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17 minutes ago, DumbartonTheSons said:
There’s been a number of personal insults here interspersed with some considered compassion, but I can’t get my head around, what would the best ‘happy medium’ be that we could try to achieve?
There is no happy medium to be achieved. The noise from the stand, drumming or otherwise, is there. There's no problem with what Wilf has done - it gives him uncomfortable symptoms so he's staying away. I think it was that some people think the drum should be banned that annoyed a number of us. I have a friend who doesn't go to gigs anymore as the sound worsens her tinnitus significantly. So she doesn't go anymore, the sensible thing to do. She doesn't ask the band or hall owner to drop the sound down to 60 dB so she's comfortable. This thread has turned into us v Wilf which was never the case. Posters had sympathy for Wilf - it was the people he spoke to in the Helensburgh co-op who said they weren't returning due to the "incessant f*****g noise" that other posters took umbrage with. As I said before, an excuse to stop attending a long standing arrangement is much easier to present if there is someone or something to blame.
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45 minutes ago, boagheidboab said:
Wilf, For different reasons , I find drumming at games really annoying. Just as at the cup final a guy next me had some sort of trumpet which I really wanted to turn into a suppository. Do you still play with the band?.. If so how do you deal with the drumming? It's not a big issue with me as I dont get to many games
What? Wilf who is agitated by the sound of drumming plays in a band? This thread is growing arms and legs.
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48 minutes ago, Howlin' Wilf said:
The drum is clearly audible in Crosslet Road on match days.
So is the sound of the fans, road traffic etc. Sound will travel a long distance if not interrupted on the way. The issue here seems to be loudness (essentially sound intensity) and that drum is most certainly not loud.
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39 minutes ago, Howlin' Wilf said:
The drum is clearly audible in Crosslet Road on match days.
The violence though wasn't tolerated or encouraged by the club. The comparison is spurious.
My estrangement and that of my daughter from the club is complete and permanent. That decision has been made much easier by the comments on here. One from a guy to whom I have been quite helpful to on a couple of occasions who thinks I'm being a "dick" . The ad hominem nature of the insults is disappointing but in the end, not surprising. I shouldn't have brought the issue up again.
Apologies.
No apology required. I, for one, very much enjoy these debates/banter and it's much better than the usual stuff about who we should sign and who plays better in what position.
#longlivedrumgate
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44 minutes ago, George Parr said:
Makes me uneasy to learn we’re losing (very) longstanding fans over a drum - particularly given the fragile state of the football club.
There has to be a compromise somehow that keeps everyone reasonably happy.
I first went to Boghead in 1979 and there was, at times, some serious violence, especially when Hearts turned up. So these guys weren't put off by seeing some guys getting seven shades of shit kicked out of them, but are now calling off because of a primary school kid hitting a not very loud drum?? There's plenty of bowling clubs around for these guys to enjoy their silence and the rest of us can get on with a, hopefully, noisy atmosphere with plenty of drumming.
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Just now, Sonsrock said:
Sorted
Maybe drumming in the 60s style of The Brian Jonestown Massacre would take the old guys back to their youth??
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9 minutes ago, Curler said:
Could they not move their seats. It’s not as if the stadium is full.
It's not even a loud drum and I sit half way along that side.
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9 minutes ago, BallochSonsFan said:
Stereolab at SWG.
Really disappointing. Absolutely no charm or warmth at all from the band. The set list was questionable, the infectious tracks were missing and the whole thing just felt a little cold and clinical.
I know they can do better. I've seen them do better. French Disko was the highlight of the set. They managed to strip out any trace of fuzzy warmth from Lo Boob Oscollator and that's a hell of a bad achievement.
Such a shame given how good a live band they were in their early days with their two chord belters. They went to shit when they went French jazz.
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Flowered Up - Weekender
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4 hours ago, pleslie99 said:
I wasnt going to wade into this debate but here I am. I think anyone who says they arnt attending due to a "bit if noise" follows the wrong sport. Football is loved across the world for the atmosphere created by fans, have the boys to stop supporting, singing and banging a drum because it upsets a few folk?
If its medical reasons then fair enough but being pissed off at a bit of noise borders on pathetic.
I am not for one moment denying the support that wilf or anyone else has given the club over the years. Anyone who gives up time, money or otherwise to help the club should be applauded, however there is a young group of fans coming through, they should also be applauded and encouraged.Indeed, and certainly not discouraged which I fear might happen. Hopefully they'll be back this season and don't go off following either of the old firm. I'm thinking of buying them another drum if they return.
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2 minutes ago, BallochSonsFan said:
I wouldn't be so quick to criticise.
Playing devils advocate here, loud noise like that can be particularly bad for people with certain health concerns. If it's something that would affect a person's health then it's absolutely understandable that they'd stop going to games. If it's down to some older fans simply not liking that type of very loud support? We've a big enough stand with plenty of empty seats so surely something can be done to accommodate?
Nobody wants to see kids discouraged from coming to games. Nobody wants to see long term fans walking away. There needs to be a happy medium somewhere, even if it means a bit of compromise on both sides, because regardless of the reasons for folk staying away? The club suffers.
I think the kids have done their bit to achieve the happy medium by taking their seats at the far end of the stand. And that drum is not loud, being a snare. A bass drum might have us all vibrating on our seats but that snare drum is not loud. Is the repetitive drum sound really so bad in a stand where there is pretty much constant shouting, hammering of the cladding at the back of the stand and, occasionally, cheering? I think it's a spurious excuse.
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The Who - I can see for miles
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30 minutes ago, BallochSonsFan said:
Would ear plugs help?
Might be a daft suggestion but as a regular gig goer I've seen more people in the crowd wearing ear plugs to soften the sounds they hear during a gig. For the staff working around the stage they're pretty much mandatory.
The club can't really afford to lose fans. If it's for something like the noise that the kids make at the far end then there must be a solution somehow because we're caught between a rock and a hard place. We're not getting enough kids through the door to replace the fans we're losing to ill health and old age. The kids make noise that some existing fans have concerns with. More existing fans stay away so we don't get the benefit from having more kids coming through the gate to hopefully become the regulars of the future.
I won't criticise anybody for their reasons for staying away but whatever the reason is, it's the club that loses out the most.
If the real reason these fans aren't renewing is because of the drum then that is pathetic beyond belief. My seat is approximately midway between the drum end and the centre line and it certainly isn't a loud drum at that distance. Maybe it's the repetition rather than the volume? However, I'm not even convinced the drum is the real reason for the lack of renewal - more likely an excuse to pin their reason on a supposed problem. I really don't think anyone without a sensitivity to repetitive noise would use that as an excuse. And what happens if those young fans read this thread and get the distinct impression they're not wanted? The risk is they go to Glasgow instead or give up on being a match- going fan. Those kids look around P7/S1 age which is the age where they are likely to be encouraged by old firm fans at secondary school to go to Glasgow with them instead. The last thing we need to be doing is having whiners giving them a helping hand. Interesting that when the video of the kids got around the country it was met with praise and admiration from a good number of other fans. As far as I am aware, the only criticism/whining came from the fans of their own club.
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1 hour ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:
What reason do the other 5 have for being so against a few children playing with a drum?
Just grumpy old men?Probably. There's a few grumps on this thread alone that aren't slow in whining about anything that doesn't suit their mood that day. The old buggers I often sit with in the bar before the match are a good example - very nice guys but they won't even give polite applause to whoever is performing before a match ( however, I do agree with them about Radio Clyde being played if a band isn't on). I can understand the guy with fibromyalgia being annoyed by the drum but what sort of fan ( old git or otherwise) decides not to renew because of kids playing a drum? What next? Fans not renewing because of the sound of the ref's whistle? Maybe the club should invest in noise cancellation headphones that old gits can hire for the duration of the match. Go the young ultras!
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2 hours ago, Sonsrock said:
Rick Parfitt’s birthday, the country comes to a halt in memory of the great man.Don't mention music - Boghead ranter and a few others will be going into full meltdown. Now you mention him, the story of how Rick Parfitt wrote The Mystery Song is the stuff of rock legend.
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Blue Cheer - Feathers from your tree
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My TV is in danger of getting panned in whenever Brian Cox is on. Even worse than Neil Oliver.
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The The - Soul mining
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T-Rex - Mad Donna
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AC/DC - Bonny
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The Beatles - Don't let me down
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The Fall - White Lightning
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Dr. Feelgood - Down at the doctor's
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7 minutes ago, Boostin' Kev said:
Didn't realise this was back on.
2 episodes into the new series. You'll get them both on channel 5 catch up.
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