of "X" nationality, especially if they speak a different language or identify as part of a minority group, than someone with deep roots. You know exactly what I meant by "normal." Perhaps "average" would be more PC. Actually defending why multiculturalism is a superior system is respectable. Taking a post to pretend you don't understand what I'm saying so you can signal your superior virtue is not respectable.
  6. So if the government isn't doing exactly what you think they should be doing, you just throw your hands up and bitch instead of doing your small part to make things more along the lines of your personal morality? That's a really strange opinion to hold. I can see not wanting to give to a specific charity and being annoyed at social pressure to do so. To avoid all charity as a moral principle is something I can't wrap my head around.
  7. Never banned for racism. Used the "f" word in a joke. Used another term which I had no idea was even a gay slur (thought it meant effeminate men) in a joke later on.
  8. Hispanic isn't a classification when it comes to crime statistics for the federal government and most local governments. Most Hispanics are already considered white in those statistics. Lets make it the same for getting into college.
  9. On the census you can check: White, not of Hispanic origin. Black, not of Hispanic origin. etc. Hispanic origin of any race. Just get rid of that last one. It didn't exist on the census until the 70s. The point is that the children of immigrants should not feel it's beneficial to separate themselves out racially or ethnically from "normal" Americans. They should feel it's in their benefit to assimilate into our existing culture. Our multiculturalist government policies encourage racial fragmentation beyond what would happen naturally. I think government policies should be designed to decrease racial fragmentation beyond what would happen naturally.
  10. Wait, everyone here thinks its a great opinion that you shouldn't give to charity? Jesus Christ. Y'all sure are a giant lot of weirdos.
  11. 1. End chain immigration. Drastically reduce immigration. 2. Make it illegal to discriminate in the workplace against mono-lingual English speakers. Pass similar laws to those that Quebec has for French. 3. Ban affirmative action for any group other than the descendants of slaves or Native Americans who are below the median income. 4. Get rid of the Hispanic box on the census. Make them choose black, white, or Native American, as they did until the 70s. All done without throwing anybody out, herding anybody into ghettos, or taking away voting rights. Multiculturalism is a government policy. It can be reversed.
  12. Was only responding to the idea that I might be murdered. Much of the difference in the white murder rate between Britain and the US, which does exist but isn't that big by global standards, is because of how much more dangerous it is to be a criminal in the US vs the UK. Since I'm not a criminal, my likelihood of being murdered isn't that much different here than it would be there.
  13. Kid who was a few years older than me in my church taught elementary school on the south side of Chicago. Type of place where he would have been one of the first non-black people many of his students had ever met. Think there was some program to get your student loans forgiven if you taught in low income schools that he was taking advantage of. I didn't stay in touch with him, but once while visiting my parents I was talking to his mom. She told me that he was kind of shocked by the state of things. One of the things he thought was really weird is that a high percentage of his class wouldn't show up until a couple days into the school year. Their parents didn't keep track of when the school year was supposed to start and only realized when they started seeing buses around. I was wondering if that story made any sense, but I suppose high school kids would be responsible for getting themselves to school.
  14. Add in the number of people who are the children of immigrants to that number. Look at the change in voting demographics that's happened in the state over the past 40 years, and especially over the past 20 years. And I'm not forgetting the Yankee occupation of Northern Virginia with the explosive growth of the federal government as a factor. I saw Jerry Falwell Jr was saying that we should expand the District of Columbia to include the counties around. The reason the Founders created the federal district was that government employees shouldn't have a say in local Maryland politics. Maybe it could be done as part of a plan to give DC statehood. The end result politically would be a blue state of Columbia, Virginia would return to red, and Maryland would become purple. Or maybe RoVA can just declare independence from NoVA. I'm sure you all would support that. I think identity politics is natural, which is why multiculturalism should be avoided. I advocate identity politics for people who support traditional America as a way to shut off immigration and assimilate the newcomers if possible. Then politics outside of black vs white will return to normal and healthy democratic politics. It worked last time we got too many immigrants and I advocate trying it again.
  15. I'm not really sure the stories about the three girls 16-18 are that big a deal given the time and where he's from. The late 70s would have been right around the time that would have been becoming weird in a place like north Alabama I'd assume. Certainly borderline behavior under any cultural circumstances, but not way outside the lines I'd imagine. And that's especially true if he had a conservative Christian conception of dating and marriage. When I was growing up it wasn't unusual for my friends parents to have a mom that was 17 or 18 years older and a dad who was around 10 years older than that. In fact, my parents being both in their 30s when they had me as their first kid was way odder. I guess the Wash Post is trying to give context to the idea that he may have liked them young, but 14 is way different. I'm sure both the left and right media will be all over this. Hopefully we get any more information that has to come out before voting day. Anyways,
  16. So, buried in this article about Johnstown, PA is the fact that two coal mines reopened, one more is about to reopen, and the unemployment rate has dropped 1%. The owner of the biggest manufacturing plant is planning on a 30% jump in business next year. I learned that overdose deaths rose from 58 to 94 in the last year of Obama's Presidency. They are on pace for no increase this year. I'm not sure what this author thinks Trump voters were expecting. Our industry has been hollowing out for decades. Everybody knows that any potential reversal will take decades. Does he think that people in Johnstown thought steel mills were going to sprout up in the first 9 months of Trumps Presidency. No, things in their town are getting a little better under Trump, as opposed to the continued collapse they would have expected under Clinton. Of course people like him. It's not a cult. It's fucking rational behavior. They see that he's attempted to do what he campaigned on. They see that low level judges and Republican politicians who worked against him during the campaign have blocked him. Sure, people are probably disappointed that he hasn't turned out to be more skilled at getting his stuff through, but if one random judge anywhere in the country can hold up a watered down version of one of his signature policies then there's not much that can be done. This whole article was ridiculously out of touch with the people being interviewed.
  17. No it doesn't. I said a religion that "tells you to behave."
  18. All the points I made were thought out and logical. Handguns are just as dangerous as assault rifles in crowded and confined spaces. I suspect the murder rate has more to do with the amount of violent criminals in a society and the ability of a government justice system to function properly than the amount of guns. In fact, increasing guns in law abiding hands could potentially lower certain classes of murders. In general loads of the most violent countries have very low gun ownership rates and loads of the most peaceful countries have very high rates when you compare across the world. Don't think there's much of a correlation. If you look at the real statistics, as a white American who's not a violent criminal I'm not more likely to be murdered in the USA than in the UK.
  19. It's not like they convinced anybody they were right. They just imported a bunch of new voters, told them they'd look out for their ethnic interests, and won an election. It is what it is. It's the left wings strategy for being able to rule. It's not sustainable in the long run though. In 1970 1 in 100 Virginians was a foreigner. Today it's 1 in 8 or 1 in 9. The Virginia that existed in 1970 is under a foreign occupied government, the same if they'd been militarily conquered. As Breitbart put it: "A middle-aged person living in parts of Virginia today will have witnessed more demographic change in the span of his life than many societies have experienced in a millennia."
  20. Take out the Congressional special election in Utah, the NYC mayor race, and the NJ governor race. Virginia was a real test. The statewide Republican candidates underperformed the polls and other Republicans in recent years. It looks like the Republicans may hold on to the House of Delegates by a razor thin margin, but that's down from a near 2/3rds majority. The best that can be said for Trump is that he was not asked to campaign and Gillespie specifically avoided "Trump outlets" like Breitbart. The swamp / Wall St Republicans need to look at what changing demographics can do to the politics of a state like Virginia.
  21. I tend to think the ideal religion for a society tells you to behave, but also teaches negative consequences. Christianity, for example. Maybe we'd have less mass shootings if a higher % of our population was scared of hell as a consequence for murdering innocent people. Maybe I'm way off base. Just a thought.
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