HibeeJibee Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Didn't realise some championship sides came in at this stage, Morton are in league one though so do you mean Rangers? Sorry, yes, I thought you'd copied-out last season's positions so I did the same. As you say, Rangers, who replaced Morton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 No. Another fully national league for basically park teams would be ridiculous. Even if you keep the two regions, you need a proper pyramid with promotion/relegation, and a non league cup that includes all non league teams.The Scottish Cup is fine the way it is. The top 16 from the amateur cup to qualify for the non league cup alongside the juniors, LL and HL teams. Let the cream rise to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 For anyone interested the attendances are available for this round (unlike the previous 2 rounds) and make for interesting reading as follows: Bo'ness v Culter 660 Arbroath v Montrose 902 Berwick v Formartine 347 Brora v Banks o'Dee 250 Cove v Annan 240 East Fife v Threave 417 Edinburgh City v Auchinleck 573 Elgin v Forres 1,128 Gretna v Queen's Park 380 Inverurie v Hurlford 385 Linlithgow v Dalbeattie 645 Nairn v Huntly 207 Spartans v East Kilbride 285 Turriff v Clyde 494 Whitehill v East Stirlingshire 350 Uni of Stirling v Albion Rovers 292 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 No. Another fully national league for basically park teams would be ridiculous. With respect, if you remove the access to SPFL funds that clubs like Berwick enjoy they might not be much different to a park team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 HibeeJibee reported missing feared dead after non league sides proven to be totally shite I would nae say our performance was shite. There was a bit of luck involved yesterday. The shire scored with prob there 1st chance of the game. Canny speak for Gretna but a very late queens goal separated them two. given we took the promoted side from your league to a replay last season and on the performance of the shire yesterday I dont think there is much difference between the top half of the LL and your league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 It's because the vast majority simply aren't good enough. You hear it round here. All these Coldstream etc players who are ignored by Berwick Rangers. Then they play someone like Wick and are demolished 9-0 or something, before a league team dispatches of Wick with ease. Spartans are about the only credible southern non-league club who could do anything in the league. No. Another fully national league for basically park teams would be ridiculous.yer arrogance and knowledge for the LL truely sticks out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 With respect, if you remove the access to SPFL funds that clubs like Berwick enjoy they might not be much different to a park team.Maybe not, but there's a difference playing in front of 4-500 every week and 20-50 like Selkirk in the Lowland League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 yer arrogance and knowledge for the LL truely sticks out Results stick out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berwick-the-unbeatable Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I would nae say our performance was shite. There was a bit of luck involved yesterday. The shire scored with prob there 1st chance of the game. Canny speak for Gretna but a very late queens goal separated them two. given we took the promoted side from your league to a replay last season and on the performance of the shire yesterday I dont think there is much difference between the top half of the LL and your league. You still got beat by the worst side on our league, by some distance. It's kind of 'cute' in a way that you think that's an achievement, but I think it shows more your knowledge of League 2 when you use QP & Shire as examples, as opposed to our knowledge of the clogland leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 You still got beat by the worst side on our league, by some distance. It's kind of 'cute' in a way that you think that's an achievement, but I think it shows more your knowledge of League 2 when you use QP & Shire as examples, as opposed to our knowledge of the clogland leagues.Albion humiliated Stirling Uni too today. There's even a volleyball club in the league!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 You still got beat by the worst side on our league, by some distance. It's kind of 'cute' in a way that you think that's an achievement, but I think it shows more your knowledge of League 2 when you use QP & Shire as examples, as opposed to our knowledge of the clogland leagues. yer right I know hee haw aboot yer league can you post a link and show me how far yous are running away with it. im fairly certain qp and shire are above yous for being the worst teams in the league Never said it was an achievement we more than matched them. as I said before we took the promoted side to a replay last season. I think yous are just shiting it cause ye could potentially be a LL team next season or would yous go northern league Must admit you guys are good wi the fishing rods though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilky1878 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Would take anything outside the championship here but would like an away game to a lowland league side or boness/linlithgow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Anything that doesn't involve playing at Airdrie or against Sevco will be acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Maybe not, but there's a difference playing in front of 4-500 every week and 20-50 like Selkirk in the Lowland League. Problem. Most of those non league clubs in the south of the country who attract the 400-500 per week are not licenced by the SFA. A number of clubs who play in front of sub 100 crowds are. Selkirk qualifies for tier 5. Auchinleck doesn't. Auchinleck's playing facilities are excellent for their level. Selkirk's are decent. Neither can be described as "park" teams. If a proper integrated structure existed, you wouldn't have BSC Glasgow coming into the Lowland League (because they need token representation in Glasgow) when they don't have a ground of their own and at the time of acceptance didn't have a team either. But desperate times require desperate measures and it's clearly easier to wave them into Tier 5 than develop a package that the top non league teams in the west can buy into. Apologies - off in the wrong direction here but of the non league teams in Round 3, I don't think any can be termed "park" standard (albeit I haven't seen the EK set up ... could be anything). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspy Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Would take anything outside the championship here but would like an away game to a lowland league side or boness/linlithgow They 2 would give us a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilky1878 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 They 2 would give us a game Wasn't for an easy game I picked them, it was for their supports at their level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Problem. Most of those non league clubs in the south of the country who attract the 400-500 per week are not licenced by the SFA. A number of clubs who play in front of sub 100 crowds are. Selkirk qualifies for tier 5. Auchinleck doesn't. Auchinleck's playing facilities are excellent for their level. Selkirk's are decent. Neither can be described as "park" teams. If a proper integrated structure existed, you wouldn't have BSC Glasgow coming into the Lowland League (because they need token representation in Glasgow) when they don't have a ground of their own and at the time of acceptance didn't have a team either. But desperate times require desperate measures and it's clearly easier to wave them into Tier 5 than develop a package that the top non league teams in the west can buy into. Apologies - off in the wrong direction here but of the non league teams in Round 3, I don't think any can be termed "park" standard (albeit I haven't seen the EK set up ... could be anything). Although as far as I'm aware, the junior clubs with those kind of crowds charge less than a fiver to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Although as far as I'm aware, the junior clubs with those kind of crowds charge less than a fiver to get in. £5 is the standard charge in the juniors (and LL I think). Many would argue that you guys pay far too much for what you watch but that's how it is. I don't think cost is the driver. Some teams have better engagement with their communities than others - I'm sure SPFL2 is the same. That's where the crowds come from. We play teams in our league who have a dire support. But there are more well supported Junior teams than non league Seniors - but then there are a lot more junior teams full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 It's because the vast majority simply aren't good enough. You hear it round here. All these Coldstream etc players who are ignored by Berwick Rangers. Then they play someone like Wick and are demolished 9-0 or something, before a league team dispatches of Wick with ease. Spartans are about the only credible southern non-league club who could do anything in the league.i think you should remember where Berwick get the players from, that the ducket creams themselves over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 whens eh draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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