Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: This tree is very old, therefore brexit is good. 1400 years? Is he advocating a return to the Dark Ages? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Suspect Device said: Ah, so in these areas, people kept seeing signs that said "built and paid for by the EU" and the reaction was "bloody interfering foreigners". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 In a way I respect Piers Morgan and his commitment to repeatedly reminding everyone of how dumb he is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: This might be interesting viewing on Monday night. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/04/channel-4s-new-brexit-drama-conceived-the-day-jo-cox-was-killed Maybe we can have a full and frank debate on this TV drama afterwards. The real life Dominic Cummings is a slimy wee c**t. I suspect a programme like this will give his ego a boost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: This tree is very old, therefore brexit is good. Can anyone help me with the cryptic crossword in today's paper? 5D. Remoan'rs with pig becomes total arsehole. (5,6) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Labour will be decimated at the next election if they support Brexit according to a new poll. Also they will lose a huge number of members. Maybe not enough to persuade Corbyn but others in the Shadow Cabinet including his loyalists may be inclined to pay attention. Edited January 6, 2019 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Labour will be decimated at the next election if they support Brexit according to a new poll. Also they will lose a huge number of members. Maybe not enough to persuade Corbyn but others in the Shadow Cabinet including his loyalists may be inclined to pay attention. Yes. Brexit is the elephant in the room and Corbyn wants to ignore it. I suspect the main reason Corbyn became party leader is because he appealed to the young (and not so young) idealist who would just like the world to a better place, where there is no war or disease or poverty and everybody gets on with everybody else. Unfortunately so much of the Brexit argument is the exact opposite of this. The whole Lexit argument is a nonsense. Does Corbyn seriously think all the leading Brexiteers and their allies in the MSM are doing what they do just so he can sneak in and create a socialist utopia? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 The arithmetic is so fucking obvious, if Corbyn wants to put together a majority in Parliament or the country he has to go for a final referendum. Everything points to him being willing for us to slide into a hard Brexit though. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/05/brexit-corbyn-electoral-catastrophe-yougov-poll?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Meanwhile the Lib Dems are picking up. https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1081678914123124741 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Every Labour MP and member would do well to watch the excellent movie 'The Caine Mutiny' and see if they recognise any similarities between Bogart's character Captain Queeg and Jeremy Corbyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Meanwhile the Lib Dems are picking up. https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1081678914123124741 At the risk of stating the obvious, with FPTP the only beneficiaries of those changes will be the Tories. It’s time for the Corbynistas to hold their leader to account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Can't believe the interview Andrew Marr has just done with May. She must have said about 6 times that her deal delivers on Brexit, gives us back control of our borders, protects jobs and services, and honours the referendum result. I thought at some stage Marr was bound to say yes, you've just said that, do you really have to say it all over again, but no, he just let her spew out her piece over and over again. He didn't manage to get her to answer 1 question such as are you likely to postpone the vote again, or what happens if Parliament votes against her crap deal? Pathetic interview - a complete waste of time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 minute ago, ICTJohnboy said: Can't believe the interview Andrew Marr has just done with May. She must have said about 6 times that her deal delivers on Brexit, gives us back control of our borders, protects jobs and services, and honours the referendum result. I thought at some stage Marr was bound to say yes, you've just said that, do you really have to say it all over again, but no, he just let her spew out her piece over and over again. He didn't manage to get her to answer 1 question such as are you likely to postpone the vote again, or what happens if Parliament votes against her crap deal? Pathetic interview - a complete waste of time. tbf she was never going to answer those questions. She has to convince Brexiteers that if her deal doesn't pass it will mean no Brexit, and Remainers that it will mean a hard brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: tbf she was never going to answer those questions. She has to convince Brexiteers that if her deal doesn't pass it will mean no Brexit, and Remainers that it will mean a hard brexit. Yeah but tha doesn’t negate @ICTJohnboy point. Piss poor effort from Marr, not a surprise but shows him as a toady rather than a serious interviewer/commentator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Rubin Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Gordon Brewer is the best interviewer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Can't believe the interview Andrew Marr has just done with May. She must have said about 6 times that her deal delivers on Brexit, gives us back control of our borders, protects jobs and services, and honours the referendum result. I thought at some stage Marr was bound to say yes, you've just said that, do you really have to say it all over again, but no, he just let her spew out her piece over and over again. He didn't manage to get her to answer 1 question such as are you likely to postpone the vote again, or what happens if Parliament votes against her crap deal? Pathetic interview - a complete waste of time. Did he let her be very clear, though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Just now, ICTJohnboy said: Can't believe the interview Andrew Marr has just done with May. She must have said about 6 times that her deal delivers on Brexit, gives us back control of our borders, protects jobs and services, and honours the referendum result. I thought at some stage Marr was bound to say yes, you've just said that, do you really have to say it all over again, but no, he just let her spew out her piece over and over again. He didn't manage to get her to answer 1 question such as are you likely to postpone the vote again, or what happens if Parliament votes against her crap deal? Pathetic interview - a complete waste of time. Marr is a BBC toadie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Meanwhile the Lib Dems are picking up. https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1081678914123124741 I always work on the assumption that when somebody is polled like this - they will answer as if the next question is "why?" The answers might be: CON: I expect the Tories to deliver Brexit LDEM: I oppose Brexit and want to remain in the EU Green: I oppose Brexit and want to remain in the EU and I care about the planet UKIP: Send 'em home By comparison, why vote Labour? It is in favour of Brexit OR maybe against it OR maybe Yes OR maybe No. I choose to vote Labour because I just love Lucky Dip. Where's your sense of adventure? .. or maybe not. There is a temptation to say you would vote Lib Dem - not because you actually would but to scare Labour away from its current position and more towards a second referendum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I prefer Pienaar's Politics on 5 Live at the same time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: Can't believe the interview Andrew Marr has just done with May. She must have said about 6 times that her deal delivers on Brexit, gives us back control of our borders, protects jobs and services, and honours the referendum result. I thought at some stage Marr was bound to say yes, you've just said that, do you really have to say it all over again, but no, he just let her spew out her piece over and over again. He didn't manage to get her to answer 1 question such as are you likely to postpone the vote again, or what happens if Parliament votes against her crap deal? Pathetic interview - a complete waste of time. Makes you wish for the good old days... Edited January 6, 2019 by beefybake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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