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2 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:
Getting sacked in the EFL is no way to judge a coach. Everybody gets sacked and it's an environment of streaky teams.
Very true, and as others have said this is what makes Alex Neil unlikely. The EFL managerial wheel of fortune will land on his name again soon enough, for a higher salary (and subsequent payoff) than we're likely to offer.
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38 minutes ago, DrewDon said:
That account just lifts things off forums, other Twitter users, and occasionally from Scott Burns.
Burns himself says only one of those three names is an active consideration, to his knowledge, and I would take a guess at that being Thelin.
As much as I would like it to be Alex Neil, I can’t see him being desperate or stupid enough to take this job on at the moment.
@RandomGuy. - a fuller and better assessment than mine over on the next manager thread.
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10 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
How reliable is this guy?
If memory serves, reliable when just repeating actual ITK-types' stuff, otherwise not so much. (I might be misremembering though.)
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9 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said:
In the same season that we've won at Ibrox, beaten Hibs with 10 men in a semi, had some very respectable performances in Europe, we have picked up 6 league wins. Half of which have come against the only other two teams currently below us in the table. We've won TWICE out of NINETEEN games against the teams from 3rd to 9th. Those teams are Hearts, St Mirren, Killie, Dundee, Hibs, Motherwell and St Johnstone. This really is as bad as I can remember. f**k, if it wasn't for the 5 points we'd picked up against the bigot brothers to County's zero. And the 6 we've got against them, we'd be cut adrift in 11th.
Aberdeen FC have been well and truly cormacked.
That is properly grim.
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1 hour ago, Leith Green said:
My wife (not interested in fitba) asked me about the differences last night.
What I told her is that Rangers are on a vastly different level - their behaviour, bigotry, songbook, and everything else has to be seen to be believed.
I've had this exact conversation with my wife (also not interested in football). Rangers games undoubtedly bring out peak-arseholery in our support, but the bile from the other end at those games is just relentless.
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35 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said:
Ask yourself why he would leave early.
Fair. I think mostly his own ego - thought he'd stroll it, taken aback by the negative attention he got, an element of 'this isn't worth it.'
I'm guessing you suspect more of 'I'm getting the f*ck out of Dodge - this is a nightmare of a club?' Not an unreasonable conclusion either.
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I think I got overly caught up in the typically over-the-top and ill-informed Sportsound reaction to Warnock leaving - more fool me. Because of the circus around Warnock and Cormack's poor media skills, it all looks a bit worse than it is, really, and this morning's statement is actually fairly reassuring. What has actually happened?
- Club sacks underperforming and underqualified manager (it's on them for hiring him in the first place, of course)
- Club recognises structural flaws; hires well-regarded firm to audit all that, and decides to take time over next managerial appointment
- A vastly experienced, media-friendly interim is appointed who specialises in short-term gigs
- That appointment doesn't work out, so club decides to finalise new manager sooner than originally planned
- Interim decides to chuck it a couple of weeks early (which seems to be what's happened), which isn't necessarily the club's fault
There's not really anything daft going on there, when broken down like that. I expect the DoF will be 'supported' for a few months before being re-assigned or let go, or I hope that's the case. I've talked myself down from calling us an 'exploding clown car' in another thread on Saturday.
All of the above is, of course, null and void if Neil Lennon is appointed.
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24 minutes ago, DrewDon said:
crucially I think this thread really needs more contributions from St Mirren fans.
Robinson to come in and concede that he couldn’t really tell whether Miovski struck the ball twice or not.
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We are the famous… exploding clown car of Scottish football.
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1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said:
oh my god if it’s Lennon then I may never forgive cormack
It’d be heid’s gone for me. A really poor manager who’s been out of work since well before Robson was sacked.
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Surely not Lennon. Surely. Surely?
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If I didn’t have the fear before, it’s well and truly started now.
I think we’re heading for the play-off at best. As @RandomGuy. said, no one in red seems to have grasped how much we’re in the sh*t.
And when they do, they’ll panic. Grim.
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1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said:
I think 6th is our absolute ceiling to be honest. Kilmarnock are better than us just now, I don’t think that’s even debatable. There’s nothing to suggest we’re about to put together the consistency required to finish above them. Even in the unlikely event that we win tomorrow id hold the same view tbh.
Well, if we caught Dundee then I could see us catching St Mirren too, so I'd raise that ceiling to fifth. But I agree there's nothing to suggest we'll put a run together, and suspect we'll end up seventh. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong (in the direction of the ceiling, not the skirting board).
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57 minutes ago, DC92 said:
It is box office, but I think it's also an annoyingly sensible appointment. He's proven just about everywhere he's been (albeit usually in the English Championship) that he can deliver results in the short term and he's the right sort of personality to lift the mood around the club.
If he can get them into Europe then they'll also be on a stronger footing to bring a new manager in in the summer than they are now.
Pretty much my take on it. He's a big character in interviews and on the touchline, but he's not eccentric in his tactics. He's a pragmatist. I think he'll use the time wisely - I hope Cormack and Burrows do the same.
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1 hour ago, Widge said:
Robson should see this and play a system that makes Miovski stand out as the excellent striker he is.
Miovski and Clarkson are two of the most talented non-Celtic players in the league. Robson seems incapable of getting the best out of either. He spent months playing Clarkson too deep and having the defence shell balls over his head, or insisting he drops deep to do the shelling.
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1 minute ago, VincentGuerin said:
Milne oversaw a team with one of the biggest budgets in the country (so big they eventually needed a third-party bailout) finishing bottom of the league.
That's not a chairman you give credit for avoiding relegation.
Don't worry, I wasn't.
We scraped through that period, only marginally less badly managed than some other clubs. It's always seemed to me that Milne underwrote things - kept us going as others have said above - without ever investing properly in the club, which is one of the reasons our stadium is now falling to bits. I don't really know enough about the financial ins and outs, though.
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10 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:
Milne's tenure should have included a relegation in 2000
I'll take the hit on correcting this line this time round. It could have included a relegation. We were utter pish after all. We should have been in a three-team playoff with Falkirk and Dunfermline, but Brockville etc. etc.
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9 hours ago, DrewDon said:
The first half, up until the equaliser, was another painful watch. The 5-3-2/3-5-2 was entirely self-defeating; again, unnecessarily limiting the available passing options and restricting our movement. I could understand the fans getting frustrated at the likes of Gartenmann for his distribution, but the options too often were simply not there: it was either back to Roos or a hopeful punt over the top against a well-structured and relatively deep-lying defensive unit. We were far too easy to play against and Livingston, without doing anything spectacular, were able to shut us down without any issues.
We were better in the second half, and especially once we moved to 4-3-3. Duk and Morris stretched the game effectively, and Duk especially had them on toast for about twenty minutes. The available passing options improved and our movement got better. Polvara especially seemed to be benefiting from the game opening up a bit, and some of his passing was much more incisive and positive. It was very far from perfect, or perhaps even good, but it was better - and I think over the piece we just about deserved to win the game.
On an individual level, Miovski's finishes were excellent and his movement was typically impressive. I'm looking forward to seeing the header back because it looked like a top-class finish at the game, and it was at a hugely important time for the team and the fans, out of basically nothing and what looked like a decent but fairly optimistic Devlin cross. Polvara stepped up in the second half and took more ownership of the ball, showed more incisiveness, which is what I want to see from him. Duk was much more effective when moved wide in the 4-3-3 and deserves huge credit for his role in the winner. As has been said, though, we are not getting the best from Clarkson and Shinnie at the moment, especially in the 3-5-2 against teams who are happy to contain and counter-attack, so that is something Robson tactically still has to work out, although I thought some of Polvara's running did ease the burden on Shinnie at times tonight. McGarry, unfortunately, played like a left-footed version of Jack Gurr. If we didn't know after the goal on Sunday why Robson has generally been preferring Hayes in 'bigger' games recently, we can't be in too much doubt after that.
Careful Drew, you'll get a reputation for being insightful.
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1 hour ago, Leith Green said:
Cant disagree with this - in the early league matches this season, Johnson would argue that we "had 70% possession" or some other stat.
Stephen Glass was the same. Talked up our possession stats, which were mainly a result of endless square and backwards balls with zero incisiveness past halfway.
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Enough is enough. We need to stop bluffing and unleash Or Dadia.
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12 hours ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said:
on twitter.
Do folk just not have a clue?
There might be a link here. Not where the great minds in many supports congregate.
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35 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:
Is Dykes not still nursing an injury?
Aye, right you are. Probably Adams for Dykes then.
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I'd go:
Gunn
Porteous McKenna Tierney
Hickey Gilmour McGregor Robertson
McGinn Christie
Dykes
With an eye to using the movement and energy of McTominay and Adams off the bench, and McLean's composure. Subs important given the heat. Can see at least a couple of different picks by Clarke, but ones I'd be equally happy with.
I think we'll win, but it won't be anything approaching a stroll. 1-0 or 2-0 with a late second.
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Aberdeen's Next Permanent Manager - Pantomine Continues - Warnock's Gone
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Or, 8 managers who can form like Voltron. Make it happen FMB.