Wee Bully Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Will it? From my limited understanding of the block grant will budgets being preserved in health and education and increased money for infrastructure not effect the impact on the block grant It specifically says in the article that it does. Doesn't mean the article is right of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryHills Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Will it? From my limited understanding of the block grant will budgets being preserved in health and education and increased money for infrastructure not effect the impact on the block grant No expert, but I think Osbourne was just outlining how he intends to spend south of the border. We could cut the heath budget/education budget (if we wanted as its devolved) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow-sheep Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It specifically says in the article that it does. Doesn't mean the article is right of course. Not in the article you posted, it mentions a 1% cut for the Scottish Office but can't see any mention of the Block Grant My understanding was that the Barnett Formula is in some way related to different Whitehall departments who have no juristiction over Scotland so for example a 10% cut if defence spending wouldn't effect the Grant but a 10% cut in the English Education budget would, but maybe I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Not in the article you posted, it mentions a 1% cut for the Scottish Office but can't see any mention of the Block Grant My understanding was that the Barnett Formula is in some way related to different Whitehall departments who have no juristiction over Scotland so for example a 10% cut if defence spending wouldn't effect the Grant but a 10% cut in the English Education budget would, but maybe I'm wrong. I could be wrong, but my understanding of the Barnett Formula is that spending on English-only services is aggregated, a Scottish equivalent reached and that is then allocated for *all* Scottish-only spending, of which the Scotland Office is a part. Certainly before devolution the Barnet consequentials were administered and spent by the Scottish Office itself. The corrollary of that is that the money used to run the Scotland Office is still part of the Barnett Consequential, but a significant chunk of it is now allocated directly for use by Holyrood. A cut in Scotland Office budgets would, presumably, have an effect on the block grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 There's a wee tantrum going on in twitter tonight. There's a wee 12m clip about debunking unionist myths, was quite a decent wee clip and used clips of the No campaign and the arguments they are using. I think it's National collective that put it up. Anyhoo the No campaign have complained about copyright and it has been removed. Obviously they have never heard of the Streisand effect, as I expect it to resurface and go viral across the Scottish political scene.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's already back - http://t.co/eFhbfOZ6vJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 ...and totally dominating my Twatter feed. Talk about shooting yersel in the foot. A video that would probably have been seen by a few hundred now being discussed by politicians and political commentators alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I just tried to download it from their rapidshare, before it got removed again...and the site traffic has been exhausted for their account! Lots of downloading going on then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I've saved a copy to my Skydrive...just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davi3j Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's already back - http://t.co/eFhbfOZ6vJ That's worth sharing, well done to the people who made that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 My only criticism is no.4. Although I guess it wouldn't have been catchy to point out that we wouldn't have needed to pay for the banks in the first place. I liked no. 1 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambie's Pigeon Feed Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Came accross it on Twitter earlier, this is the kind of thing that should be getting made, personally I think it is a bit too "don't be so stupid and believe their scaremongering" for this stage in the campaign considering most people still do think these things as the Yes campaign haven't got their message out yet but very good nonetheless. The Better Together Twitter feed seems to be suggesting they didn't ask for it to be removed but only for a less than 5 second clip of the public (doesn't say which bit) to be removed, implying they have no problem with the majority of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 They say that they don't want members of the publics images being "misused". Frankly, if members of the public do not want their images used in political debate then they should not have agreed to appear in a political propaganda video for Better Together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 CC ICT Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Roll 'n' sausage. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bojangles Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Just stick one of those black bars over their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicmac Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 It's already back - http://t.co/eFhbfOZ6vJ I'll have to have a look, can't on Ubuntu as flash is problematic. I thought the legal ruling was that if the subject was the 'story' then the legal situation changed. e.g. A news report can show pictures of a company's logo if the company is the object of the report, 'fair use' I think its called. At any rate, I agree, such crass attempt at censorship will surely generate more interest than it would have if left alone. Thanks to those who defended my post in my absence. Yes the poll data given are accurate. I suppose the opinion I voiced, that the Credit Crunch had a real effect on indy support, especially given the u-treatment, is debateable, but I do not think that is such an unusual opinion as to merit the abuse levied. Anyway it is really late, so time to get into my lizard jammies and head off to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The video is on facebook. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=342588272526069 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Here it is again. http://vimeo.com/62205777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 See the bit at the start with the Yes supporter dancing? That was my 40th birthday and that's my wee bit of the campaign! I knew we would be famous at some stage! He was dancing to Slumdog Millionaire btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't particularly like the video; some of the debunking arguments are far too simplistic and there are better arguments against the unionist stance (eg the HBOS and RBS bailout cost v Scottish GDP, it would be better to point out we'd only have had to bailout their banking operations in Scotland and not the whole UK) but regardless, massive own goal from Better Together in trying to get it pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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