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3 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:
If he isn’t, we are utterly fucked. Even with Ashford up top himself in the current set up, this side is going down. We are basically going to be asking McInroy and Dempsey to drag us through as the rest don’t offer much at all.
I don’t think fight is the issue, it is Bullen’s insistence in playing players who don’t do much more than run about all game. He doesn’t seem to understand balance whatsoever. That’s why Dempsey is so important as he works like f**k but also has some kind of ability.
We lined up with 2 defensive midfielders, no real width and one isolated striker up front. It just wasn’t a surprise at all that we never looked like scoring. For the umpteenth time this season we waited until we were a goal down before we attempted to be more progressive, but even then the substitutions were incoherent..
For all the criticism of Adeloye as a lone striker, it’s only taken Ashford 3 or 4 games to get sufficiently frustrated that he earned himself a straight red. Must be soul destroying spending your day chasing scraps and lost causes.
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4 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said:
After half an hour I thought it was going to be at least 6.
I would have to quit my job and not go to several pubs again and come off all social media.
All credit to Bullen and the players, The game was gone but we never looked in danger after the half hour mark so there is a fight and some pride in the team.
the team against Arbroath was wrong, Bullen seems to like being comfy. The first half we didn’t look in danger but didn’t cause any threat. He could have changed the players or shape to try and do that.
We go a goal down and the changes were inexplicable.Don’t kid yourself. Kilmarnock should have had a penalty for Fjortoft’s handball and the same player had to take a red card to stop them running through on goal. Could easily have been 5 by halftime. Kilmarnock settled at half time and managed the game thereafter. The real test was how we responded to that horror show up at Arbroath, and there was absolutely nothing. Bullen has to take some blame for that with his awful set up. Moffat must be cutting about on a Zimmer frame if he genuinely has less to offer than a 17 year old who has looked completely out his depth on every showing I’ve seen and appears nowhere close to ready for first team football.
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Just now, UpInTheAyr said:2 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said:We have the fight in the team to stay up, don’t worry about that
its ability that will f**k usOther way about for me.
Yep, what fight? The players disgraced themselves last Friday and you might have thought we’d have seen a reaction against Arbroath. Instead they mustered no shots at goal and conceded another goal from a near post corner.
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Just now, itzdrk said:
Nah, the teams wee purple patch is gone and have reverted to shite, they'll be away.
I’m not feeling great about Saturday given we’ll probably have Bryden up front. Away trips to Queens and Dunfermline still to come as well. We’ll need to take big points from our 3 home games, which is worrying given Bullen has yet to conjure a home win (the Arbroath game doesn’t count).
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1 hour ago, itzdrk said:
Craig Conway?
Fair point. As a product of our youth system, Alan Forrest did a lot more for the club. Adams was a recent cult hero, but Malcolm Shotton was on another level. Probably should have had a swing at the manager’s job back in the mid 90s.
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We’re in the shit now. You knew Uncle Ian would let us down.
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Other than Alex Ferguson , which is an odd choice given he was a journeyman striker who was done by the time he came to Ayr, I’d happily have a table for everyone on the list!
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2 hours ago, malkyshotton said:
Wouldn’t be surprised if he did tbh. Gets unfair stick. We would probably be unable to get a striker that’s gave us the return he has next season if that’s the case. Reminds me of when Robbie Crawford and to a degree Alan Forest left us. Ayr fans (some) never seem to know when we’ve got someone decent until they’ve left. Don’t know if it’s just Ayr fans (some) that are this way or other clubs fans are the sameI seem to remember a few Ayr fans saying we wouldn’t miss Ross Docherty. Unreal.
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13 hours ago, motley123rock said:
Bugger all wrong with him if he can journey several hundred miles to watch a game in London.
I’m impressed that Adeloye can be the scapegoat even when he is out injured.
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Never in all my decades of watching Ayr have I watched the club blow so much smoke up one man’s arsehole as they have done with Bullen. The only comparison I can think of was back in the mid 90s when we were briefly taken in by Simon Stainrod’s swagger and fedora hat. I don’t think this is going to end any better for us. Looking at his tactics, team selection and particularly substitutions, it’s hard to avoid the conclusion that he is completely clueless.
Doesn’t excuse the players right enough - after disgracing themselves last Friday, I was looking for a response today, so to produce such an insipid performance says a lot about them as a group. Next week looks a write off already given Morton’s improvement and the likelihood that we won’t have a forward line. That Accies were good enough to take 4 off Partick doesn’t bode well either. We are basically now relying on Dunfermline and/or Queens being worse than we are.
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Bringing on a school wean who has never kicked a ball for the senior team and has never looked anything other than out of his depth in his appearances so far, is just one of many reasons to question Bullen’s increasingly incoherent decision making.
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Take away that out of the blue win against Kilmarnock and Bullen has done absolutely nothing. We were probably lucky to hit Inverness and Raith at just the right time, because our performances outside of those 3 games have been simply awful.
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Hard to tell how bad the tackle really was.
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Hard to believe that Bullen is just standing there with his thumb up his arse.
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Is McAdams contracted for next season? He really is pretty woeful at crosses.
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53 minutes ago, WATTOO said:
I hated Sharples but the rest are in my personal "hall of fame" with Duncan probably my all time favourite !!
PK, now there was a man who could take a corner !!
How could you hate Sharples? He was absolute class. Think he got a career ending injury not long after leaving Ayr so probably didn’t fulfil his potential. Think we got decent money for him as well.
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25 minutes ago, WATTOO said:
If I remember correctly, the legend who was Willie Furphy was playing for Ross County.
Some good players in the Ayr team that day. Cammy Duncan, John Traynor, Duncan George, Willie Jamieson, Paul Kinnard and John Sharples (who scored a stunning OG as I recall!).
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Houston played in a much better team when he first signed, so maybe he just appeared to show up better and his performances over the last 2 seasons are more reflective of the real standard he’s at. That said, I do seem to remember him getting around the park a lot faster when he first arrived, but maybe that was just compared to Andy Geggan who’s legs had pretty much gone that year.
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I see Bet365 have refunded me bet credits on my James Maxwell anytime to score bet, presumably because he was hooked after 20 minutes. You know it’s been a bad night when the bookies are taking pity on you.
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21 minutes ago, itzdrk said:
It's pretty obvious that our jist dae the same hing approach naturally gave poorer protection to the defence than any of the previous derbies, it was just 15 minutes of nobody looking like they knew where they were, and the players deserve blame as well as the manager for leaving them so exposed.
Arriving last night and seeing them in a 442 felt like turning up at Firhill earlier in the season to see Duffy had brought the back 5 back and just knowing you are going to get humped.
We will just have to see where we end up with this Bullen experiment but he'll be here next year so we just need to put up with it and hope these kind of mistakes are learned.
Was speaking to a Killie fan at work today (who was surprisingly magnanimous, smug p***k) who expressed his own surprise that we took a man out the midfield and went “gung ho” as he put it. As others see us?
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40 minutes ago, eez-eh said:
You’re being really fucking generous in your assessment of the first 20 minutes here.
It wasn’t the case that it was an even enough first 20 and Killie just got lucky with our shite defending. We literally couldn’t get a hold of the ball. The defence were almost always camped on our 18 yard line while Killie did what they wanted to with the ball. They didn’t have many clear cut chances outside of our suicidal defending but I don’t think the entire team chasing shadows helped matters.
You must have the other half of my brain!
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34 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said:
Who said that Dempsey couldn’t start the game? The reason he didn’t start was because we played 4-4-2 which should’ve been fine if we hadn’t given Kilmarnock three easy goals.
If you thought we lost last night because of how we set up then I really don’t know what to tell you.To recap, we were 3 down inside 15 minutes, we completely changed the shape of the team after 20 minutes and subbed off 2 players at the same time, neither of whom were particularly guilty of individual errors for the goals. Fjortoft was presumably thrown on to try and deal with Lafferty’s physicality (or for comedy value, I’m not sure which) and Dempsey was clearly put on to give us more legs in the middle of the park as they were running through us at will.
If you can’t see that tale of woe as evidence of a malfunctioning setup, then I don’t know what to tell you. I presume that you are implying that last night was mainly down to “individual errors” - I personally think that’s a conceit that gets trotted out when we don’t want to admit the truth, which is that we were absolutely ragdolled.
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5 hours ago, Finlay21 said:
What was naïve about his set up last night ? Most fans would have been happy with the selection considering Dempsey didn’t train the week before and was still carrying a slight knock that’s why he didn’t start , last night was nothing to do with being naïve it was purely down to horrendous defending and individual errors
Don’t really care if the fans are happy with the selection - this isn’t a committee system. It’s the manager’s responsibility to set the team up and we were an utter shambles. There was a lot more wrong last night than just individual errors, though that is a useful conclusion if you want to absolve Bullen of any responsibility. Kilmarnock were clearly looking to play to Lafferty’s physicality and get runners in behind - I don’t think we had the first idea how we planned to deal with that. As others have said, it looked like a classic case of “this team worked against an awful Raith side, so let’s just try that again”. Dempsey played 70 minutes without issue so there was clearly no reason why he couldn’t have started the game.
After sacking 3 managers in less than a year, we can only hope that Bullen is the man going forward. But honestly, the level of completely unearned hype around the guy is ridiculous. The unlikely win at Rugby Park bought him a lot of goodwill, and rightly so, but the home performances since he took over have been woeful. Outplayed and outthought by Dougie Imrie’s Morton and Willie Gibson’s QOS in crunch relegation 6 pointers, a feeble capitulation against St Mirren in the cup and now a derby performance that I think most are agreed was the worst in living memory.
The midfield 3 of Murdoch, Dempsey and McInroy looked like something we could build around, so hopefully we will see that return next week.
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Don’t know what to make of Bullen. He’s clearly got bags of enthusiasm and there has been a clear improvement already in the recruitment of new players. On the other hand, there’s a tactical naïveté about him that has verged on ineptitude at times. Last night was extreme, but when you consider the dire performances against Queens and Morton as well as the early capitulation against St Mirren in the cup it didn’t come out of nowhere. The wins over Kilmarnock and Inverness were built on the midfield 3 of Dempsey, Murdoch and McInroy, so I guess we should build around that. Maybe Bullen just got carried away by the win against a Raith side that have been in full implosion mode for weeks.
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No way can we seriously consider starting Bryden on Saturday. Think we’ll have little option but to push McKenzie up front. Guess it’ll depend on Dempsey’s fitness what happens beyond that.