Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 The point being they dropped advertising being the world's most successful club to just being Scotland's most successful club immediately after the ASA thingy. HTH Are you sure about this? I don't see how there would be a distinction between the claims, beyond the silliness required to claim that a club with one lesser European trophy, is more successful than those with multiple wins of the big one. The ASA thing was about a specific poster advertising season tickets, was it not? The statement on it concerned Scotland's Most Successful Club and the judgement enabled them to keep claiming it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Ahhhh the old lets all join together and shout down any Rangers fan who attempts to debate routine, an old favourite on here. Are we not just putting forward our views? Ergo, debating? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Don't let the truth get in the way of a good old hellish rant. Ted, I feel some guilt about inadvertently taking chat back into continuation territory, but I blame you more. That's been done to death and reviving it was not my intention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottxs Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Ahhhh the old lets all join together and shout down any Rangers fan who attempts to debate routine, an old favourite on here.you don't debate you deflect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I that case you should not have mentioned it in your post, you left yourself wide open to be corrected. You didn't correct me though. You missed the point and got all defensive, while inserting 'h's in my username, before turning on WRK for including wee digs in his post, claiming that it prevented discussion. When this hypocrisy was pointed out of course, you simply ignored it. Poor form, I'd say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Except they did not. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11788/8215523/oldco-rangers-formally-enter-liquidation I think you will find that the records from the court of session will agree with the SKY article, the oldco were still officially in admin in October, by which time the club had new owners and operators. Execpt they did...unles HMRC dont know anything about it?....june....The tax authority says the alternative, liquidation, provides the best opportunity to protect taxpayers, allowing far greater investigation powers into what went wrong at Ibrox in recent years. And it stresses that either way, the sale goes on and Rangers, the team, does too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 You didn't correct me though.You missed the point and got all defensive, while inserting 'h's in my username, before turning on WRK for including wee digs in his post, claiming that it prevented discussion.When this hypocrisy was pointed out of course, you simply ignored it.Poor form, I'd say. Par for the course, I'd say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 And from the UKs biggest Accounting site in JUNE......HMRC has refused Charles Green’s proposed company voluntary arrangement (CVA), which means the Ibrox club will go into liquidation within the next few days. HMRC is reportedly owed more than £21m by the club, thus ensuring the liquidation of Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Funny how coventry got docked points the moment their CVA failed...oh wait thats called entering liquidation. ..http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11710/8851708/coventry-city-deducted-10-points-by-football-league-after-going-into-liquidation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelegendthatis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Great to rerun all the stages Rangers have gone through from big and wee tax cases, Murray fleeing the scene of the crime, Whyte with the "millions off the radar", the annihilation of the mainstream media (does anyone remember a guy called Jim Traynor), the sucking up of Rangers legends to whoever they thought had the big money. Dave King flitting across the stage like Banquo the ghost in Macbeth (another Scottish Tragedy). Then Green and his bunch of total charlatans, with administration, liquidation, court cases, charges laid, so we end up where we are today. Now the history is out of the way....let's look forward. When does Durrant get totally bumped? What can they base it on? Being pissed at work? Accessing porn on the PC used for tactical analysis? How can they get shot of Ally on the cheap? How much humiliation can McDowall take by being told to do this or that, before he walks out the door? Being presented by a range of shorts with skid marks still present will Jimmy the legend walk the plank? Knowing Rangers needs the cash badly will Brentford pay £50k up front for MacLeod, the rest of the million after 25 games or so? Will the legal advisers support Rangers as they continue to trade while insolvent? Which players will be shown the door in January? Will the football agents kick up a stushie through the red tops when they see their 'clients' no longer as a gravy train for them. I am sure Tedi and Benny can give us the inside track on these important questions. Just read the tribute to Jimmy Bell http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gordon-parks-jimmys-last-kitman-4882368 Who is this Gordon Parks anyway? Surely not a real person, and definitely not a journalist. Edited December 30, 2014 by thelegendthatis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Oh no you don't 'The wording means that any old club/new club debate is also an irrelevance' you were referring to the wording of the rules here I take it? The SFA will impose a 25 point penalty as they believe that the club is the same but the operator is different...they are clearly separating them....it is very relevant, this is what I corrected you on....you also contradicted yourself when you agreed with this as you have previously stated you do not believe in the separation. The tedious continuity debate which rages on here is an irrelevance because, as I've said many times, those in charge of imposing penalties consider the club to be the same one. I do consider the separation to be a contorted nonsense that insults the intelligence, which is why I consider any continuation to not be seamless. My view on this, much like your own however, is not relevant as those in charge have decreed what must happen should Rangers enter administration shortly. My frustration came from reading the thread and watching Snafu and others debating what the penalty would be. It was therefore a relief to find definitive word then offered. My observation was not to do with continuation - indeed it was to say that such debate on here didn't matter. You however, chose to be a bit of a tool about it, which is a pity, given that you claim to enjoy discussion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 it is a matter of public record, HMRC were only spelling out the process ... the oldco were in administration until October liquidation did not formally start until the court of session granted it. Also HMRC said 'Moreover the liquidation route does not prejudice the proposed sale of the club' so yes HMRC confirmed that the club was sold to new owners. Coventry were docked points for entering liquidation ..the moment the cva failed ..not months after when a judge signed it off. Rangers weren't because they died. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby82 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 After Lewis McLeod to Brentford Ian Black will be next out the door as he is joining Aberdeen http://www.afc.co.uk/mobile/news/5151.php 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I can always tell when you are irritated Mhonkey, first step in hiding it more would be to stop being a complete dick and cut out the petty insults, I also do not believe you are confused about what side of the debate you sit on, especially since you contradict that falsehood daily. You're right - I am irritated. If that represents some sort of triumph for you, congratulations. I'm not confused about where I stand, or sit at all, so not sure what you're on about there either. Not at your best tonight old chum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Coventry were liquidated but are not a new club? how does that work? is it because they are not Rangers? Rangers were being ran by new owners by the time that liquidation happened....in October. Heres how it works...now pay attention....Coventrys new owners paid the CVA rate to their creditors.... They were also docked points in August 13 , 10 months before a Judge approved Liquidation. Back to the drawing board son. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 It's amusing seeing The Rangers' fans in their various states of distress, Tedi is still raging and biting at every piece of bait laid in front of him, 8 is 'comfortably numb' and on the verge of walking away and Beeny, well Beeny has been round the twist and gibbering shite since his tear stained resignation when the CVA failed and he realised his club was dead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Coventry were liquidated but are not a new club? how does that work? is it because they are not Rangers? Rangers were being ran by new owners by the time that liquidation happened....in October. Why do you do this ?, why do you keep applying English clubs to a Scottish predicament ffs ??? The question you should be asking is ?, why were Rangers treated differently than Gretna or Airdrieonians who suffered the exact same fate as Rangers ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Only yourself to blame for that I am afraid. I've only myself to blame for you not being at your best? Ok. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdrockfromtheSon Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 You're right - I am irritated. If that represents some sort of triumph for you, congratulations. I'm not confused about where I stand, or sit at all, so not sure what you're on about there either. Not at your best tonight old chum. He insults you by calling you a dick, and puts another H in your pseudonym, and you call him "CHUM". You're a better, more patient gentleman than I could ever be. Good on you for rising above these insults. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Mhonkhey is distressed, he just admitted it. The King is also spitting insults. I am distressed at this daft joystick I got for Christmas, trying to set it up is a blooming nightmare, the game was easier to play with the old mouse and keyboard, still I will persevere...I am good at that. Aye, nice attempt at hiding it. Away and play with your joystick instead of biting at continuation taunts, if you are not lying again ;p . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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