Fife Saint Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Still no constitution or committee mandate for the fabled 'club'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlantern Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_execution 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurcher Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 A quick read tells us The statement mentions the use of Celtics lawyers for the inverstigation .. The hostility of certain of certain SPL teams in making demands. The SPL have known about this for nearly 2 years anf tried to do various dodgy deals to reach an agreement. Doncaster stated that they were not going to strip titles yet this suddenly changed - why? How independent is the SPL's commission? The SFA felt it wise to wait until the EBT tribunal was concluded Not the only the team to use EBT's Haha that's dog whistle stuff at its best, youse all read that and hear whispering of (f*nian conspiracy) between the lines, it would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetically effective, just look at the reaction from the sevco eejits for proof Sevco are now worse than Celtic ever were with the paranoid conspiracy crap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman65 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Wonder what the value of an SPL title is then maybe Motherwell could try putting their 1991 Scottish Cup title up for sale and see what they could get for it. Look forward to seeing how they are valued in the accounts of the new Rangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 The SFA did investigate him and his backers and gave them a full bill of health, it was part and parcel of getting membership. Clown. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Another Sevco blatant lie, not even misinformation, but a LIE. The fit and proper person shiz was conducted by D+P whose word was taken that due diligence had been done. The SFA are required to see that it was done, and D+P said that they had. Chucky seems to be grandstanding to get mugs to buy into the share issue, but it is looking more likely that they wont last that long. Last income from the part payment S/T's this month, and then the cash runs out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 And have you a list of such clubs, perchance? Just that I can't remember any other clubs cheating in quite so many ways simultaneously, then being allowed to carry on as if nothing had happened. Seriously, I'd like to know. Middlesbrough,Charlton,SCC Napoli,AFC Fiorentina,Racing Club De Strasbourg,five clubs that have all went through the same procedure as Rangers in that the old company was liquidated,assets bought by new company and full recognition of the historical timeline of each club recognised by the relevant FAs and UEFA. Absolutely nothing to do with allegations of cheating applies to the historical timeline. The transference of the relevant FA Membership is what matters,so as this recognition applies to these clubs it also applies to Rangers under UEFA membership The precedents have been set long ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 © KDS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman65 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Middlesbrough,Charlton,SCC Napoli,AFC Fiorentina,Racing Club De Strasbourg,five clubs that have all went through the same procedure as Rangers in that the old company was liquidated,assets bought by new company and full recognition of the historical timeline of each club recognised by the relevant FAs and UEFA. Absolutely nothing to do with allegations of cheating applies to the historical timeline. The transference of the relevant FA Membership is what matters,so as this recognition applies to these clubs it also applies to Rangers under UEFA membership The precedents have been set long ago. Was the membership transferred though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Was the membership transferred though They were full members of the SPL, they are not full members of the SFL............doesn't look like it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 They were full members of the SPL, they are not full members of the SFL............doesn't look like it It's the SFA Membership that's the relevant one. That was transferred from old company to new company on 3rd August and the SFL have also formally recognised the timeline.My link As do the SPL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic that the two clubs with the biggest supports in the country behave in such a fashion. I agree however the Sevco zombie alliance has now trumped the Celtic paranoia how did that happen. So Green has taken his toys away again. What if the SPL impose a fine and in 3 years time is a condition of entry not that Charlie will worry he'll have rode into the sunset bags filled with orc gold. Charlie is only interested in getting his money plus a nice bonus if that fails then money will be made in other ways. I don't understand that unquestioned loyalty especially given the track record and Green has previous with Sheffield United. The nonsense of we are not in the SPL so we don't have to be apart of any investigation. So where did the information come from and if the Clone Rangers support believe that their previous club did nothing wrong would they not want to present evidence that would clear them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurcher Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Celtic confirmed that it established one EBT scheme in April 2005, which BBC Scotland understands was for the benefit of the Brazilian midfielder Juninho Paulista. The scheme was worth £765,000 but the club did not declare the trust payment to the Scottish Football Association or the Scottish Premier League. The payments made to the trust were declared in Celtic's annual report for 2004/2005, but in 2008 the club became aware of an event giving rise to a potential tax liability which was subsequently paid after agreement with HMRC. The remaining 10 SPL clubs replied and confirmed they had never set up an EBT scheme for any of their employees. Wait a minute, does that mean Hibs won the league in 2004/2005? My mate Gary the hibbee will be most pleased! Who set up the EBT scheme for Rangers and the Murray Group? A former lawyer who advised companies on tax strategy known as Paul Baxendale-Walker. He was struck off the roll of solicitors by a disciplinary tribunal in 2007. Mr Baxendale-Walker is the author of two books on EBT tax strategies and advised Rangers on how to set the scheme up and operate it. He subsequently became involved in the porn industry, producing, directing and acting in films under the name Paul Chaplin. That's fuckin hilarious innit? First he fucked the taxman, then he fucked Rangers, and now he makes a living fucking anyone and everyone! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurcher Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I can't believe i've just read through 3 pages of Dhensebhoy, Sucker, Bairnforever etc still recycling the same old tired propaganda that the majority of their ilk have long since abandoned as a bad joke. ..and yet they still can't figure out why we're getting more press and TV time than their own "more deserving" teams Here Bennet, am I Sucker? If so I am genuinely flattered to have my own wee pet name, I must have really got to you. Really chuffed with that. If not and you meant someone else then please excuse my mistake and carry on with yer nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 It's the SFA Membership that's the relevant one. That was transferred from old company to new company on 3rd August and the SFL have also formally recognised the timeline.My link As do the SPL. Well answer me this as nobody else has........... If a club that went into Administration last season and received a points penalty, starts the new season and that Administration is still ongoing, which it is, why did it not get a points penalty imposed at the start of the new season? It was the club that got the penalty and you cant transfer an Administration. New. Club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 This whole enquiry has been set up in such a way that it could only have 1 final outcome. All the posturing by both sides is just that..Keep their supporters happy but it will be decided in court and that was always going to be the likely outcome. Most Rangers supporters i know still question Charles Green and his motives but i find it strange and not a little worrying that Scottish football supporters have just sat back and watched as this witch hunt has unfolded and never once questioned the motives behind it. I am sick of reading about '£130 million debt'...'You cheated for decades'....'Your players had dual contracts'...and much more brought up time and again despite there being absolutely no basis in fact at this moment of any of that. Personally i just want it all to end and i am sure most football supporters feel the same. I had hoped at the loss of the entire playing squad for next to nothing. Starting again at the bottom tier. Not allowed in European competition for 3 or 4 years. Given a 12 month transfer embargo and given record fines would have been enough for most people but it seems there are still those out there who don't think as a club we have suffered enough. There are people who simply want the club destroyed...Completely killed off. Is that justice? Does that punishment fit the crime? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Here Bennet, am I Sucker? If so I am genuinely flattered to have my own wee pet name, I must have really got to you. Really chuffed with that. If not and you meant someone else then please excuse my mistake and carry on with yer nonsense. But his point ..and yet they still can't figure out why we're getting more press and TV time than their own "more deserving" teams is worthy of a :lol: :lol:For all the coverage they get barely enough cash in a season to pay the cleaners of Ibroke, £72,000 is it not ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Another Sevco blatant lie, not even misinformation, but a LIE. The fit and proper person shiz was conducted by D+P whose word was taken that due diligence had been done. The SFA are required to see that it was done, and D+P said that they had. Chucky seems to be grandstanding to get mugs to buy into the share issue, but it is looking more likely that they wont last that long. Last income from the part payment S/T's this month, and then the cash runs out. The SFA have also been satisfied by information on Sevco's shareholders and business plan. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2180063/Rangers-granted-SFA-membership.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurcher Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Clearly - this depends on the definition of 'honours'. There can be little doubt that the replica trophies and championship flags were sold to Green's Newco. But the abtract concept of an 'honour' - fame or glory - is far looser. And less tangible. Is he really saying that once a league/cup is won, the winning club's company owns that honour... and can sell it... and the governing league / FA can't revoke it either? Have yerself a fucking greeny for that one, and for the fact that yer team won the league in 2004/5 seeing as that was the one year both cheeks were at it with the ddgy registrations, well done! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 So, eh, who are his backers? Surely he would be letting the Loyal know who's behind his grand plan? Or are you still in the huff with the MBB? And where's Bomber? What's happened to the Blue Knights, Where's Wattie? Bill Ng? Bill Miller? A wealthy Chinese man? You poor saps haven't got a clue who's playing with your benefit cheques, or how far up shit creek your club is going to be when they take their profits and f**k off. Still, No Surrender, eh? Ask the SFA Norman, they've been informed .... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2180063/Rangers-granted-SFA-membership.html Also the BBC revealed them a couple of weeks ago 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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