PASSANDMOVE Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 19/05/2018 at 12:04, an86 said: “Only a few.” I concede he splits opinion, but I don’t get the sense that there’s a great majority on either side of the debate. Didn't realise this thread was still going? I too I'm very concerned by Gus's behaviour regarding our own players, he has a lot of good points but this is a major issue - needs to be addressed for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, PASSANDMOVE said: Didn't realise this thread was still going? I too I'm very concerned by Gus's behaviour regarding our own players, he has a lot of good points but this is a major issue - needs to be addressed for next season. We were promoted because we were good enough to go up. We had our best finish in a generation because we squeezed just about the maximum out of what we had that season. The style of management, without doubt, worked during those seasons. We wouldn’t have achieved what we did, otherwise. There’s been no change in the style that did help deliver success, so I’m sceptical as to the negative effect it actually had. In my view, we were relegated because we weren’t good enough over the season. We lost key players and couldn’t replace then with players of a League One standard. That’s why we’re playing in League Two next season. For me, the minimum requirement of a Queen’s Park manager is to put a competitive team on the park. Despite the end result, we were largely competitive in League One. The only time we’ve ever been truly uncompetitive in my lifetime was 2013/14, which was frankly embarrassing. The game changes in League Two. Realistically or not, I’d say a lot of fans will be expecting a decent tilt at the top four in 2018/19, even with the huge turnaround. Gus is going to need a summer like 2014 again if that’s going to happen. His record of recruitment at League Two level, backed up by his results are what makes keeping him on an absolute no-brainer for me. Frankly, I don’t really care if he ruffles a few feathers while doing what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williebraveheart Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 hours ago, an86 said: We were promoted because we were good enough to go up. We had our best finish in a generation because we squeezed just about the maximum out of what we had that season. The style of management, without doubt, worked during those seasons. We wouldn’t have achieved what we did, otherwise. There’s been no change in the style that did help deliver success, so I’m sceptical as to the negative effect it actually had. In my view, we were relegated because we weren’t good enough over the season. We lost key players and couldn’t replace then with players of a League One standard. That’s why we’re playing in League Two next season. For me, the minimum requirement of a Queen’s Park manager is to put a competitive team on the park. Despite the end result, we were largely competitive in League One. The only time we’ve ever been truly uncompetitive in my lifetime was 2013/14, which was frankly embarrassing. The game changes in League Two. Realistically or not, I’d say a lot of fans will be expecting a decent tilt at the top four in 2018/19, even with the huge turnaround. Gus is going to need a summer like 2014 again if that’s going to happen. His record of recruitment at League Two level, backed up by his results are what makes keeping him on an absolute no-brainer for me. Frankly, I don’t really care if he ruffles a few feathers while doing what he does. Oh Dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Reilly Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 If you are so concerned with the goings on of the AGM, why don’t you become a member and attend said AGMHi guy's, I'm a relatively new supporter of the Spiders, and this is my first post on the P&B forum (please be gentle), although I've been following the QP threads here for about a year now. Since coming along to the games I've been confused by the concept of club 'members'. I've never heard of this with any other club, and assume its something to do with our amateur status. In the past I've looked on the club website/Facebook etc. to find out more, but while 'members' are often mentioned, there is no information on what the criteria is to become a member, or how one goes about applying. I asked some long term supporters and they were under the impression that you had to have a formal connection with the club in order to be a member (e.g. former player/ staff etc.) So can anyone enlighten me? Can anyone be a 'member'? How do you become a 'member'? Is it as simple as pay a membership fee, or is there more to it? And what exactly can/do member's do? Sorry if this seems like a daft question, but I genuinely have no idea what 'membership' of a football club means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanQP Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Sorry did not realize you had to be a member to have concerns about our club . Well it would help if more people were members, membership is falling, granted the club don’t do all it can to attract people to become members but there clearly is a lack of engagement amongst a lot of the support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASSANDMOVE Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 10 hours ago, an86 said: We were promoted because we were good enough to go up. We had our best finish in a generation because we squeezed just about the maximum out of what we had that season. The style of management, without doubt, worked during those seasons. We wouldn’t have achieved what we did, otherwise. There’s been no change in the style that did help deliver success, so I’m sceptical as to the negative effect it actually had. In my view, we were relegated because we weren’t good enough over the season. We lost key players and couldn’t replace then with players of a League One standard. That’s why we’re playing in League Two next season. For me, the minimum requirement of a Queen’s Park manager is to put a competitive team on the park. Despite the end result, we were largely competitive in League One. The only time we’ve ever been truly uncompetitive in my lifetime was 2013/14, which was frankly embarrassing. The game changes in League Two. Realistically or not, I’d say a lot of fans will be expecting a decent tilt at the top four in 2018/19, even with the huge turnaround. Gus is going to need a summer like 2014 again if that’s going to happen. His record of recruitment at League Two level, backed up by his results are what makes keeping him on an absolute no-brainer for me. Frankly, I don’t really care if he ruffles a few feathers while doing what he does. Your deluded - iv'e been a supporter for over 50 years and NO manager has been bigger than the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, PASSANDMOVE said: Your deluded - iv'e been a supporter for over 50 years and NO manager has been bigger than the club. Don’t think anybody has suggested that. The reason being that it’d be a very silly thing to suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Anyone wishing to apply for membership can get the relevant info by contacting the club secretary. http://www.queensparkfc.co.uk/?page_id=197 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick1867 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Ben Reilly said: 22 hours ago, NathanQP said: If you are so concerned with the goings on of the AGM, why don’t you become a member and attend said AGM Hi guy's, I'm a relatively new supporter of the Spiders, and this is my first post on the P&B forum (please be gentle), although I've been following the QP threads here for about a year now. Since coming along to the games I've been confused by the concept of club 'members'. I've never heard of this with any other club, and assume its something to do with our amateur status. In the past I've looked on the club website/Facebook etc. to find out more, but while 'members' are often mentioned, there is no information on what the criteria is to become a member, or how one goes about applying. I asked some long term supporters and they were under the impression that you had to have a formal connection with the club in order to be a member (e.g. former player/ staff etc.) So can anyone enlighten me? Can anyone be a 'member'? How do you become a 'member'? Is it as simple as pay a membership fee, or is there more to it? And what exactly can/do member's do? Sorry if this seems like a daft question, but I genuinely have no idea what 'membership' of a football club means. All you need to do is contact the club for an application form for membership, then get two current members to sign the form - one proposing you and the other to second you. Always plenty of members ready and willing to do this for you. Full membership is what you want, not associate membership. It costs a bit more than a season ticket but it gets you into all the home games no matter the competition, and it also gives you a say on how the club is run, for example you get to vote at EGMs and AGMs on the important issues. You can also stand for committee if you want. The full members are basically the equivalent of "shareholders". We own the club and also elect the committee from the membership. No formal connection required, just a genuine love and enthusiasm for the club. Current committee is made up of ex players and supporters ( the guy that runs our away bus just got on the committee the other night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 18 hours ago, Ben Reilly said: So can anyone enlighten me? Can anyone be a 'member'? 4 hours ago, Mick1867 said: The full members are basically the equivalent of "shareholders". We own the club and also elect the committee from the membership. No formal connection required, just a genuine love and enthusiasm for the club. And bowler hats are strictly optional nowadays. Need to attract more young chaps like yourself Ben Reilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanQP Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 A real urge for young people to be members, think I am one of the youngest members at age 26 so it says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanQP Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Bit of a more fun discussion, are we getting new strips next season as we will be reverting back to the black and white hoops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 hours ago, NathanQP said: Bit of a more fun discussion, are we getting new strips next season as we will be reverting back to the black and white hoops? There's a new club thread on L2 forum. Some comment in there about it. Suppose we hve to get out of here sometime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick1867 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 19 hours ago, NathanQP said: Bit of a more fun discussion, are we getting new strips next season as we will be reverting back to the black and white hoops? Reverting back to the hoops as the home strip but not getting new kit. The dark blue and red to be used as the change strips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Reilly Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Thank to all the guys that responded to my questions about membership. I'll give it some thought as I'd like to get involved, but like so many things, it may come down to whether I can afford it (or can convince the wife that I can afford it). It's a shame that the club don't do more to promote membership though. As I mentioned, there's no info on the website/Facebook etc. and even some long term supporters I know didn't really know much about it. I'm assuming it's a reasonable source of income for the club, so it seems strange that they don't do more to encourage new members to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePoohBear Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 We have signed luke Donnelly. What do you boys make of him. Will he be any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, ThePoohBear said: We have signed luke Donnelly. What do you boys make of him. Will he be any good? Enigmatic. I liked him. Good touch, decent finisher, good passer. Will take stick for being a big guy who isn’t interested in the physical battle. That’s just not his game. He’s a proper player, but just needs to do it consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1870ToonBlue Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Adam Cummins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiblue Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Got any other players we can ave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Got any other players we can ave? Run out of players. Might have some nice blue jerseys though, just outside the best-before date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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