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If Hanlon, Stevenson and Marshall were all to leave there is a decent chance Chris Cadden will be our only Scottish first team player next season.
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1 hour ago, DukDukGoose said:
From the small amount I've seen, he's tried to implement a style that didn't suit his squad.
So many managers make this mistake that it baffles me.
That is on the people who appointed him in my opinion. These things should be taken into consideration when appointing a new manager, matching their style of play with the squad you have.
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39 minutes ago, AndyM said:
Absolutely Tommy. Once their findings are complete then the recommendations on Kensall, Monty and others will be actioned. Could be minor surgery or it could be a bloodbath.
I doubt anything will happen. Montgomery should count himself lucky, though. He has had longer than Maloney, was better backed in January and has sill finished bottom six. Maloney was sacked for less.
No way they sack Kensell, the Gordon's love him.
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I like it to an extent, if you are a fan of the club that finishes seventh with no prospect of relegation it results in five meaningless games, but them's the breaks.
Looks like Hibs might do that for the second time in three seasons, unfortunately.
Would prefer a larger top league, but that'll never happen with our current TV deal.
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15 minutes ago, AndyM said:
Classy.
Your away support of swivel eyed, mouth breathers could maybe just try realise it's the 21st Century and act like human beings. Have you actually anything left if you remove the sectarian crap?
They just don't get it, do they? So thick, the thought of changing their own behaviour doesn't cross their mind.
Saw one on Twitter saying that we will reverse the decision because we need their money, he said: "You obviously need to blue pound if you are signing players like Le Fondre." We signed him when you had a full allocation mate.
I'd like to think the quality of players we sign will actually improve on the back of Bill Foley's investment, so no, we really don't need the "blue pound" which is probably worth less than 1% of our annual turnover.
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2 minutes ago, Lofarl said:
God Michael Stewart and Alan Preston is such fantastic listening isn’t it?
Stewart is just desperate to stick the boot in. Doesn’t actually listen to anybody who disagrees with him.
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They could have saved about 10 minutes of chat by reading out the full Aberdeen statement.
It’s fairly obvious that they’re close to appointing a manager. Makes sense to me, gives the incoming guy a chance to review the squad.
All getting they’re knickers into a twist.
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I’m not for a second thinking that as a result of this we are suddenly going to turn into “The third force” in Scotland, and success is guaranteed on the back of it, that’s fairytale stuff.
BUT, it all sounds positive to me; No debt, no loans from Foley, all sustainable.
We retain controlling interest and Foley will likely never become majority shareholder.
Sounds like Foley genuinely loves football and views this as an exciting opportunity (obviously there are benefits for Bournemouth too)
Blind faith maybe, but bring it on.
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40 minutes ago, Tommy Tappin said:
It was only ever going this way.
Best quote tonight was the explanation of being in a network not a club foodchain.
'We sign who we want, we play who we want, we sell to who we want'Certain people on this site won’t like to hear that.
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32 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:
HSL are voting against the Foley proposal.
I don’t think their vote was about voting for or against the proposal, rather the right for HSL to have the option to buy shares in the upcoming issue because Hibs are asking all shareholders to give up pre-emotion rights at the AGM till February, hopefully that makes sense?
Either way it’s a protest vote and I believe it’s more about how the investment has been presented rather than the investment itself.
At the end of the day it’s a small amount of Hibs fans, whether the majority feel the same way I’m not sure.
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Correct or not, does VAR intervene if that happens at the other end of the park in the last minute?
That's where the frustration lies for me.
That and the fact we didn't take our chances against a piss poor Celtic team.
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10 minutes ago, Leith Green said:
He didnt miss the point, he is the P&B golf club bore and must have the last word......even though you are 100% right.
I think he posts more about us than he does his own team.
Can’t confirm because I don’t look at their thread as I am not obsessed or remotely arsed.
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Don’t get this at all.
Interim basis again, if he does well will he get it permanently?
Does he actually fit what they’re looking for or what the squad needs?
Or are they just going for him because he’s a big name and football fans love him thanks to some memes?
It should be box office though.
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3 minutes ago, Tommy Tappin said:
Talk of these two in today:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nectarios_Triantis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_BevanWith McKirdy going out on loan.
Both young and right-footed which worries me slightly. Would prefer some experience and someone left sided.
At this stage though cannot be fussy for centre backs.
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11 hours ago, VincentGuerin said:
The concerns were outlined on the Hibs thread a couple of weeks ago. Lots of unanswered questions about the eventual stake to be held, the level of influence and the extent to which Hibs will control their own football operation, Hibs' obligations in terms of taking (and playing) players, Hibs' obligations in terms of providing players, Hibs' ability to get out of this if they decide or discover it's not good for them. The P&B Hibbies (and Hibbies in general) just start going on about YAM FEAR etc, but they're all valid concerns.
So far Foley has basically said, "it's all cool, trust me". And Hibs' fans have said OK. It's a minority stake for now, but do you really believe the Gordons are keen to hang around for years? Why would Foley stop at a small stake if he's serious about this? This level of investment doesn't stack up, as outlined above.
And that's without the discussion about what this means for Hibs' status and identity, which their fans seem remarkably keen to just dismiss. That's why we're getting this parroted line from Hibs fans that "we're all feeder clubs anyway!". It's a false equivelance, and I think it's quite interesting that Hibs fans are so meekly accepting this. Let's be very clear; the other clubs in Scotland are not feeder clubs.
I've outlined all these things before, and Hibs fans have dismissed them without really engaging with them or seeming to actually know the answer to any of the questions. That's your right.
I'm quite sure that were this Hearts and not Hibs entering into this agreement, the P&B Hibbies would be making a lot of the points I'm making. If it were Hearts, my view of it would be exactly the same as it is with Hibs.
It is a minority stake. Both the Gordon's and Foley have stated that there is no intention for anything more at this stage or the future. Plus, the SFA rules would block a majority take over, the only reason this has been approved is because it is a minority stake.
You are making up hypothetical situations in your head and trying to tell Hibs fans that they should be concerned about them, seek help.
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15 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:
Monty won’t be going anywhere anytime soon unless we lose to Inverness in the cup and are in a relegation battle by April.
Most of this squad won’t be here this summer and we’ll see a totally different squad next season.
Not sure how much longer I can watch that system.
He surely has to adapt though, otherwise we will finish bottom 6.
Still a half chance of qualifying for Europe if he can make it work.
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2 hours ago, Sarto Mutiny said:
Out of curiosity, how has Dylan Levitt been for you guys? Haven't seen much of Hibs this season due to being in Championship purgatory
Another one who comes to Hibs and looks shite, destroying his confidence in the mean time.
Starting to think it is a we problem.
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1 hour ago, Hoose Rice said:
We are close to signing James McCarthy.
Really? I would be surprised. Doesn't fit the style Monty has spoken about and could we afford his wages?
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33 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said:
Can we not sign a couple of fucking players please Hibs? Even Ian Gordon's football manager pile of shite was more exciting than this pish.
Everything about the footballing side of the club is boring and stale atm.
Yup. So, so dull from top to bottom.
Unless we have signings lined up I can't imagine Foley's investment will make an immediate impact either. Feels like we are just sleepwalking till the end of the season.
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No reaction from the grounds today? Celtic live commentary on both BBC Scotland and Extra.
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12 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:
I've never said he'll want Hibs to be bad. I'm saying Hibs are locking themselves into a situation where they are at best third in the priority list. And it remains to be seen how easy it is for them to get out of it. The dangers are obvious, and the difference between Hibs and Lorient is obvious. People are just choosing to ignore it.
Seen a few people hitting out with this "we're feeder clubs anyway" rubbish. There's the obvious point that this removes the club's choice, which is a material difference in the current situation (see the McGinn deal), but I also just fundamentally disagree with you about the nature of the club's identity.
I wouldn't want my club being structurally subserviant to another one. This makes Hibs just that. I think more of their fans will be uncomfortable with that than will say it out loud online.
If Man City bought into Hearts, I'd never go back. You can believe it or disbelieve it, but it's consistent the stance on fitba I hold in pretty much all areas of the game.
Hibs are at best third in the priority list when it comes to transfer dealings with large clubs in Europe anyway.
Reality is the outwith the old firm in Scotland the rest of us are so far down the priority list we are at risk of fading into football obscurity.
Our whole game up here exists to prop them up basically everything involves around them.
Truth be told post covid and VAR I have found myself rapidly falling out of love with Scottish football (think I have saw yourself state similar), this investment genuinely excites me as a fan, how can that possibly be a bad thing?
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Just now, VincentGuerin said:
That's not mental gymnastics, but ok.
And I'd dispute your point. I think what I've pointed out is a logical conclusion of this type of deal.
As for your point about the Hibs board requiring my expertise, I think you misunderstand their motivations. I'd imagine the Gordons will have the call on this. Their motivation is not the same as yours as a fan. They want a return on their father's investment. Hibs' long-term future is less relevant to them.
As a fan, you should be asking more questions and doing less cheerleading.
Making up fictional situations about Bournemouth getting a CB for free from Lorient before selling to PSG for £20m, please point me the way of an example of this ever happening.
You know the Gordon's motivations now? They want to see through their fathers ambitions, if that involves getting a minority stake from a billionaire who will invest in recruitment so be it.
Foley initially expressed interest in a Scottish team not to prop up Bournemouth but to challenge the Old Firm and regularly qualify for Europe, doesn't sound bad to me. If somewhere along the way we have to sell a player to Bournemouth (who if he is good enough to play in the Premier League we would be losing anyway) I am sure we fans will be more than happy if the other other promises are fulfilled.
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2 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:
Curious as to what you mean by mental gymnastics.
In what sense have I been inconsistent?
You are making things up based on pure fiction, or your understanding of things (which doesn't appear very educated) through your maroon tinted glasses.
You are going to be one of the top posters if you keep this up, if you are slightly nervous about your rivals getting additional investment whilst you are stuck scrounging off your fans just say so.
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I really hope the board takes @VincentGuerin's comments on before going through with this deal, thanks to him I am now petrified off additional investment from an American billionaire.
The mental gymnastics twinned with utter head loss and self delusion has been a joy to behold.
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The Hibernian Thread
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Pretty bleak that their last ever home appearance will be in front of a half empty Easter Road during a midweek game to Motherwell.
I am hardly Hanlon's biggest fan, but I think Montgomery's record would look slightly better if he had played more often.