AberdeenBud Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 500k wasted on policing the pondlife. Shameful. Only 4,500 members but tens of thousands of "supporters". How exactly do you go about "supporting" the LOL? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 500k wasted on policing the pondlife. Shameful. Only 4,500 members but tens of thousands of "supporters". How exactly do you go about "supporting" the LOL? It's a get out claus they've always used, any trouble at marches isn't the fault of the OO, it's the fault of the "hangers on" who follow them when they march. I see they want to march from the East End, that can only be a GIRFUY to you know who 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Moronic to say the least and something that is a clear BoTP, but I'm not convinced (but certainly still open to persuasion) that it's really any more noteworthy in the big scheme of things nowadays than equally moronic songs about zoophilia aimed at Aberdonians when all of the people singing it probably never go anywhere near a church and are motivated by dislike of Celtic rather than anything related to differing views over transubstantiation or something like that. Politicians, who exploit the lingering tribalism, pretend there's still a huge rigid polarisation of Scottish society like there was 50 or 60 years ago, but the reality is that Senga has been marrying Declan, and Siobhan has been marrying Derek in recent decades and there is a younger generation growing up now, who can often easily swing both ways on these things. First ive heard of this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Just remember a motto they use "Where our music is not wanted, we will play it louder" If that isn't attention seeking. I don't know what is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 No one's disputing that FoA is protected, but thanks for that anyway. The ECHR does not commit GCC into letting a bunch of bigoted religious nutters take over the city centre. If Yes campaigners are going to be allowed to meet there in large numbers it basically does, because picking and choosing what to allow rather than applying a blanket ban on health and safety grounds would be a form of discrimination that contravenes FoA. The irony is that it is the SNP and Holyrood that is championing the ECHR right now rather than the Tories and Westminster that very much want to axe it in a UK context, which would open the door to kneejerk populist legislation on this, but our flute playing friends will be of the opinion that they are celebrating the latter's defence of civil and religious freedoms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 I can't believe you're comparing yes campaigners to the Orange Order. If anything the OO are more alike with such organisations as the KKK, would be surprised if the council allowed them to promote hatred against fellow humans based solely on religion and skin colour. It's freedom of speech right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Stray nuke wouldnt go amiss in george square around noon on sat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I can't believe you're comparing yes campaigners to the Orange Order.... The fact that you like one lot and intensely dislike the other has SFA to do with their rights to freedom of assembly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 The fact that you like one lot and intensely dislike the other has SFA to do with their rights to freedom of assembly. Is this you attempting to deflect from your ridiculous comment comparing the Yes campaign and the Orange Order? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Is this you attempting to deflect from your ridiculous comment comparing the Yes campaign and the Orange Order? You obviously didn't understand the comment I made. The exemption to FoA under the ECHR is valid health and safety type considerations. That has to apply to everybody in an even-handed sort of way without picking and choosing, who you like or don't like. If you insist on now repeating over and over again how much you dislike the Orange Order and view them as Scotland's answer to the KKK on you go. I'll only respond further to people, who actually address the point I am making about the manner in which it is actually possible to curtail this stuff when as the SNP very much want but the Tories don't, the ECHR is part of the legal system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hampden Diehard Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 "Orangefest"....I thought this was a Daily Mash spoof. The city centre will grind to a halt as the thousands of hangers-on and anti-Orange hordes look to cause bother whilst the good Orangers go about their business of preaching the word (aye right) followed by face painting and bouncy castles (I kid you not). What a disgrace in this day and age that things like this are allowed in our city, let alone to paralyse the city centre. Expect every brain donor (orange and green) for a trillion miles to zombie-walk into this. If the cultural heritage of Glasgow will be added to by this nonsense, at least punt it out the road of everyone. The City Council deserve their arses kicked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 The fact that you like one lot and intensely dislike the other has SFA to do with their rights to freedom of assembly. First they came for the utter c***s I did not speak up because I am not an utter c**t Then they came for the obnoxious b*****ds I did not speak up because I am not an obnoxious b*****d Then they came for the swivel eyed loons. I did not speak up because I am not a swivel eyed loon. Then they came for the pretentious bourgeois twats And I was screwed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 If Yes campaigners are going to be allowed to meet there in large numbers it basically does, because picking and choosing what to allow rather than applying a blanket ban on health and safety grounds would be a form of discrimination that contravenes FoA. The irony is that it is the SNP and Holyrood that is championing the ECHR right now rather than the Tories and Westminster that very much want to axe it in a UK context, which would open the door to kneejerk populist legislation on this, but our flute playing friends will be of the opinion that they are celebrating the latter's defence of civil and religious freedoms. As already covered, what an utterly ludicrous comparison. An inclusive national political movement ≠ An exclusive sectarian&bigoted religious movement. People or groups who preach hatred and promote division should not been given the support of GCC, tacit or otherwise. Yes, the OO would possibly have grounds for complaint if they were refused permission but GCC could pretty easily claim they are a threat to public order/safety. This smacks of chasing the bigot vote to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) There have been lots of Orange walks in places like West Lothian and Falkirk when the SNP have controlled the local council. It is disingenuous at best to try to portray sanctioning walks as support for them. It is ironic in the extreme that the main obstacle to a populist ban on this stuff, which would very much have been possible under the traditional Westminster system, is something that the SNP is very much championing at the moment (i.e. the ECHR), precisely because it is not part of the traditional Westminster way of doing things that David Cameron wants to go back to where Europe is concerned. Edited June 2, 2015 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintonfan Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Just remember the last time they met in freedom square, surely blythswood square would be more appropriate for the orange order 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Plain for everyone to see who the real bigots are on this thread and not one of them supports the orange order.... Absolutely disgusting intolerance and contempt being shown for a legitimate minority culture. The OO are a anti catholic organisation. Or did you forget that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Plain for everyone to see who the real bigots are on this thread and not one of them supports the orange order.... Absolutely disgusting intolerance and contempt being shown for a legitimate minority culture. Honestly, you're a raging *** aren't you? An Airdrie fan without the bus fare... Have fun at orangefest lad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Rice Half Chips Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Will there be any gay rights speakers at the orange fest? What's the orange order's position on that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Will there be any gay rights speakers at the orange fest? What's the orange order's position on that? Apparently everyone is invited to the festival, regardless of religion. I think that's a nice offer, so I'll be the first to say if any member of the OO would like to attend mass with me on the Sunday, you're more than welcome. It's only fair you get to see what the catholic faith is all about after all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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