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I didn't realise until tonight how bloated (and I don't mean just Greg Stewart) the Kilmarnock squad is, old Delboy must be strecthing the resources a bit...
After that guff the BBC put up on their site about a 'sliding doors moment' with McInnes leaving us and going to Killie, I really hope we pull our finger out tomorrow and win.
Kilmarnock haven't been in a Scottish Cup semi-final since they won it and have never beaten us in the Scottish Cup...so if it happens tomorrow, I hope Warnock does the right thing and leaves the club with immediate effect.
We're long due a good performance so hopefully we will see one tomorrow with a win.
I think it's going to be tight though, and it could go either way. Perhaps VAR or penatly kicks will decide it...
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13 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:
All this "WE WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT" patter is starting to look a wee bit desperate.
Enjoyable.
Coincidentally, I've thought your patter has been desperate since I first clapped eyes on one of your posts. Desperate to constantly troll.
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9 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:
I thought they were going to score, right up until I got into my car and saw it was 90+1 and thought ‘ooft, we may just do this’.
But football hates me, and I hate football. So there we go.
I was celebrating wildly with two goals in injury time but I was in the West Ham end at Goodison with no access to the network (all through the game) so had no idea what the scoreline was...
Once I was outside and was able to establish that the two injury time goals at Goodison had been usurped by the two injury time goals in Paisley, I surmised that what the Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away...
Maybe it was his way of telling me that I should've been in Paisley rather than Liverpool.
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8 hours ago, Ric said:
I mean... you are right, it is.
Just makes it twice as much nonsense then..
I defend your right to think my two sentences are nonsensical, just as you should defend my right to think that the your thread is whimsical nonsense begun more in hope that we disappear through the Championship trap door than actually particularly likely at this stage
The opening post of this thread has the feel of a Kenny McIntyre tabloid drama for my liking.
I'll defend my two sentences by saying that I stated:
Aberdeen have lost their last three games, which we have, ergo not nonsense.
That you created this thread on the back of our defeat in Paisley, which you did.
That if St Mirren had lost three games in a row, and had lost two late goals at Pittodrie, and were 10 points off bottom and four points off second bottom, then it would be highly unlikely that anyone would think that warranted a thread.
Therefore, we must be perceived, whether true or not, as one of the bigger teams in Scotland.
We had a two minute collapse in Paisley in a match which we were good enough to take all three points.
A sickener for us Dons, and you Saints are, quite rightly, rubbing out faces in it but, in my opinion, I've seen worse Aberdeen sides than this present one, and they haven't been relegated either.
The one thing that would concern me would be if we got into a bottom six situation where teams, with little to play for, might ease up a bit against Ross County and turn up against us and make us fight but that would be our own fault for getting into this situation.
Of course, if we do get relegated, then I fully expect and encourage you to shove these words down my throat!
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I think we're two victories from safety (not officially but I think it will be good enough), we've had a bad February but I'm optimistic March will see an improvement starting with victory against Killie on Saturday.
We're obviously still a big enough club to attract nonsense threads like this and all because we've lost our last three matches. If St Mirren lost three matches in a row then it wouldn't raise a whimper.
I'm more interested in us make a final push for 6th place in the games remaining if the players and management can regain some kind of composure.
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2 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:
@Dons_1988 FUCKING SEE!!
I remember last season someone suggesting their team was by some distance the third best in Scotland and would be proved once the European campaign (if you call get pumped at home and abroad a campaign) was over.
However, his team collapsed in the second half of the season.
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On 01/03/2024 at 06:43, VincentGuerin said:
At the time of the League Cup final Aberdeen were 8th in the league, averaging just over a point a game.
They were shite then, and they're shite now.
It's very funny to have followed the Aberdeen excuse/justification journey this season.
We've got European games.We've had a lot of away games.There's a run of home games coming up.We've got games in hand.Robson needs to change to four at the back.Robson needs to go and we need an experienced coach.Now, it was the League Cup final!
Aberdeen have a shite team. That's it. It's hilarious watching people insist that this squad that has averaged a point a game over seven months, and been pumped at home by the likes of St Mirren, St
Johnstone, etc is actually really talented and just being held back by one or all of the dismissed factors above.
Let me see:
We did have European games
We did have a run of away games
We did have a run of home games
We did have games in hand
Robson did need to change to four at the back
We do need a more experienced, tactical savvy coach
We have beaten your lot, your Glasgow brethren (once but it should've been twice had the VAR ref not decided to manipulate the outcome), reached a League Cup final, beat a Bundesliga side, drawn away with a side that pumped you 4 zip.
Therefore, we as a support had reasons to believe we would find our feet as the season progressed but, unfortunately for us, it hasn't worked out that way.
However, if Hearts had beaten the zombies in Glasgow, beaten a Bundesliga side at home, drawn away in Greece and reached a League Cup Final it would be one of your most memorable seasons ever.
For the Dons though, it's one of our worst.
That's the difference between a club with a rich history of success and diddy club from Edinburgh.
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On 28/02/2024 at 18:34, Molotov said:
Possibly. We will never know unless an independent referee would review both games.
John Holt has his opinion here:Walter Smith his view here (bit different to Holt):
I've watched the whole match twice in the last ten years from the BBC coverage at the time, and United played very poorly, Ralph Milne in particular lost his nerve and should've had United 1-0 up.
I didn't think Vautrot made any obvious errors in favouring the home team and the penalty seemed legitimate.
I just think United couldn't cope in the febrile atmosphere and the afternoon kick off didn't help with regards temperature.
Perhaps Vautrot would've revealed himself had Milne scored but it was obvious from early in the game that he wouldn't require any intervention.
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2 hours ago, pozbaird said:
St Mirren’s expectations however are more clearly defined and achieveable than whatever the fcuk the ones at Aberdeen are. Hands off Robinson, Cormack, you full away strip w****r…
Most Aberdeen fans expectations at the moment is to find a manager who is a competent tactician, knows the squad and understands how to get the best from them.
Unfortunately with Cormack he keeps choosing the antithesis of this with Glass, Goodwin, Robson and now Warnock.
So if he keeps picking the wrong managers with shit results then we'll keep calling him out until he either gets it right, gets someone else to pick the manager, or finally decides that running a football club isn't for him.
In my humble opinion, I'm at the stage now where I think Stephen Robinson would be the most sensible appointment.
Now is not the time for taking unnecessary risks (although a new manager always brings an element of risk), the club needs stability....and needs the new manager in position preferably in the next couple of weeks so we can send Warnock back to Devon or wherever he left the SAGA tour...
Having said all that, if Cormack continues his hands on involvement of the club then we're going down to the Championship eventually. The man seems to me to be a self-absorbed clown.
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10 hours ago, johnnydun said:
Ah well, nevermind eh.
Haha, you've just been pumped 7-1 and you come on here gloating!
Find some self-respect
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27 minutes ago, 1GregStewart said:
Out of interest how would you describe your team?
I'm not a Saint but from what I've seen it's football's answer to Michelangelo's painting of Sistine Chapel ceiling...High renaissance football from that artisan Levein.
Or to quote Alan Partridge, "liquid football".
I'm eagerly anticipating tomorrow.
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48 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
We're the 3rd most successful team in the country in the past decade, your clubs only celebrated one diddy cup in that time.
Its not a surprise you cant relate to why our standards are so high.
Your trophies won to goals scored ratio over the last ten years must be the best in the world...it just proves the point that you don't need to score many goals to win trophies.
Our only trophy during this millennium saw us draw 0-0 at home to Alloa and 0-0 in the final against ICT en route to glory.
Maybe if there were less goals then the broadcasting companies would leave our great game alone.
Actually, I thoroughly enjoyed the 0-0 between the clubs earlier in the season.
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28 minutes ago, johnnydun said:
Am I the only one (definitely not) who finds it absolutely hilarious that these 2 teams are playing to avoid the relegation play off spot?
If we did find a way to win on Wednesday, and you lose in Glasgow then we're two points behind your mob.
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47 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:
I’m sure sometimes folk say that kind of thing in exaggeration, but we’ve scored 17 goals in 27 league games this season.
0.63 goals per game.THE LOWEST IN THE 4 SCOTTISH FOOTBALL LEAGUES.
LOWER THAN ANYONE IN THE TOP 5 LEAGUES IN ENGLAND.
Livingston have only won 3 matches this season, but have scored more.
I think you’ll find we have a right to say we are unlikely to score!It might be false memory but I can't remember a time, at least in the last 20 years, when St Johnstone were ever free scoring.
Well maybe apart one game at Pittodrie...
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On 22/02/2024 at 16:09, tarapoa said:
That is why McInnes, Robinson and Docherty will all likely finish in the top half and a couple of them will have summer continental sojourns
I'm not sure getting pumped in Wales and Northern Ireland is classed as a continental sojourn but it looks likely two of these three amigos will take their rudimentary footballing tactics into Europe.
Although I wouldn't place any money on Killie repeating the trick next season if they're laying a proper playing surface in the summer. It's like QPR and Luton Town in the 1980s playing on the carpet rolled on top of concrete with the ball bouncing about like a pinball cushion.
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3 hours ago, kingjoey said:
Interesting crowds. That’s what happens in an eighteen team top division.
Can we take these attendances as gospel though? Wasn't it a 50/50 split in those days and the home team would downplay the official attendance so they didn't have to give up so much cash to the opposition.
Falkirk's Roxburgh netted I see
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29 minutes ago, Urban Spaceman said:
There is also times when the "supporters" of the game are themselves to blame for the change being forced on them:
1980: Old Firm Riot
1985: Heysel
Society change, for better or worse (mostly worse) the game has changed with it.
The Old Firm riot sparked change for the betterment (in my view) of Scottish football, in as far as fans were no longer coming into stadium with carry outs a bag of tins or a bottles of wine.
I mentioned the Heysel which also initiated improvements with regards the Taylor Report and further afield as far as big crowds are no longer rountinely placed in dilapidated, ill-equipped stadiums.
However, with regards the Heysel disaster, the Liverpool fans charging definitely initiated the deaths but don't underestimate the condition of the Heysel itself played in the the disaster...there was low flimsy wire fence segregating the Liverpool supporters from the Juventus family section, bits of masonry lying about, and the wall that eventually collapsed not fit for purpose.
The Saturday before, the Main Stand at the Valley Parade had went up in flames because of the condition of the wooden stand and the build up of rubbish underneath.
Consequently, there were troublemakers during this period amongst supporters but the Thatcher Government did nothing to force or encourage clubs to improve the environment where supporters went to watch their club.
You sound a bit like the former Minister of Sport, Colin Moynihan, who also liked to suggest that all supporters were to blame for the actions of a minority.
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On 19/02/2024 at 15:48, Otis Blue said:
Chronologically, aye that would be about the start of it. However, the malaise isn't unique to up here - most of the European leagues show the same imbalanced evidence of the results of huge financial disparity across clubs. I worked in Peterhead early 80s and used to watch the Fergie Dons at Pittodrie and was also at Dens when United won the league. Nice to reminisce, but those days will never return sadly - unless the ugly sisters depart for the attraction of seriously big bucks in the hopefully soon to happen European Leagues.
There's a few steps in the timeline when the beautiful game turned ugly, both local and further afield factors. Off the top of my head:
1985: Bradford and Heysel tragedies.
1986: Souness arrives at Ibrox
1989: Hillsborough tragedy
1989 - 1992: Break up of the Soviet Union
1992: Guffball and Champions League begins
1993: Bosman ruling
1999: European Cup Winners Cup ends and his merged into UEFA Cup.
2003: Roman Abramovich takeover Chelsea
2008: The Qataris takeover Man City
2009: UEFA Cup rebranded
2010: Russia wins the right to host 2018 World Cup and Qatar wins the right to host a winter World Cup in 2022
I mean there's lots more before, in-between and after but all are included on the path to where we currently are, and I think its now went beyond the stage where it can be saved as the peoples game.
Business has stolen the game with the the lie to fans of unlimited success and riches if you can attract major investment or sell players for huge sums of money.
Now we're regularly told by the media that we can only expect to compete with those clubs that have similar annual turnover.
It's ceased being a competitive sport.
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2 hours ago, tarapoa said:
Sacking offence at AFC that was.
I think it was the run of ten games without a goal that done him....and his £17k a week was never going to be sustainable...but yeah, he got sacked because he was winning without flair, that sounds like what all is old Oldco mates would've said on the radio
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I haven't read the rest of the thread but my overriding thought from Saturday was how poor Barron, Jenson, Shinnie and Roos were...
I think Warnock has improved us but he can't do much with the hand he's been dealt with regards the squad of players.
I think we just need to put the main focus on the Scottish Cup and hope for a couple of breaks but we'll do well to get past Kilmarnock.
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I'm fascinated to know more about Ronnie Jepson's actions at Heysel in 1985.
He was acquitted of manslaughter, but it prevented his league playing career starting for four years.
I can't find anything further online than the case against him being dropped though.
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I've got an itch for the great outdoors now... can't wait to get the walking boots on again next month.
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2 hours ago, Lurkst said:
The next time we played Israel after that was on 11th October 2018. John Souttar becoming the most recent Scotland player to be red carded in a 2-1 defeat...
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The next time a manned launch failed after Challenger was on 11th October 2018. Happily both men survived the in flight abort of Soyuz MS-10.
Fortunately for the sake of human space exploration the coincidence between these two events did not continue after that day.
Wow, what a coincidence! An unhappy coincidence, I still can't understand the American media as they pointed their cameras directly in the faces of the poor parents of the teacher Christa McAuliffe as they watched the shuttle blow up and their daughter's death in real time as they looked up to the sky from the viewing platform at Cape Canaveral.
The Israeli goalkeeper, Avi Ran, had a similar death to Kirsty MacColl. He was killed around 18 months after the match.
The Israeli team that day is pictured below. St Mirren fans of a certain vintage may recognise Mechelen's Eli Ohana.
If St Mirren fans don't remember Eli Ohana, then here is a reminder...
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Has Sportscene been pulled at the last minute this evening? They were still advertising it on Sportsound at 10pm
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I completely agree with everything you say apart from the bit that says "Rangers".