HardyBamboo Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Here's some more. Obviously Salmond and Swinney were took busy clapping like seals on the sidelines to perform the level of economic analysis some newspaper hacks managed. Daily Mail - Aug 2007 :- "Given the demolition in bank share prices investors may well wonder if this, top-of-the-market deal, is worth doing at all." Daily Telegraph - July 2007 :- "Of all the deals we've heard about potentially collapsing because of these jittery markets, surely the pursuit of ABN Amro should be at the top" Guardian - Aug 2007 :- "By rights, RBS shareholders should be getting nervous about the ABN Amro deal. RBS's biggest slice of the Dutch pie would be the wholesale banking unit, and this can't be the best moment to add such a business." John Swinney - Aug 2007 :- "Yay... shiny coins... big banky fing... woohoo... Gogarburn.. Fred... yay" Hangover this morning H_B, you seem pretty crabby....? Back to the Economics, here is a wee chart for you; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I've quoted a selection of them on this thread you imbecile. Is diddums annoyed I don't hang on his every word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Gordon Brown - Aug 2007 :- "Yay... shiny coins... big banky fing... woohoo... Gogarburn.. Fred... yay" FTFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Hangover this morning H_B, you seem pretty crabby....? Back to the Economics, here is a wee chart for you; I find the suggestions that Salmond and Swinney are in any way economically more savvy than Westminster politicians laughable. Salmond has of course been forced to mumble apologetically for his dreadful cheerleading of Goodwin, An admission of stupidity is at least something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 I find the suggestions that Salmond and Swinney are in any way economically more savvy than Westminster politicians laughable. Salmond has of course been forced to mumble apologetically for his dreadful cheerleading of Goodwin, An admission of stupidity is at least something. No comment on the chart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I find the suggestions that Salmond and Swinney are in any way economically more savvy than Westminster politicians laughable. Salmond has of course been forced to mumble apologetically for his dreadful cheerleading of Goodwin, An admission of stupidity is at least something. Salmond v Darling on economics ? I know who I would go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 No comment on the chart? Why is it exclusing Debt Interest share, then randomly adding 4% on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Why is it exclusing Debt Interest share, then randomly adding 4% on? All assumptions etc. are explained here; http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/revealed-the-accounting-trick-that-hides-scotlands-wealth/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Sorry, just wait a second here. Wasn't it you who demanded we look to the future, not the past? Didn't you want anything which couldn't be changed (such as for example the SNP lying through their teeth to people) left in the past? Now, why are these figures based on a fantasy land scenario of what might have happened had Scotland seceded decades ago? What possible relevance does that have to the current position, which will see Scotland take on a share of debt close to 130 bn, if we vote Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 All assumptions etc. are explained here; http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/revealed-the-accounting-trick-that-hides-scotlands-wealth/ The most startling bit of that piece is how well Scotland have done compared to the other 3 nations since the SNP took the reins,if all the figures stack up across the economy I could see myself voting for them in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Sorry, just wait a second here. Wasn't it you who demanded we look to the future, not the past? Didn't you want anything which couldn't be changed (such as for example the SNP lying through their teeth to people) left in the past? Now, why are these figures based on a fantasy land scenario of what might have happened had Scotland seceded decades ago? What possible relevance does that have to the current position, which will see Scotland take on a share of debt close to 130 bn, if we vote Yes? Even if true we'll have a considerably smaller debt to GDP ratio. I take it you don't like the truth unless it's in your favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The most startling bit of that piece is how well Scotland have done compared to the other 3 nations since the SNP took the reins,if all the figures stack up across the economy I could see myself voting for them in the future. Why would the SNP get the credit for revenues from what are predominantly Westminster levers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Sorry, just wait a second here. Wasn't it you who demanded we look to the future, not the past? Didn't you want anything which couldn't be changed (such as for example the SNP lying through their teeth to people) left in the past? Now, why are these figures based on a fantasy land scenario of what might have happened had Scotland seceded decades ago? What possible relevance does that have to the current position, which will see Scotland take on a share of debt close to 130 bn, if we vote Yes? I didn't demand anything it isn't really my style, you are the man that keeps referring back to Salmond/Sturgeons "lies" over Europe as if it was the most important thing in the whole debate. I use this chart to demonstrate what might have been if the WG wasnt utterly duplicitous at the time & what you may be letting go if you believe them now! As I said yesterday a population share of debt & a fair share of debt may be 2 very different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The most startling bit of that piece is how well Scotland have done compared to the other 3 nations since the SNP took the reins,if all the figures stack up across the economy I could see myself voting for them in the future. So it's startling that the staus quo has actually delivered good economic results for Scotland? Yet you clowns want to f**k this up by ripping it all up and installing something that is much fucking worse! It gets funnier and funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 So it's startling that the staus quo has actually delivered good economic results for Scotland? Yet you clowns want to f**k this up by ripping it all up and installing something that is much fucking worse! It gets funnier and funnier. Why would it be worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 So it's startling that the staus quo has actually delivered good economic results for Scotland? Yet you clowns want to f**k this up by ripping it all up and installing something that is much fucking worse! It gets funnier and funnier. I love how you call everyone clowns even after Ayrmad dismantles your figures. A clown is someone who wont even acknowledge that someone has made him out to be an arse yet again. Not even the slightest reply after repeated calls for Ayrmad to look at your figures. You have zero credibility left on here.You are the biggest clown of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 So it's startling that the staus quo has actually delivered good economic results for Scotland? Yet you clowns want to f**k this up by ripping it all up and installing something that is much fucking worse! It gets funnier and funnier. No, Westminster has continually told us we're spongers, the evidence you keep ducking disproves this big style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulIsclosed Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 So it's startling that the staus quo has actually delivered good economic results for Scotland? Yet you clowns want to f**k this up by ripping it all up and installing something that is much fucking worse! It gets funnier and funnier. Are you Implying that the status quo can continue? It's clear to everyone that the UK is in an economic malaise that is set to get worse. London once the financial centre of the world has now fallen behind New York. More and more hedge funds pull their operations out of the city every month. Indeed soon it will fall behind Hong Kong, which already outperforms it in terms IPO volumes. When EU regulations begin constraining profits, London will tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Are you Implying that the status quo can continue? It's clear to everyone that the UK is in an economic malaise that is set to get worse. London once the financial centre of the world has now fallen behind New York. More and more hedge funds pull their operations out of the city every month. Indeed soon it will fall behind Hong Kong, which already outperforms it in terms IPO volumes. When EU regulations begin constraining profits, London will tank. Unfortunately the Britnats are in a state of perpetual denial about the continued decline and probable total collapse at some point in the not too distant future of the UK. Austerity has not worked. Its just papering over the cracks and at somepoint the rest of the worlds finance kings are going to cotton on to this. Then the real problems for us all will begin. The country is broke. Anybody under the illusion that the UK has a future of power aand influence is just kidding themselves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Unfortunately the Britnats are in a state of perpetual denial about the continued decline and probable total collapse at some point in the not too distant future of the UK. How is UK growth looking compared to our European peers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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