Miguel Sanchez Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Why send your kids to a Catholic school if your not Catholic?I'm not catholic. I went to a catholic school. I thought the purpose of going to school was to receive an education. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Video just popped up on my twitter there of a carriage full of men on the Glasgow subway in blue/white and red scarfs and orange blue and white scarfs singing 'we fucking hate Roman Catholics' In this day and age Embarassment Thursday night?Ten minute sash bash on the train we got on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Post it on here https://twitter.com/anthonyadams20/status/604537217013415936 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 https://twitter.com/anthonyadams20/status/604537217013415936 IMO this should be given the same national coverage as the Chelsea incident in Paris. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 I am actually now sitting in the company of a RC English teacher. of course you are champ. Great deflection though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 One just marched by. About 20 people in total, including the folk playing the instruments. All the folk in the fancy dress were old white men. Think there were about 5 folk following it. Absolutely no one was giving a f**k. They're such an irrelevance that there were only about 5 police officers (one who was on a bike). It seemed the marchers just do it to provoke a reaction but, at least around here as far as I could see, no one cares. What a sad, pathetic bunch of bitter irrelevant fools. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 One just marched by. About 20 people in total, including the folk playing the instruments. All the folk in the fancy dress were old white men. Think there were about 5 folk following it. Absolutely no one was giving a f**k. They're such an irrelevance that there were only about 5 police officers (one who was on a bike). It seemed the marchers just do it to provoke a reaction but, at least around here as far as I could see, no one cares. What a sad, pathetic bunch of bitter irrelevant fools. It's attention seeking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The COS is legally responsible for RE in all Non Dom schools in Scotland. Why do these non elected god botherers have so much say in our schools? No idea why anyone would even think this. Religious and Moral Education is the responsibility of Education Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Think the role of the CoS (there is one that is in the relevant legislation) is to inspect the standard of RE in non-denom schools or something like that. The legislation that is in place is almost a century old and reflects a very different Scotland from today's secular post-Christian society. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 If you are being taught in RE that the world came about through creationism how is this reconciled with being taught in Science about evolution? I know RC schools where there is absolutely no way a child would be allowed to write a discursive essay on for example the subject of abortion- I don't believe educational establishments should prohibit what a child can and cant write about. I don't claim this is official policy across al schools, but it has been the case in the only 2 where I know teachers. If you are being taught in RE that the world came about through creationism how is this reconciled with being taught in Science about evolution? I know RC schools where there is absolutely no way a child would be allowed to write a discursive essay on for example the subject of abortion- I don't believe educational establishments should prohibit what a child can and cant write about. I don't claim this is official policy across al schools, but it has been the case in the only 2 where I know teachers.Wit the fuk are u rabbling about?!!!Why would RC school be teaching creationism when Catholics don't believe in it?!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) No idea why anyone would even think this. Religious and Moral Education is the responsibility of Education Scotland.Wrong. The COS is responsible for RO in Non Dom schools.COS website.... .Education issues fall under the remit of the Church and Society Council, and include religious observance in schools, social and moral education and sexual health strategies in education. Edited May 31, 2015 by THE KING 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Meanwhile for those in contact with reality, there is no God up in the sky looking down on us and the differing brands of the Jesus myth continue to be used cynically by some at least as an excuse to keep the proles in the west of Scotland divided. At some point those of a progressive disposition might question whether schemes like Easterhouse and Drumchapel would be the way they are and whether something closer to a Scandinavian social democracy could not have been achieved instead out of all these years of Labour municipal dominance if there wasn't a tribal schism in working class Scottish society and the left hadn't compromised its principles and ditched core socialist notions of secularism to stay on the good side of the RC spiritual hierarchy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Wrong. The COS is responsible for RO in Non Dom schools. COS website.... .Education issues fall under the remit of the Church and Society Council, and include religious observance in schools, social and moral education and sexual health strategies in education. I would suggest that means the Church and Society Council is consulted on these matters, rather than setting the curriculum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 The COS is legally responsible for RE in all Non Dom schools in Scotland. Why do these non elected god botherers have so much say in our schools? No idea why anyone would even think this. Religious and Moral Education is the responsibility of Education Scotland. Wrong. The COS is responsible for RO in Non Dom schools. COS website.... .Education issues fall under the remit of the Church and Society Council, and include religious observance in schools, social and moral education and sexual health strategies in education. OK now you're going from mildly to confused to deliberately obfuscating. Religious and Morel Education (RME) is part of the Curriculum for Excellence and is absolutely within the control of Education Scotland. Religious Observation (RO) is, again, the responsibility of Education Scotland. They issue guidelines to schools - link to here: http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/learningandteaching/thecurriculum/buildingyourcurriculum/curriculumplanning/creatingaplan/religiousobservance/keydocuments/index.asp They suggest school can use chaplains to help with RO, some of whom may well be CoS ministers. There is, though, no requirement to do so. The CoS, of course, want to maintain/increase their presence in schools/education and may well have a department responsible for education. However, your statements were: The COS is legally responsible for RE in all Non Dom schools in Scotland; The COS is responsible for RO in Non Dom schools. You are wrong on both counts.. Both are the responsibility of Education Scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Yes, but the law in this country forbids it. Do you agree with that? The rest regarding schools is nonsense as I know a non Catholic teacher who teaches at a Catholic school. There's no real issue getting a job as a non-Catholic at an RC secondary. It's promotion that is denied. Purely anecdotal, but my atheist mate worked his arse off for 5 years to get experience to be a guidance teacher at n RC school in Lanarkshire. He then finally got an acting post on the understanding that he would require approval from the diocese. It turns out that you can't get approval unless you are RC so the door was shut in his face and the post withdrawn. His school must have known this all along yet let him waste 5 years of his career. Incidentally, his children are all being brought up RC. Getting approval is basically a PC way of saying you must be RC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 OK now you're going from mildly to confused to deliberately obfuscating. Religious and Morel Education (RME) is part of the Curriculum for Excellence and is absolutely within the control of Education Scotland. Religious Observation (RO) is, again, the responsibility of Education Scotland. They issue guidelines to schools - link to here: http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/learningandteaching/thecurriculum/buildingyourcurriculum/curriculumplanning/creatingaplan/religiousobservance/keydocuments/index.asp They suggest school can use chaplains to help with RO, some of whom may well be CoS ministers. There is, though, no requirement to do so. The CoS, of course, want to maintain/increase their presence in schools/education and may well have a department responsible for education. However, your statements were: The COS is legally responsible for RE in all Non Dom schools in Scotland; The COS is responsible for RO in Non Dom schools. You are wrong on both counts.. Both are the responsibility of Education Scotland Since the state assumed responsibility for the provision of school education in 1872 the Church of Scotland has been granted a statutory role as part of the education authority of the day. This privileged position reflects the historical link between schooling and the church. For that reason, if for no other, it is important for church representation on local authority committees with a responsibility for education, to ensure a respected presence across Scotland .. statutory what does that mean? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I would suggest that means the Church and Society Council is consulted on these matters, rather than setting the curriculum. Wrong..they have a massive say in the religous curriculum, their powers have been weakened over the years though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Having attended non-denom schools (admittedly 30 to 45 years ago) my response to that would be what religious curriculum? Any RE I ever got was token at best with a strong hint from the teachers that only looneys actually believed any of it. Any residual role of the CoS should definitely be completely eliminated, but the people who make the most noise about this are usually trying to justify ongoing tribal division in a way that bears little or no correlation with what actually happens in practice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Having attended non-denom schools (admittedly 30 to 45 years ago) my response to that would be what religious curriculum? Any RE I ever got was token at best with a strong hint from the teachers that only looneys actually believed any of it. Any residual role of the CoS should definitely be completely eliminated, but the people who make the most noise about this are usually trying to justify ongoing tribal division in a way that bears little or no correlation with what actually happens in practice. True..its all bullshit but only last year the COS was fighting agaisnt collective worship...they want to stay in control if it. .http://www.humanism-scotland.org.uk/news/in_the_news/update-on-hss--church-of-scotland-agreement/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Wrong..they have a massive say in the religous curriculum, their powers have been weakened over the years though "A massive say" is not the same "as being responsible for ". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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