Srevart Treb Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Why do people feel as though we are obliged to take action over this? Why does an attack on Paris mean Britain should be bombing Syria? It's heavy handedness from the west that has influenced the Middle East's perspective of us. I can't argue them that. So what?, we do nothing and just let them bomb Western civilisation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 There will never be another global war, or at least not any time soon. As for right wing groups having a surge in membership or sympathy, that's a natural response of the uneducated to mainstream media induced panic, and isn't as severe as you make it sound. Relax mate, you'll live longer. I disagree but I guess we'll see. I hope it isn't as severe as I've made it sound. I'm perfectly relaxed, I need something to kill time in here and I fear if I have another w**k at my desk I'll get the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I disagree but I guess we'll see. I hope it isn't as severe as I've made it sound. I'm perfectly relaxed, I need something to kill time in here and I fear if I have another w**k at my desk I'll get the sack. I'll make you a bet, if there's a world war in the next 100 years then I'll buy you a Coke. If, after 100 years from today, there has not been a world war, then you owe me £1m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So what?, we do nothing and just let them bomb Western civilisation So basically it's "us" and "them" according to you? That kind of bigoted mindset will be the end of mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'll make you a bet, if there's a world war in the next 100 years then I'll buy you a Coke. If, after 100 years from today, there has not been a world war, then you owe me £1m. Make it an Irn Bru and you have a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairn Terrier Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Islam pisses off Alot of people. I'm not surprised now and again that sort of stuff happens. It's not exactly massacring 180 people or beheading aid workers kinda shit tho is it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre Biggest atrocity since WW 2. But hey, shit happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srevart Treb Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So basically it's "us" and "them" according to you? That kind of bigoted mindset will be the end of mankind. It is us and them, until your like open your eyes and see that then it is the end. For us anyway. Humanity is us and them, always has been and always will be, its in our nature. We all want to live in your utopian fairyland dreamworld where everyone gets on and has flowers in their hair. Its never going to happen though, so in the real world, I want to protect a way of life and culture that doesnt operate according to stone age set of rules and belief in a mythical God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_14 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Islam pisses off Alot of people. I'm not surprised now and again that sort of stuff happens. It's not exactly massacring 180 people or beheading aid workers kinda shit tho is it? You were wrong and this is your way of squirming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It's not 'of' it's 'have' you simpleton. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Myanmar_anti-Muslim_riots I'm afraid I can't take seriously any posts that have "of" when it should be "have". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'll make you a bet, if there's a world war in the next 100 years then I'll buy you a Coke. If, after 100 years from today, there has not been a world war, then you owe me £1m. It would depend on your definition of a world war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight minge Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It is us and them, until your like open your eyes and see that then it is the end. For us anyway. Humanity is us and them, always has been and always will be, its in our nature. We all want to live in your utopian fairyland dreamworld where everyone gets on and has flowers in their hair. Its never going to happen though, so in the real world, I want to protect a way of life and culture that doesnt operate according to stone age set of rules and belief in a mythical God. Depending who you are defining as 'us' and 'them' you could be spouting bollocks. If the 'us' is everyone with a common understanding of right and wrong, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist or whatever and 'them' being this relatively small group of radicalised nutters, fair enough then. However I doubt that's what you mean. Most conflicts have never been clear cut but more alliances against common enemies. From world wars, regional battles and religious disputes, very few have been clear cut black and white. All 'ways of life' have been defined by 'Stone Age set of rules'. Our own culture and way of life as much as any other is shaped by Christianity, which is another 'Stone Age set of rules'. The only real waking up needed is the fact that all religion is bollocks. Although if someone chooses a faith that helps them through life and it doesn't impact me, why can't I accept it and get on with my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srevart Treb Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Why is it never going to happen? Because humam nature wont allow it, everyone has individual thoughts and beliefs and these will invariably conflict with someone elses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 We all want to live in your utopian fairyland dreamworld where everyone gets on and has flowers in their hair. Its never going to happen though, so in the real world, I want to protect a way of life and culture that doesnt operate according to stone age set of rules and belief in a mythical God. So, we all want to live in a utopian world but it won't happen because we don't all want a utopian world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It would depend on your definition of a world war. Shut up, Jacksgranda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Because humam nature wont allow it, everyone has individual thoughts and beliefs and these will invariably conflict with someone elses. I know plenty of people with different beliefs and thoughts, it doesn't stop me from getting along with them though. RawB is spot on with what he's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srevart Treb Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Depending who you are defining as 'us' and 'them' you could be spouting bollocks. If the 'us' is everyone with a common understanding of right and wrong, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist or whatever and 'them' being this relatively small group of radicalised nutters, fair enough then. However I doubt that's what you mean. Most conflicts have never been clear cut but more alliances against common enemies. From world wars, regional battles and religious disputes, very few have been clear cut black and white. All 'ways of life' have been defined by 'Stone Age set of rules'. Our own culture and way of life as much as any other is shaped by Christianity, which is another 'Stone Age set of rules'. The only real waking up needed is the fact that all religion is bollocks. Although if someone chooses a faith that helps them through life and it doesn't impact me, why can't I accept it and get on with my life. I cant disagree with the all religion being bollocks, because it is. Christianity is not the force it once was, and will continue to diminish in the West. The only religion I view as being a threat however to my way of life is Islam, Sikhs, Buddhists, Hindus, Rastafarians or whoever else are no direct threat to my way of life, I dont agree with their beliefs but as they arent a threat then I have no issue with them. Christianity whilst causing some issues (Catholic/Protestant nonsense), is on the slide and doesnt have any impact on my life. Islam however does, and will continue to have an impact accross all of Western Civilization until people wake up and admit that Islam will never integrate into modern Western societies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srevart Treb Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So, we all want to live in a utopian world but it won't happen because we don't all want a utopian world? We do, they dont, okay??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 We do, they dont, okay??? Define "we" and "they"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srevart Treb Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I know plenty of people with different beliefs and thoughts, it doesn't stop me from getting along with them though. RawB is spot on with what he's saying. Dosent stop me either, but I'm not the one following a lunatic ideology which makes it clear who its ok to get along with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srevart Treb Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Define "we" and "they"?We = Democractic secular societiesThey = Muslims who dont want to live in the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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