Parscelona Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Team Foley wins, Ryback becomes WWE Champ? Team Punk wins, Punk retains? Perhaps, although i honestly think this is just a way for Ryback to pin CM Punk clean, without him losing the title. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quitongo's Left Peg Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Perhaps, although i honestly think this is just a way for Ryback to pin CM Punk clean, without him losing the title. You're probably right. But it would be nice to spice up an otherwise pretty predictable and uninspiring TSSM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Jinder Mahal is one of the best prospects WWE have had in yonks, and he has been utterly and completely fucked by WWE. I've always thought this as well. Despite being a Candian of Indian heritage, he was somehow landed with ye olde evil Arab heel gimmick. Sometimes I'm convinced Vince thinks ethnic minorities are just there for him to have a chuckle at. Drew is a good wrestler, but he is dull as dishwater as well as having a terrible World of Sport era haircut. The antics of his now ex wife certainly didn't help him much either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Predictable teams to be fair for Survivor series. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Was discussing this today and realised something, they could've used this to debut Ambrose. I mean, he did have a small spat with Foley around Mania, didn't he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I've always thought this as well. Despite being a Candian of Indian heritage, he was somehow landed with ye olde evil Arab heel gimmick. Sometimes I'm convinced Vince thinks ethnic minorities are just there for him to have a chuckle at. Drew is a good wrestler, but he is dull as dishwater as well as having a terrible World of Sport era haircut. The antics of his now ex wife certainly didn't help him much either. Sometimes?! Almost everyone who isn't American is given the gimmick of national stereotype. I said almost, not all. Was discussing this today and realised something, they could've used this to debut Ambrose. I mean, he did have a small spat with Foley around Mania, didn't he? He did! It seems Ambrose has been lost since then, unless of course he makes an appearance at SS to cost Foley? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 He did! It seems Ambrose has been lost since then, unless of course he makes an appearance at SS to cost Foley? Foley isn't wrestling and if he was nobody knows/cares who Dean Ambrose is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 He did! It seems Ambrose has been lost since then, unless of course he makes an appearance at SS to cost Foley? I think he's been doing dark matches (not sure if Raw or Smackdown) but I don't think he's even been on NXT. Hopefully they plan on removing Del Rio or Miz, or the hand of God strikes one of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Foley isn't wrestling and if he was nobody knows/cares who Dean Ambrose is. But they would if he was involved in some kind of altercation with Foley during the match (I assume Foley will be ringside) surely? I think he's been doing dark matches (not sure if Raw or Smackdown) but I don't think he's even been on NXT. Hopefully they plan on removing Del Rio or Miz, or the hand of God strikes one of them. He's done a lot of house shows I believe. No idea if he's on NXT or not, as I don't watch it. On the topic of NXT, there are guys who have been there for over two years, like Seth Rollins, whereas guys like Antonio Cesaro breezed through it in a matter of weeks. What's that all about? From alkl accounts there are plenty of great guys in NXT ready to step up. They surely can't be worse than a lot of the shit on the main roster? At the very least they'd be something fresh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 On the topic of NXT, there are guys who have been there for over two years, like Seth Rollins, whereas guys like Antonio Cesaro breezed through it in a matter of weeks. What's that all about? From alkl accounts there are plenty of great guys in NXT ready to step up. They surely can't be worse than a lot of the shit on the main roster? At the very least they'd be something fresh. Have you seen Seth Rollins? Everyone knows Vince loves people who have "the look" and Cesaro fits that. Having said that, it's clear that Cesaro both has the look and is fantastic in the ring. I agree though, they're giving people like Slater and Drew this new sorta push and people like Darren Young and Zack Ryder airtime when they're all pretty gash with NXT full of decent guys. It's not like any of them have any redeeming qualities over the NXT guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I think Seth Rollins is getting the Daniel Bryan and Kaval treatment for daring to win the ROH title before entering the WWE. Although the fact that Cesaro held titles in ROH would suggest that perhaps that may not be quite so accurate. Is Darren Young still employed by WWE?! f**k sake, he's just utterly dire. I've just had a look at the NXT roster. I recognise some of the guys, others I have no idea about (Memo Montenegro?! Haha, who the f**k is this?!), but there are plenty of them. They surely can't be worse than the likes of: Alex Riley Camacho Brodus Clay Curt Hawkins Darren Young David Otunga Drew McIntyre Ezekiel Jackson Great Khali Heath Slater Hunico Jack Swagger Jinder Mahal Johnny Curtis JTG Justin Gabriel Mason Ryan Michael Migilicutty Mark Henry Primo Ryback Tensai Titus O'Neil Trent Baretta Yoshi Tatsu They really should just fire all of the above and promote the NXT roster in their place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Memo Montenegro is Alberto Del Rio's younger brother. Apparently he is dire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Is Darren Young still employed by WWE?! f**k sake, he's just utterly dire. Him and Titus O'Neil are a tag team, The Prime Time Players. They were watchable because they had AW as their manager but he made some "inappropriate" comments while he was on the mic and got fired. Since then, they've been shown up to be boring as f**k. I've just had a look at the NXT roster. I recognise some of the guys, others I have no idea about (Memo Montenegro?! Haha, who the f**k is this?!), but there are plenty of them. They surely can't be worse than the likes of: They really should just fire all of the above and promote the NXT roster in their place. I'd agree with you. I'd keep Otunga, Gabriel and Ryback though. Otunga is a pretty decent character, he should never wrestle unless it's just to be squashed. Gabriel has shown in the past month or so that he can go in the ring, I'm still not sold on his promo skills but he's decent midcard fodder. Ryback is great in the ring, he's awful on the mic though (catchphrases not withstanding). They need to "Heyman him"(trademark forehead7) to mask up that particular weakness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Memo Montenegro is Alberto Del Rio's younger brother. Apparently he is dire. With a name like that, he's pretty much being set up to fail, unless they bring in a character called Sori Serbia to feud with him. Him and Titus O'Neil are a tag team, The Prime Time Players. They were watchable because they had AW as their manager but he made some "inappropriate" comments while he was on the mic and got fired. Since then, they've been shown up to be boring as f**k. I'd agree with you. I'd keep Otunga, Gabriel and Ryback though. Otunga is a pretty decent character, he should never wrestle unless it's just to be squashed. Gabriel has shown in the past month or so that he can go in the ring, I'm still not sold on his promo skills but he's decent midcard fodder. Ryback is great in the ring, he's awful on the mic though (catchphrases not withstanding). They need to "Heyman him"(trademark forehead7) to mask up that particular weakness. I had forgotten about the Prime Time Players. Aye, just shows how much they miss AW. I haven't really seen enough from Otunga and Gabriel to keep them, and I simply don't like Ryback, even though he's clearly quite over at the moment! This just shows how much I skip when I catch up with Raw online, which shows how shit the product currently is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) JTG is still employed by WWE?! I think WWE need to start cutting their roster of some of these guys first before introducing those from NXT. Trim the roster down and work on the characters of the ones who are left rather than have X amount of jobbers. There's a fair few from that list that I would keep but almost all of them would have to change or develop their characters. Riley Brodus Otunga Drew Slater Mahal Gabriel Henry Ryback (doesn't really fall into this category just now tbh) Those are the ones I would keep but they'd probably need a lot of work done to salvage them. Edited November 3, 2012 by Big River 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 JTG is still employed by WWE?! 5 years, 173 days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 JTG had a match on Raw this week and opened the show- going strong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker_d Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Riley Brodus Otunga Drew Slater Mahal Gabriel Henry Ryback (doesn't really fall into this category just now tbh) Those are the ones I would keep but they'd probably need a lot of work done to salvage them. I was at the house show in Nottingham last night and Ryback is an awful awful wrestler. His match with Punk went 18 minutes. 6 minutes was Punks entrance, 6 minutes of stalling and 6 minutes of Punk bumping around the ring to make the big useless lump look as though hes not a useless big lump who was knackered by the end despite doingnext to nothing. Worryingly though the kids in the crowd went crazy for him. Despite this I dont see success long term. Right gimmick, right time, wrong guy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quitongo's Left Peg Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Always like a Raw from the U.K. for the sheer cheesiness and crap jokes Can't wait for the Hydro to open so we can have a Scottish Raw finally! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Always like a Raw from the U.K. for the sheer cheesiness and crap jokes Can't wait for the Hydro to open so we can have a Scottish Raw finally! Black taxi cabs and Santino having a tea party? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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