WhiteRoseKillie Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I don't see a different name on the fixture lists or on the SFL's website. SO, same club, same strips, same home ground, same name, And Charlie's talking to BDO. Do you really have no concerns about this? I think you might be about to learn a bit more.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I don't see a different name on the fixture lists or on the SFL's website. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) That because you lot only see what you want to see & dismiss anything else as "timmy propaganda" or some other shite. Take a look yourself: http://www.scottishf...m/club/rangers/ http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/football/third/fixtures/ Edited January 11, 2013 by Bearwithme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Take a look yourself: http://www.scottishf...m/club/rangers/ Does Tedi know you're using his link? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I don't see a different name on the fixture lists or on the SFL's website. ? maybe you forgot the start of the new season in the 3rd division when the orcs went on the rampage when the SFL had your team as "The Rangers FC" which was then changed to "Rangers FC" but the orcs still complained and then to "Rangers". So I've seen 3 changes to your teams name in August last year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) It would be handy if someone had a list of all those creditors.... wire in,leave it to you to score of the ones that have been settled up Rangers administration: Full list of creditors THE full list of creditors is as follows: A K Ray, Ross Hall Hospital, Glasgow £150 ADI UK, Preston £7620 AS St Etienne, France £252,212.39 ASL, East Sussex £2514 Acies Group, Edinburgh £2340 Adrian Coll, Balloch £1600 Alan Duncan, Glasgow £1400 Alexander West Property, Glasgow £2807 Alison Walker TV, Bearsden £600 Alliance Video, Surrey £204 Aon Limited, London £14,151 Arena Imaging, Derby £336 Argyll and Bute Council £406.80 Arsenal Football Club £136,560 Astra Hygiene Supplies, Dumbarton £61.27 Audi Stirling £396.05 Azure Support Services, Macclesfield £523,949.71 Azzurri Scotland, Burnley £34.63 BTWShiells, Belfast £2917.39 Barr Environmental Limited, Cummnock £264 Base Soccer Agency, London £52,560 Bauer Radio Ltd (Radio Clyde) £702 Beyard Services, Beith £5559.60 Bhutta's Newsagents, Glasgow £567.45 Big Think Agency, Glasgow £14,265.60 Blooms UK Limited, Glasgow £70 Brabners, Manchester £12,999 Brentwood Estates, Manchester £42,963.06 Brian Proudfoot, Glasgow £2,802 British Gas £1,562.42 BT £1,292.13 Business Cost Consultants, Glasgow £6,240.60 Business Stream, Edinburgh £9,727.22 CNP Professional, Cheshire £719.96 CRE8, Gloucester £68,406.70 Cairn Financial, London £4,127.60 Cairns & Scott Caterhire, Glasgow £762 Cameron Presentations, Glasgow £8,795.99 Campbell Medical Supplies, Paisley £3,386.73 Camtec, Herts £552 Canniesburn Taxis, Bearsden £269.69 Capital Solutions, Edinburgh £11,423.40 Capito Ltd, Livingston £1,049.69 Carberry's Coaches, Portadown Co Armagh £1,200 Carnival Chaos Production, Edinburgh £672 Carol Govan, Glasgow £600 Cask Productions, Glasgow £1,980 Cask Sports, Glasgow £2,919.60 Catercare Scotland, Stewarton £420 Charlton Chauffeur Drive, Glasgow £792 Chelsea FC £238,345.43 Childcare Vouchers, London £1,143.74 Chilli It, Chester £416.52 Chris Clarke, Kilmarnock £150 Christine Siebelt, Milngavie £1,100 Citrus Office Solutions, Lancashire £4,304.24 City Electrical Factors, Glasgow £215.40 Clyde Productions, Glasgow £180 Coca Cola £10,133.91 Colin Suggett, Sunderland £741.80 Collstream Limited, Derby £5,779.37 Collyer Bristow, London £40,691.22 Colours Agency Glasgow £1,980 Computer Links, Livingston £2,146.32 Computershare Investor Service, Bristol, £23,855.03 Craig Services & Access East Sussex £900 Culture & Sport Glasgow £10,338.96 Daily Record & Sunday Mail £312 DealBureau Commercial Finance, Southend £10,000 Decco Limited, Glasgow £174.72 Dell Computer Corporation, Berkshire £272.85 Direct Medical Imaging, Lancashire £230 Disclosure Scotland £372 Dominique S Byrne, Nuffield Hospital, Glasgow £160 Dr David A S Marshall, Bridge of Weir £160 Dundas & Wilson, Edinburgh £24,027.84 E.ON £8,827.14 Eagle Consulting, Inverness £40 Eagle Couriers, Bathgate £96.60 Eden Springs, Blantyre £644.64 Edinburgh Audi £5,197.08 Electrical Was te Recycling, County Durham £18 Enterprise Rent-a-Car, Stirling £9,000 Events Audio Visual, Clydebank £300 Exchequer Corporate Finance , Surrey £4,000 Executive Hire, Harlow £1,060 FES FM, Stirling £80,874.93 FL Memo, London £116.86 FX Signs, Glasgow £15,546.56 G Media Mangement, Cheltenham £995 G4S, Surrey £295,036.24 GTG Training, Glasgow £396 Gareth Neil Design, Glasgow £3,200 Gerry McGeoch, Glasgow £150 Glasgow Audi £1,041.62 Glasgow City Council £5,000 Glasgow City Council (Council Tax) £2,008.21 Glasgow Leading Attractions (The Willow Tea Rooms) £1,525 Glasgow Taxis £TBC Glencairn Crystal Studio, East Kilbide £354 Gordon McKay, Blackridge £150 HOBS Reprographics, Glasgow £270.15 HSS Hire Service £67.10 Hamilton Brothers, Bishopton £115.56 Hay McKerron Associates, Milngavie £3,600 Hepscott Water Systems, Morpeth £1,190.28 Hrvoje Bojanic Beethoveova, Zagreb, Croatia £2,898.42 Hutchesons Eductational Trust, Glasgow £550 ILC Media, Preston £2,040 IMG Media, Chiswick £180 Impact Signs, Cumbernauld £9,482.79 Integrated Cleaning Management, Hampshire £3,329.19 Iris Chorus Application Software, Devon £5,973.60 Iris Ticketing, Devon £37,210.42 Iron Mountain, Livingston £1,271.16 JCM Business Consulting, Paisley £2,745 JJB Sports £19,390.59 James Gordon (Engineers), Galston £1,437.68 Jewson, Glasgow £930.60 Joe Lennon Picture Framing, Bearsden £840 John Deere, Gloucester £41,191.59 K7X, Ayr, £240 Kalamazoo Secure Solutions, Birmingham £4,017 Keith Hawley, Glasgow £2,600 Kevin Cameron Radio Service, Paisley £600 Kube Networks, Glasgow £7,672.08 L & S Litho, Glasgow £17,035.04 Lothian Power Clean, Larkhall £194.34 LSK Supplies, Glasgow £178.58 Lawrie Furnishings, Paisley £607.20 Limelight Networks , Arizona £2,333.49 Link Seating Limited, Worcestershire £606.98 Loomis UK, Nottingham £2,248.08 Louis Grace Electrical, Glasgow £1,087.84 Lyco Direct Limited , Milton Keynes £2,381.27 MSM Solicitors, Paisley £420 MacGregor Industrial Supplies, Inverness £106.76 Mackinnon Partners, Gourock £200 Manchester City FC £328,248.71 Manea Florin Bucharest £37,500 Mar Hall, Bishopton £5,511.90 Marsh Ltd UK, Norwich £779.10 Martin Dawes, Warrington £654.74 Media House, Glasgow £19,200 MediaCom, Edinburgh £11,544.42 Menzies Hotels, Derbyshire £257.40 Michael Douglas, Glasgow £100 Milngavie Mini Market £413.29 Modular Property Holdings, Glasgow £20,930.22 Motif Promotional Clothing, Glasgow £27.29 Murray Group Holdings, Edinburgh £278,964.30 Nairn Brown (Glasgow) £1,492.50 National Car Rental, Leicester £162.52 Navyblue Design Group, Edinburgh £6,960 Newline Products, Glasgow £7,001 Newsquest (Herald & Times £1,500 Nexo S.A., France £1,799.37 Nicola Young, Glasgow £3,500 Noble Grossart, Edinburgh £18,612 Nordic Scouting, Oslo £20,000 North Glasgow College £11,041.80 OHSS, Edinburgh £234 OfficeFurnitureOnline.co.uk, Dumfires £338.40 Ooyala, California £733.92 Opal Telecom £169.72 Orebro SK £150,000 Oxford Hotels & Inns (Carnoustie) £3,709.96 PR Newswire Europe £300 PTS - Plumbing Trade Supplies, Leicester £30.42 Paramed, Howwood £1,050 Parklands Country Club, Glasgow £500 Parks of Hamilton £7,256 Paton Plant, York £1,450.16 Perform Group, Middlesex £346,097.43 Pineapple Aroundshot, Co Durham £2,316.96 Pineapple Photographic, Co Durham £5,875 Ping Network Solutions, Glasgow £4,020.25 Plum Films, Edinburgh £3,000 Posh Deli, Glasgow £260 Postage by Phone, Essex £510.80 Premier Cash Registers, Glasgow £12,600 Prime Commercial Properties Management, London £10,805.53 Professional Pre-Season Tours (Libero), Glasgow £60,000 Quick Shift Tyre Service, Glasgow £48 R.F.Brown, Hamilton £1,681.44 RBS WorldPay, Cambridge £180.66 RS Components Limited, Northants £204.95 Rangers Lotteries Ltd, Glasgow £105.80 Reed Business Information, Surrey £2,764.80 Renfrewshire Council HQ £108 Restore Scotland, Paisley £579.74 Rigby Taylor Limited, Bolton £10,762.16 Rodgers Sercurity Systems, Glasgow £342.50 Ross Hall Hospital, Glasgow £770.50 Ross Promotional, Glasgow £1,022.88 Royal Mail £3,262.54 SDL Group, Glasgow £1,350 SG World, Cheshire £577.56 SIR Teknologi, West Sussex £TBC SK Rapid, Austria £1,011,763.44 STRI, West Yorkshire £17.28 Saffery Champness, Glasgow £31,028.01 Scot-West Business Forms, Glasgow £749.60 Scotprint, Haddington £7,514 Scotrae Productions, Greenock £17,058.94 Scottish Ambulance Service £8,438.40 Scottish Hydro Electric £62,527.30 Scottish Power £302.44 Search Promotional Merchandise, Buckinghamshire £6,240 Shanks Waste Management, Southampton £122.58 Sharon Agnew, Glasgow £460 Shawfield Timber, Glasgow, £786.24 Shell UK £7,637.94 Shields Land Rover, Glasgow £246.75 Shred-it Glasgow £444 Sign Plus, Dunfermline £2,473.22 Signature Industries, London £1,507.90 Simplewaste Solutions, Clydebank £17,626.26 Sinclair Pharmacy, Glasgow £1,909.79 Slater Menswear , Glasgow £688.31 Solutions.tv, Glasgow £2,652 Sound Acoustic Productions, Glasgow £12,000 Souters Irrigation Services, Cumbernauld £456 Spike Multiedia, Giffnock £5,312.50 Sporting iD, Tyne and Wear £144.70 Sportopps.com, Belfast £150 Sports Alliance, Bury £2,006.65 Sports Revolution, London £5,034.52 Stellar Football, London £72,000 Stirling Fire Protection £1,149.30 Stockline Plastics, Glasgow £258 Strathclyde Police £51,882 Striking Imagery, Cumbernauld £113.51 Stuart MacMorran, Clydebank £422.50 Summit Asset Management, Surrey £70,555.88 Susan Thomson Your Sonsie Face, Glasgow £40 TNT £1,255.39 Tabs FM, London, £1,980 Tellcomm Limited, West Midlands £6,435.89 The Arco Group, Hull £443.43 The Brite Bulb, Bishopbriggs £3,209.64 The Burnbrae, Bearsden £1,403.88 The Business & Property Bureau, Bearsden £7,376 The Business Incentives Group, Glasgow £1,893.60 The City of Edinburgh Council £90 The Fees Company, Edinburgh £118.16 The Financial Times £3,480 The Scottish Football League £3,859.92 The Premier Property Group, Edinburgh £103,210.96 Thistle International Freight, Paisley £128.42 Thistle Storage Equipment, Cumbernauld £140.40 Thomas Cook Sport, Manchester £129,216.56 Ticket Team, Netherlands £873.36 Ticketline Network, Manchester £11,668.67 Trade UK (Screwfix) £77.01 Trident Trust Company, Jersey £40,689.90 UK Fast, Manchester £689.78 US Citta di Palermo, Italy £205,513.04 Umbro £1,756.05 University of the West of Scotland £135 Vodafone £204 Voicescape, Manchester £786.84 William Henderson, Glasgow £275 Yuill & Kyle Solicitors, Glasgow £1,486.80 Celtic FC £40,337 Dundee United FC £65,981.49 Dunfermline Athletic FC £83,370.13 Heart of Midlothian FC £800,000 Inverness Caledonian Thistle FC £39,805 SPL £22,500 SFA 11,089.04 HM Revenue & Customs £14,372,042 Ticketus, London £26,700,000 Debenture Holders (various) £7,736,000 Season Ticket Holders (various) £TBC Employees Various £TBC Edited January 11, 2013 by lithgierose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 ? maybe you forgot the start of the new season in the 3rd division when the orcs went on the rampage when the SFL had your team as "The Rangers FC" which was then changed to "Rangers FC" but the orcs still complained and then to "Rangers". So I've seen 3 changes to your teams name in August last year Ah well, they got it right in the end. But seriously, in any sort of official or mainstream outlet what I see is "Rangers". If anybody sees "The Rangers" all over the place in mainstream or official sources they must be hallucinating. The rantings and trollings of the "you're deid" brigade don't count of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermonkey Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Ah well, they got it right in the end. But seriously, in any sort of official or mainstream outlet what I see is "Rangers". If anybody sees "The Rangers" all over the place in mainstream or official sources they must be hallucinating. The rantings and trollings of the "you're deid" brigade don't count of course. The point is, why need to change the name at any time if it was always the same club ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 The point is, why need to change the name at any time if it was always the same club ? My point is the name wasn't changed, though some seem to think it was. In any case, the club was often referred to as "The Rangers" from the early days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermonkey Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 because it was incorrect? My point is the name wasn't changed, though some seem to think it was. In any case, the club was often referred to as "The Rangers" from the early days. :lol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 and I will gladly take Lord Glennie`s Statement of opinion over a celtic fan on a P & B form who says (foolishly): 'it's fair to say that the legal or judicial system haven't a clue' IDIOT ALERT Tedi is about to go into meltdown ! I have quoted plenty of occasions tonight the truth from Wiki that Rangers became a company in 1899 ! and your response ignore and deflect. And as with the Lord Nimmo roasting that it was not Lord Nimmo's actual words in the commission report we have the very same scenario that those words are not actually Lord Glennies either but were drafted by NUFF n HELPS for Lord Glennie to rule upon and Lord Glennie has just recycled what NUFF n HELPS supplied to him in what Lord Glennie has stated as his opinion and not fact. Last part of your inglorious source of wonder has at the bottom ! [24] I propose to reduce the decision of the Appellate Tribunal and I shall formally remit the matter back to the Appellate Tribunal for reconsideration in light of this Opinion. Once again Lord Glennie quotes it's his opinion Tedi ! that's like me giving an opinion because I believe so but not stating it's fact. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 and why only pay the european clubs debts (today) and stick to fingers up to your own debenture members.and folk trying to make an honest living running shops etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 and why only pay the european clubs debts (today) and stick to fingers up to your own debenture members.and folk trying to make an honest living running shops etc. It's not possible to pay all the debts. Debts have been paid that didn't have to be paid, in law. Isn't it a good thing that football clubs get their debts paid? Look on the bright side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Ah well, they got it right in the end. But seriously, in any sort of official or mainstream outlet what I see is "Rangers". If anybody sees "The Rangers" all over the place in mainstream or official sources they must be hallucinating. The rantings and trollings of the "you're deid" brigade don't count of course. No matter what it's still Rangers reformed from the ashes of the dead club but still the same club ! minus the humongous debt though Can't wait for the first game between Celtic and ? Rangers should be a hoot and a half with all that new banter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 It's not possible to pay all the debts. Debts have been paid that didn't have to be paid, in law. Isn't it a good thing that football clubs get their debts paid? Look on the bright side. aye the debts that make the rangers look honourable to uefa. and fvck the rest.and why would a new company(not team/club) pay an old clubs debt.might be because whyte is still pulling the strings and waiting on chuckie to join him with the shares money.fvckin hope so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Why are you so angry tonight bellbhoy? I'm still waiting for you to say that Wiki has posted lies about Rangers the club becoming a company in 1899 ! and I'm not angry just laughing at you ! A LOT. You'll take Lord Glennies drafted opinion from D&P over a validated source that states Rangers the club became a company 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 IDIOT ALERT Tedi is about to go into meltdown ! I have quoted plenty of occasions tonight the truth from Wiki that Rangers became a company in 1899 ! and your response ignore and deflect. And as with the Lord Nimmo roasting that it was not Lord Nimmo's actual words in the commission report we have the very same scenario that those words are not actually Lord Glennies either but were drafted by NUFF n HELPS for Lord Glennie to rule upon and Lord Glennie has just recycled what NUFF n HELPS supplied to him in what Lord Glennie has stated as his opinion and not fact. Last part of your inglorious source of wonder has at the bottom ! Once again Lord Glennie quotes it's his opinion Tedi ! that's like me giving an opinion because I believe so but not stating it's fact. It's really not like your opinion. A legal "opinion" is not like some random punter's opinion. Lord Glennie was in fact making a ruling that cost Ticketus many millions of pounds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 It's not possible to pay all the debts. Debts have been paid that didn't have to be paid, in law. Isn't it a good thing that football clubs get their debts paid? Look on the bright side. But 20+ Million from the share issue would go a f**k of a long way to paying at least some of them. Not spending daft money on SPL duds to win D3 would have freed up some cash, as well. Shit, even downgrading Charlie Boy to Economy when he flew to spread the word in SpamLand would have cleared Shred-it and Your Sonsie Face, at least. The only reason they've stumped up anything was to cling onto the hope, and I quote, of "getting UEFA and FIFA onside". Now haven't you lot been crowing as to how ALL the authorities already recognise your new club as the same old rangers? So what's to keep onside about? And don't you think it's a bit strange that you're paying another club's debts? What with? The money raised by the share issue in the NEW club? In agreement with the HMRC-appointed liquidators? Jesus, it's long overdue for you lot to stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Saying that, it's fascinating for the rest of us. Do carry on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 It's really not like your opinion. A legal "opinion" is not like some random punter's opinion. Lord Glennie was in fact making a ruling that cost Ticketus many millions of pounds. Tedi's source is when D&P on May 29th 2012 took the SFA to court over the imposed embargo on signing new players and nothing to do with Ticketus BWM. When the club got liquidated then Ticketus lost their money ? actually Ticketus got their money back as it was insured by default but they will be pissed that their premiums went up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Tedi's source is when D&P on May 29th 2012 took the SFA to court over the imposed embargo on signing new players and nothing to do with Ticketus BWM. When the club got liquidated then Ticketus lost their money ? actually Ticketus got their money back as it was insured by default but they will be pissed that their premiums went up Sorry, it was Lord Hodge who made the Ticketus ruling. And he said the same as Lord Glennie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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