TheScarf Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Stopped Stopped reading here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I'd never vote SNP, but if I'd be more likely to if Sturgeon was in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Stopped reading here. To be fair it was a fairly daft thing to say. You think its pretty much all about Salmond? The fact you didn't spell his name properly didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 So salmond wouldn't stop banging on about darlings stance on the euro/pound in 03 and continuously used it as a point Awkward http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/salmond-in-call-to-dump-millstone-of-the-pound-1.263204 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 If you can't see that this debate is bigger than Salmond then there isn't much hope for you, and you certainly don't have much to say that's worth reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I'm fully aware the debate is bigger than Salmond, a lot of people are not however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 If you can't see that this debate is bigger than Salmond then there isn't much hope for you, and you certainly don't have much to say that's worth reading. Sure it isn't about salmond or the snp but salmond himself does not half like to make it about the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Sure it isn't about salmond or the snp but salmond himself does not half like to make it about the Tories. He rightly makes it partially about the Tories. Some No voters are as obsessed with Salmond as Lex is about Kilmarnock. And Lex is REALLY obsessed about Kilmarnock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Sure it isn't about salmond or the snp but salmond himself does not half like to make it about the Tories. Quite. Which is a good tactic. Politicians' tactics aren't something I'm too bothered about. Just be smart enough to see through them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 He rightly makes it partially about the Tories. Some No voters are as obsessed with Salmond as Lex is about Kilmarnock. And Lex is REALLY obsessed about Kilmarnock. If it's "partially" about the Tories then it is partially about the SNP. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Sure it isn't about salmond or the snp but salmond himself does not half like to make it about the Tories. It's perfectly acceptable for Yes voters to link a No vote to the specific policies of the Conservatives. They will be the government in perpetuity. It's absolutely unacceptable for No voters to link a Yes vote to the SNP. They are just one party who may or may not form the government. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 If it's "partially" about the Tories then it is partially about the SNP. Simples. Of course it's partially about the SNP. Their raison d'etre is Scottish independence. However, it's not WHOLLY about the SNP. Not by a long chalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Of course it's partially about the SNP. Their raison d'etre is Scottish independence. However, it's not WHOLLY about the SNP. Not by a long chalk. Who suggested it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It's perfectly acceptable for Yes voters to link a No vote to the specific policies of the Conservatives. They will be the government in perpetuity. It's absolutely unacceptable for No voters to link a Yes vote to the SNP. They are just one party who may or may not form the government. Simple. ^^^ learning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Who suggested it is? All the Salmond haterz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It's perfectly acceptable for Yes voters to link a No vote to the specific policies of the Conservatives. They will be the government in perpetuity. It's absolutely unacceptable for No voters to link a Yes vote to the SNP. They are just one party who may or may not form the government. Simple. ^^^ #NCClogic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It's perfectly acceptable for Yes voters to link a No vote to the specific policies of the Conservatives. They will be the government in perpetuity. It's absolutely unacceptable for No voters to link a Yes vote to the SNP. They are just one party who may or may not form the government. Simple. We'll find out in 19 months who is governing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 So salmond wouldn't stop banging on about darlings stance on the euro/pound in 03 and continuously used it as a point Awkward http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/salmond-in-call-to-dump-millstone-of-the-pound-1.263204 Are you and Mr Bairn one and the same, or has this article been pushed on fb or twitter by Better Together? I thought everyone knew that Salmond was in favour of the Euro back in the day? He was making the point that Darling supposedly was too (Salmond was hardly out on his own with this view - actually Blair was very much for it as well - but Brown delayed and delayed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It's perfectly acceptable for Yes voters to link a No vote to the specific policies of the Conservatives. They will be the government in perpetuity. It's absolutely unacceptable for No voters to link a Yes vote to the SNP. They are just one party who may or may not form the government. Simple. Conservatives / New blue Labour / Lib Dems All total shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It's perfectly acceptable for Yes voters to link a No vote to the specific policies of the Conservatives. They will be the government in perpetuity. It's absolutely unacceptable for No voters to link a Yes vote to the SNP. They are just one party who may or may not form the government. Simple. The issue, as I'm sure you're aware, is the general direction of Westminster politics. There has been a pretty solid drift to the right in the last 30 or so years, and there is no sign that this will end. The FPTP electoral system, coupled with gerrymandering by both the major parties has sewn up British politics. A tiny revival from the Lib Dems has been all but blown away (even though they were offering pretty much the same brand of neoliberal fare) and the main threat to the status quo is UKIP - who are even further to the right. A Yes vote allows Scotland to plot a different course - and break the all-too worn political mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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