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12 hours ago, Peadar BigDinnerO'Driscoll said:
Would drop Byrne (shite), Anderson (off form for a while now, be an option off the bench).
McGowan, Legz and Ashcroft back in when fit.
Give Cameron a go and new boy up front.
Last chances for Robertson, McGinn, McCowan. Fed up of these one good game in 5 boys.
Byrne and Anderson don't do anything for me. I've said enough on Anderson and it's clear to see that he doesn't offer much. McGowan, Robertson and Mulligan has to be the midfield at Raith. To be fair to Robertson in regards to your last comment, I don't think he's been given a chance. McPake and McKay were raving about him when he first came into the team, saying how he could play 40-50 games and then they dropped him in the first derby of 19-20. He never really got a chance after that as McPake was choosing the lightning quick midfield trio of Ness, Byrne and dorrans
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Robertson and McCowan definitely need more chances though, agree with McGinn though.
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8 hours ago, Vernon gilmore said:
I’d be tempted to try McGee at right back moving Cammy to left where he’s definitely had his best games , Marshall should be no more than back up , Ashcroft and Sweeney in the middle , French as back up , from what I’ve saw so far he’s not fit , breathing out his erse after 20 mins , I’d also play Finn instead of Shaun at moment better range of passing for me , and if McGowan ain’t fit then Lyle should be starting in his place , but this is possibly why I’ve never been a coach
I'd agree with McGhee at RB and Cammy left back. Thought McGhee was one of the best players in McPakes first two seasons up until he was injured in the September derby. Only came back in February properly in February and I thought he was good at RB/CB. The midfield experiment was good enough for the championship but not for the premiership. However I don't agree with everyone saying it should be Sweeney and X or Sweeney and Y. I'd be tempted to drop Sweeney instead and play McGhee, French, Ashcroft and Cammy.
Kerr has been good enough at RB and has been better for me at LB than Marshall. Genuinely don't understand the hype around Marshall and Sweeney. Sweeney can head the ball but as we saw on Saturday and times last season he's useless with the ball at his feet.
I said the same thing on twitter last year and another fan said "shock, defenders best attributes are defending". I'm sorry but he's a professional football player, he should be able to do the basics well enough like run with the ball and pass well. He's like Bambi on ice when the ball's at his feet.
He's a tall lad (6ft4) but he rarely attacks the ball well or even look like jumping to win it when we've got corners or free kicks. We always try and hit him at the back post, and to my knowledge it hasn't worked.
Haven't seen the third goal back and it was a poor clearance from sharp that led to it, but it would've been Marshall's area at the back post that the header came from. Seemed like he was caught in no man's land. He's a liability defensively (which should be the strongest part of his game) and he rarely provides going forward.
He's not the only one that doesn't provide going forward. Even though I've never liked jakubiak (he was second best to everything and I'm amazed bowyer couldn't see it), we don't have anyone that can cross well. If a cross manages to beat the first man there's always an opposition defender who gets there first. Jakubiak is just so slow and immobile. Still perplexed at why McPake gave him a new deal. Amusing to see fans say he's like a different player after scoring against part timers
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2 hours ago, Shadow Play said:
I thought Fin Robertson did well today, especially coming on when he did.
I know this may upset some but I think Robertson gives much more to the team than Byrne.
I think the same. Got slated last season constantly for saying questioning what everyone sees in Anderson. The game passed him by today, he's a passenger week in week out. Midfield should be McGowan, Mulligan and Robertson. Pace and strength with Robertson and Mulligan and McGowan is consistently good. At least Mulligan and McGowan like to shoot. Can't say the same for Byrne or Anderson. Too early to assess Williamson imo
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2 hours ago, johnnydun said:
Speaking of youths, I think a lot of these big money moves that other young Scottish talent are getting has a lot to do with the marketing and branding of them. The recent ones have been (albeit very different types) no better imo (although not seeing them every week) than Anderson or Mulligan, I think if we firstly sign them up on 4 year deals then market them both correctly, we could get 7 figure sums for them.
This is Dundee we're talking about, that's too sensible for us
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If it got to such a late stage with Ross and it came down to relocation being the main issue in the breakdown (going by the rumours) can't we just offer the money for his relocation. Surely that's better than going for the second choice who's only managed for 120 days, or a third choice if it even gets to that. Even putting him up in a flat in Edinburgh, it's two and a half hours to the north west of England or wherever his family stays.
I get some people will want to move on from Ross and get someone in asap but I'd rather the club put up with the extra costs than go for another project with a rookie coach or someone who didn't make the final two.
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6 minutes ago, RawB93 said:
Still a chance we get Ross in IMO.
I think that's a child in school uniform.
Wish I had your optimism but it looks like it could be him
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Maloney wasn't given a fair shot at Hibs, that much is clear. Maybe it would've changed for the better if he was given a full pre season and more of his own signings, but we'll never know. If it is to be him, I'll support him and wish him well.
However this just proves that we don't have a clear plan on how we want to move the club forward.
We went for a tried and tested lower league winner with Hartley, to an unproven rookie pundit in McCann, then the McIntyre debacle quickly followed by the youth coach McPake. An old dinosaur in McGhee later and we've gone for the unproven option again with little managerial experience. From one extreme to the other, and it's not worked. I've nothing against Maloney, all the best to him. I'm sure he's a good coach but I'm just perplexed at this point.
If Ross has indeed opted out due to relocation issues I'm surprised it's came down to this stage that he's decided to do so. It's typical dundee in the Nelms era that this is the final two, one proven manager capable of promotion and the other an inexperienced novice.
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JR is the logical option and the best we could hope for. Experience of turning a doomed team into title winners within a season. Seeing as this is Dundee though we'll end up with the DoF's son or the manager we sacked 5 years previous.
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On 26/04/2022 at 09:14, The Derry said:
We need a proper clear out, I'd keep about 7 players from this current lot. They are bottom of the worst Premiership I've ever seen.
Kerr, Byrne, Rudden, McMullan, Mulligan, Anderson and McCowan. McGinn and Sweeney would be maybes, but Sweeney is slow as death and scares the shite out of me.
Anyone who says Kerr has been shite this season is at it and I would be willing to fight anyone who says it.
I think Kerr has been one of the better players this year, especially while at LB. I also seem to be in the minority when it comes to Sweeney too, for a big guy he doesn't fully use his height to win many headers. Him trying to dribble through the saints midfield came shortly before their equaliser I'm sure. Definitely overrated imo
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Anyone else think we've also been unfit for years aswell? Seemed to change for the better once Hartley was appointed but after three years we were still doing the same set piece routines and not changing things up.
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16 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said:
He's right about the lack of physicality though. We perpetually look smaller, weaker, and slower than our opponents every time we set foot on the pitch.
That's nothing new I suppose. It's been like that for years
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25 minutes ago, johnnydun said:
The only way this makes any sense....
Get rid of McPake before he gets relegated, also does him a favour of not having a relegation on his CV.
Bring in a Strachan/McGhee team in the short term to shit fest our way out of relegation.
Bring in Ross for the start of next season, because he has some kind of clause with his Hibs contract that he can't manage another team in the league this season.
This is the only way I can see it makes any glint of sense.
What clause is that? I'd feel a bit better with McGhee (slightly) if it meant we could feasibly get Ross in the summer.
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Nelms doesn't have a clue about football. Honestly what the hell was he thinking appointing Gordon's best mate and embarrassment of a manager.
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No Ross, Wright, or Thomson according to Alan Pattullo. First name after that group to not be ruled out is Mark McGhee. Ffs
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2 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:
Actually starting to panic slightly that it'll be McGhee based on that Pattullo article...
Same here. Heart was set on JR but I don't have a clue who it's rumoured to be.
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On 10/02/2022 at 10:00, kevthedee said:
Rudden is just the kind of player we need.
Someone who will work their bullocks off and get in the faces of the defenders and wind them up.
In other words he's a dirty fucking b*****d and I love it.Been ages since we've had someone who winds up the opposition and doesn't take any pish. Haven't seen much of him myself but I'm liking the things that people are saying so far
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I've criticised Anderson recently and got slated for it. I'll hold my hands up tonight though. His terrible first touch allowed McGinn to get the ball back into the box for Mullen for the winner so fair play
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Just now, Ludo*1 said:
12 points off 4th.
Europe here we come
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Cammy has been great at LB most times he's played there, whether in the championship or premiership. Keep McGhee at RB or Vontae, Drop Fontaine for Ashcroft when he returns and keep Sweeney and Kerr as is. Lawlor to keep his place too.
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Just now, LM_0803 said:
The battling win that keeps him in a job has came early. Has one win in our last 10 league games really changed everyone's mind on the manager we all wanted out suddenly? Genuine question for debate.
I get the people who are saying, "I wanted him out, but to give him and the players credit tonight, they did well" but I'm seeing alot of people backing him when just yesterday there was loads of calls for him to get sacked. Needless to say I'm not saying this has turned a corner for us. Good to see hearts fans raging
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33 minutes ago, johnnydun said:
Yeah 4 more shite results to come then a battling win, rinse, repeat...
The battling win that keeps him in a job has came early. Has one win in our last 10 league games really changed everyone's mind on the manager we all wanted out suddenly? Genuine question for debate.
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Thinking back to when we sacked McCann. Announcement came out around 6/7 in the evening, with a few days of the international break to go. Fairly out of the blue, considering the sensible option was to do it at the start of the break, and the time of day was strange too imo. McIntyre announcement was 8 days after relegation was confirmed, with a statement released at midday on the Sunday after we beat Livingston.
I believe that we would've heard by now, but it's not as if our owners are methodical when sacking managers or announcing the sacking of managers. Defeat on Wednesday will surely be it. Surely?
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49 minutes ago, Wamble said:
Might be the same players but realistically he's tactically inept and his decisions vs Ross Country highlight that. I honestly believe we have a better squad than St Johnstone and United but we're constantly held back by his shite tactics. Might be a biased opinion but if we get someone with decent experience I recon they can get this group of players performing to a better standard than he can.
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Still think 3-2 flattered us. Apart from McGinn hitting the side netting in the first half and Mulligan shooting when he should've passed to McGinn I can't remember many chances until Cammy scored. We didn't deserve a point so I think it would've been harsh on thistle if we did get it. They didn't have to play that well to get the win.
On the keeper situation - I don't get why some people are clambering for legzins to come back. His kicking is as bad as Sharps and Lawlors (none of the three goalkeepers kick a ball well) and he made some high profile errors last year (Hibs 2-2 and United 1-0 spring to mind immediately), and that's before we even mention his time wasting!
Even though his kicking is rubbish I'd much rather see sharp remain in goal. Bring back Bobby Geddes. There's a keeper that can kick a football.