Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

[Shades75]

No, it was intentional - nothing rogue about it.

Are you done talking about Powar, then? Is his hypocrisy and shame a step too far for even your flexible standards?

Again, then what is it you're implying with the "h"?

Who is Powar?

[Bendarroch]

everybody else kept their tax affairs in proper order..........

Aye, right ye are.

FFS!

[Bendarroch]

Again, then what is it you're implying with the "h"?

Who is Powar?

There is no implication in the 'h' ffs. It's a piss-take that you like to get yer kecks in a twist over. An 'h' that many plastics love themselves. Hhibs - as everyone surely knows - are plastics without the bus fare.

And Powar is a director at Football Against Racism in Europe / FARE - the same guy slammed for using racist language and then point-blank refusing to answer those charges against him. Fare, of course, are the organisation you were prattling on about when asking why their loyalties might be important.

[Ken Fitlike]

Aye, right ye are.

FFS!

I noticed the writer was upset about tax evasion - but could not find a single reference to any other club but Rangers.

maybe because the article was about Rangers / Sevco / The Rangers / Govan Zombies.

and even if other clubs had HMRC issues - they would be nowhere near the 'off the radar' scale of Rangers 'cheating years'

It just occured to me that most of your posts are so fruitloop bonkers, that I suspect you may be a parody double agent of the Celtic persuasion whose task is to discredit Rangers support by creating the 'lunacy as standard' impression.

it's 'Bhendarroch' really, isn't it?

rumbled.

[wunfellaff]

Sevco rail I tell ye !!!

[Bendarroch]

maybe because the article was about Rangers / Sevco / The Rangers / Govan Zombies.

and even if other clubs had HMRC issues - they would be nowhere near the 'off the radar' scale of Rangers 'cheating years'

It just occured to me that most of your posts are so fruitloop bonkers, that I suspect you may be a parody double agent of the Celtic persuasion whose task is to discredit Rangers support by creating the 'lunacy as standard' impression.

it's 'Bhendarroch' really, isn't it?

rumbled.

The woman who doesn't mind where her pay-cheque hails from said: "Rather than acknowledge the extent of the damage caused by this sorry episode to Scottish football – and society, remember that the taxman was left out of pocket, as were a number of public services"

Naw, she's most definitely upset that the tax-man is hurting. It's a real pity she didn't say: "Think of the hospitals."

And, whit's that - an Ahbergreen supporter trying to point the finger at love for the plastics? After your club so recently saved their neck whilst sucking Liewell's boaby?

[Ken Fitlike]

The woman who doesn't mind where her pay-cheque hails from said: "Rather than acknowledge the extent of the damage caused by this sorry episode to Scottish football – and society, remember that the taxman was left out of pocket, as were a number of public services"

Naw, she's most definitely upset that the tax-man is hurting. It's a real pity she didn't say: "Think of the hospitals."

And, whit's that - an Ahbergreen supporter trying to point the finger at love for the plastics? After your club so recently saved their neck whilst sucking Liewell's boaby?

whatever. I'm sure you know wtf you are burbling on about.

Bzzzzzzt!

Homer touches the power lines again.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

So, Bendarroch, that's Hhibs, Ahbergreen, Dundee Hibernian - any more? You might want to stop and think for a wee minute before going all the way down this particular route.

According to Wiki (aye, I know), less than 1% of Scots claim Irish descent. The number of Catholics is less than 16%. Are you seriously trying to tell us that they have some sort of undue influence in the affairs of Scotland?

If you weren't so fucking blinkered, you may be able to draw parallels with a little-known period in mid-20th Century Europe, where an ethno-religious minority was blamed for all the ills which had befallen a self-proclaimed "Master Race". A "Master Race" which had driven itself to the edge of extinction by its attempts to dominate Europe.

And don't you fucking dare call Godwin on me - it's not the first, nor do I believe it will be the last time your lot's behaviour rightly attracts this kind of comparison.

[Bendarroch]

whatever.

Stunning comeback - to be expected from dholly these days.

Whatever? FFS!

[Bendarroch]

The number of Catholics is less than 16%. Are you seriously trying to tell us that they have some sort of undue influence in the affairs of Scotland?

If you weren't so fucking blinkered, you may be able to draw parallels with a little-known period in mid-20th Century Europe, where an ethno-religious minority was blamed for all the ills which had befallen a self-proclaimed "Master Race". A "Master Race" which had driven itself to the edge of extinction by its attempts to dominate Europe.

And don't you fucking dare call Godwin on me - it's not the first, nor do I believe it will be the last time your lot's behaviour rightly attracts this kind of comparison.

The board WKR (© Dhensebhore) introduces imaginary parallels with a 'master race'. No reason for it, no rationale for the stinking-thinking - just runs with it for reasons best known to himself. And perhaps those select few who 'take him seriously.

Godwin it is, then. It has to be.

By the way - where did I mention anything about '16%' and their 'some sort of undue influence'?

Oh, hold on, that's right - I didn't mention it at all. Not anywhere at anytime.

WKR right enough.

[Ken Fitlike]

Stunning comeback - to be expected from dholly these days.

Whatever? FFS!

not even a comeback. Just ackowledgement that you posted some of your routine orc w**k that isn't even worth trying to make any sense of.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

So, Bendarroch, that's Hhibs, Ahbergreen, Dundee Hibernian - any more? You might want to stop and think for a wee minute before going all the way down this particular route.

According to Wiki (aye, I know), less than 1% of Scots claim Irish descent. The number of Catholics is less than 16%. Are you seriously trying to tell us that they have some sort of undue influence in the affairs of Scotland?

If you weren't so fucking blinkered, you may be able to draw parallels with a little-known period in mid-20th Century Europe, where an ethno-religious minority was blamed for all the ills which had befallen a self-proclaimed "Master Race". A "Master Race" which had driven itself to the edge of extinction by its attempts to dominate Europe.

And don't you fucking dare call Godwin on me - it's not the first, nor do I believe it will be the last time your lot's behaviour rightly attracts this kind of comparison.

The board WKR (© Dhensebhore) introduces imaginary parallels with a 'master race'. No reason for it, no rationale for the stinking-thinking - just runs with it for reasons best known to himself. And perhaps those select few who 'take him seriously.

Godwin it is, then. It has to be.

By the way - where did I mention anything about '16%' and their 'some sort of undue influence'?

Oh, hold on, that's right - I didn't mention it at all. Not anywhere at anytime.

WKR right enough.

Is there any reason - any reason that makes any kind of sense - why, having taken the trouble to quote my post, you edited out the part in bold? Did you think no-one would notice your selective-quoting policy (cherry-picking to you, stupid) when the original post is directly above?

Stupid, mindless, vile little bigot.

[wunfellaff]

The Record.......

Charles Green on the backfoot for first time as fans are slow on uptake of Gers shares

17 Dec 2012 00:01

DESPITE claims he could earn the club up to £22m buy selling shares to Rangers fans, Charles Green may have to amend his target as many supporters struggle - or refuse - to stump up the cash.

Charles Green waves to the Rangers fans ahead of their game against Montrose.

THERE’S a touch of the Boycotts about Charles Green. And it has nothing to do with not taking tickets for Tannadice.

For six months this eccentric, torn-faced Yorkshireman has been strutting around Scottish football, smashing almost everything and everyone for six.

His aggressive, sleeves-rolled-up batting style has been fun to watch and, at times, pretty spectacular too.

Somehow, and in almost no time at all, Green has won over the hearts and minds of a support which at first could not have been more suspicious of him had he pitched up at Ibrox wearing Craig Whyte’s old pointy shoes.

His straight-talking charm offensive has been a thing of beauty and those same fans now have no problem at all with the fact that, by tomorrow, Green will have earned himself a small fortune from their club. Maybe even as much as £3.5million. That’s his reward for riding to their rescue.

Also, it must be said, when it was announced only 10 or so days ago that he had secured £17m worth of reasonably blue chip institutional investment in his planned flotation, many a flat cap was doffed in Green’s direction. This was arguably an even more impressive success than his snake charming act on the masses.

But – and you knew there was a “but” coming – at some point in the next 24 hours Green may be forced on to the back foot for the first time. A lot less bullish than before. Maybe even a little sheepish, depending on the extent of the damage.

Those same supporters now eating out of the palm of his hand have only until 1pm tomorrow to make good on their promises to buy shares in Green’s Rangers. To put their money where their mouths were a few months ago when around £22m was pledged in the online land of lah-de-dah.

If ever there was proof of the dangers of taking the internet’s word for it, then this is surely it. Because, as things stood over the weekend, the total stumped up by these supporters was closer to £2m than £22m. Maybe not even that much.

A total of £10m worth of shares was ring-fenced by Green for fans. But the word from those who know inside Ibrox yesterday was that the uptake has been slow.

The exact numbers are blurry, not least because sales have picked up slightly over the last 72 hours but, even so, the best Green can hope for now is to shift half of the £10m he set aside.

In fact, the truth is Rangers will be delighted to break through the £4m barrier in the final few hours of trading. So, unless there is a late stampede to hand over bundles of £500s – a week before Christmas – Green will be left with quite a significant hole in his plans. And someone, somewhere will have badly miscalculated.

It’s too easy to blame the fans for failing to follow through with their cash pledges, which came in the form of registered interest. The suspicion is many pledges may have been made by cunning rival fans as a wind-up. You know the kind of thing.

“Yes, the name’s Lennon.”

“First name?”

“Eh, Niall. And I’m good for 20 grand ma man.”

“Yaldi!”

Others may well have been genuine and full of good intentions at the time but baulked when it came to coughing up the cash. Or when it was time to tell the missus to buy a smaller turkey this year. Or a pack of chicken dippers.

Yes, with hindsight, Green may well be wishing now that he had not chosen to launch this issue in December, in the middle of a recession. He may also be thinking he was asking for too much when he set the minimum asking price at a monkey. Now I’m no Lord Sugar but wasn’t that all rather bleeding obvious?

These same supporters, remember, have already been paying hand over fist to keep their club alive since all its troubles began to crystallise at the start of a year that will go down in history as Rangers’ annus horribilis. That’s Latin for Craig Whyte.

Also, Green may have blundered on TV last week by apparently stressing there was very little need for the club’s fans to dig deep. He said unsold shares would be quickly gobbled up by his institutional investors, who wanted to plough around £25m into the club but were scaled back to £17m to satisfy demand from fans. “If there’s any left over I’ll even buy ’em myself,” was how Green put it.

But this may have backfired on him because, if anything, it allowed fans to feel as if their larger-than-life chief executive had it all covered.

When 10,000 Celtic supporters raised £9m between them in 1995, they were doing it to save their club. That was the message from Fergus McCann and the response was quite staggering.

If Rangers supporters fall way short of that kind of sum, they can expect to be told about it by their neighbours. Over and over.

And no, Green won’t be there with his cheque book to make up the difference. He’s not here to spend his own money. He prefer others to spend for him.

So now, barring a late and intense flurry of investment from supporters today and tomorrow, he’s going to be left with a whole load of unwanted shares on his office desk and a sizeable chunk missing from his budget.

He had better hope his assembled squad of big-money backers in London are indeed prepared to pick up the slack to the tune of up to £7m or suddenly, what had been shaping up as a major success story could become a minor source of embarrassment.

[Happy Buddie]

Charles Green on the backfoot for first time as fans are slow on uptake of Gers shares

17 Dec 2012 00:01

DESPITE claims he could earn the club up to £22m buy selling shares to Rangers fans, Charles Green may have to amend his target as many supporters struggle - or refuse - to stump up the cash.

THERE'S a touch of the Boycotts about Charles Green. And it has nothing to do with not taking tickets for Tannadice.For six months this eccentric, torn-faced Yorkshireman has been strutting around Scottish football, smashing almost everything and everyone for six.

His aggressive, sleeves-rolled-up batting style has been fun to watch and, at times, pretty spectacular too.

Somehow, and in almost no time at all, Green has won over the hearts and minds of a support which at first could not have been more suspicious of him had he pitched up at Ibrox wearing Craig Whyte's old pointy shoes.

His straight-talking charm offensive bullying has been a thing of beauty (you are a brown-nosing b*****d, Keith) and those same fans now have no problem at all with the fact that, by tomorrow, Green will have earned himself a small fortune from their club. Maybe even as much as £3.5million. That's his reward for riding to their rescue.

Also, it must be said, when it was announced only 10 or so days ago that he had secured £17m worth of reasonably blue chip institutional investment in his planned flotation, many a flat cap was doffed in Green's direction. This was arguably an even more impressive success than his snake charming act on the masses.

But and you knew there was a "but" coming at some point in the next 24 hours Green may be forced on to the back foot for the first time. A lot less bullish than before. Maybe even a little sheepish, depending on the extent of the damage.

Those same supporters now eating out of the palm of his hand have only until 1pm tomorrow to make good on their promises to buy shares in Green's Rangers. To put their money where their mouths were a few months ago when around £22m was pledged in the online land of lah-de-dah.

If ever there was proof of the dangers of taking the internet's word for it, then this is surely it. Because, as things stood over the weekend, the total stumped up by these supporters was closer to £2m than £22m. Maybe not even that much.

A total of £10m worth of shares was ring-fenced by Green for fans. But the word from those who know inside Ibrox yesterday was that the uptake has been slow.

The exact numbers are blurry, not least because sales have picked up slightly over the last 72 hours but, even so, the best Green can hope for now is to shift half of the £10m he set aside.

In fact, the truth is Rangers will be delighted to break through the £4m barrier in the final few hours of trading. So, unless there is a late stampede to hand over bundles of £500s a week before Christmas Green will be left with quite a significant hole in his plans. And someone, somewhere will have badly miscalculated.

It's too easy to blame the fans for failing to follow through with their cash pledges, which came in the form of registered interest. The suspicion is many pledges may have been made by cunning rival fans as a wind-up. You know the kind of thing.

"Yes, the name's Lennon."

"First name?"

"Eh, Niall. And I'm good for 20 grand ma man."

"Yaldi!"

Others may well have been genuine and full of good intentions at the time but baulked when it came to coughing up the cash. Or when it was time to tell the missus to buy a smaller turkey this year. Or a pack of chicken dippers.

Yes, with hindsight, Green may well be wishing now that he had not chosen to launch this issue in December, in the middle of a recession. He may also be thinking he was asking for too much when he set the minimum asking price at a monkey. Now I'm no Lord Sugar but wasn't that all rather bleeding obvious?

These same supporters, remember, have already been paying hand over fist to keep their club alive since all its troubles began to crystallise at the start of a year that will go down in history as Rangers' annus horribilis. That's Latin for Craig Whyte.

Also, Green may have blundered on TV last week by apparently stressing there was very little need for the club's fans to dig deep. He said unsold shares would be quickly gobbled up by his institutional investors, who wanted to plough around £25m into the club but were scaled back to £17m to satisfy demand from fans. "If there's any left over I'll even buy 'em myself," was how Green put it.

But this may have backfired on him because, if anything, it allowed fans to feel as if their larger-than-life chief executive had it all covered.

When 10,000 Celtic supporters raised £9m between them in 1995, they were doing it to save their club. That was the message from Fergus McCann and the response was quite staggering.

If Rangers supporters fall way short of that kind of sum, they can expect to be told about it by their neighbours. Over and over.

And no, Green won't be there with his cheque book to make up the difference. He's not here to spend his own money. He prefer others to spend for him.

So now, barring a late and intense flurry of investment from supporters today and tomorrow, he's going to be left with a whole load of unwanted shares on his office desk and a sizeable chunk missing from his budget.

He had better hope his assembled squad of big-money backers in London are indeed prepared to pick up the slack to the tune of up to £7m or suddenly, what had been shaping up as a major success story could become a minor source of embarrassment.

Apologies if this has been posted already, I can't be arsed checking back.

Oh, aye, would whoever is Niall Lennon on here please own up, it's not big and it's not funny.

Oh, ok, it is .

ETA, I'm not blind, stupid or just plain feckin lazy, Wunfellaff must have potsed 1/2 a second before I did.

Anyhoo, can we all now have a chorus of "We told you so!!!"?

Edited December 17, 2012 by Happy Buddie

[wunfellaff]

When 10,000 Celtic supporters raised £9m between them in 1995, they were doing it to save their club. That was the message from Fergus McCann and the response was quite staggering.

If Rangers supporters fall way short of that kind of sum, they can expect to be told about it by their neighbours. Over and over.

What is £9m worth today with inflation???

[Happy Buddie]

What is £9m worth today with inflation???

Over the last 17 years, inflation has averaged around 2% , maybe 2.5%, giving a gross rise of 40% (at 2%) or 52% (at 2.5%) so worth between £12.6 million and £13.6 million today.

[wunfellaff]

ETA, I'm not blind, stupid or just plain feckin lazy, Wunfellaff must have potsed 1/2 a second before I did.

Anyhoo, can we all now have a chorus of "We told you so!!!"?

Over the last 17 years, inflation has averaged around 2% , maybe 2.5%, giving a gross rise of 40% (at 2%) or 52% (at 2.5%) so worth between £12.6 million and £13.6 million today.

Thanks!

[Bendarroch]

Is there any reason - any reason that makes any kind of sense - why, having taken the trouble to quote my post, you edited out the part in bold? Did you think no-one would notice your selective-quoting policy (cherry-picking to you, stupid) when the original post is directly above?

Stupid, mindless, vile little bigot.

Shooting at the shite in your slurry is what it is - as has been well established many times before.

And, in this instance, your arrant nonsense in 'bold' was well-worthy of being dismissed as an irrelevance. You plucked three teams that I rip the pish out of and decided it was time to flag that up as an indicator of 'a master race'.

Godwin personified.

[Ken Fitlike]

Shooting at the shite in your slurry is what it is - as has been well established many times before.

And, in this instance, your arrant nonsense in 'bold' was well-worthy of being dismissed as an irrelevance. You plucked three teams that I rip the pish out of and decided it was time to flag that up as an indicator of 'a master race'.

Godwin personified.

[Bendarroch]

or refuse to stump up the cash.

Green will have earned himself a small fortune from their club. Maybe even as much as £3.5million.

There's a stack of reasons why I wont invest for Green. His absurd slice of the pie is but one of them.