GordonS Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Truthteller said: St. Andrews Dundonald I don't engage with you much bud, and this kind of thing is why. Neither team changed their mind. You've just either got the wrong end of the stick somewhere, or you're making things up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Truthteller said: So called big clubs should be leading the way. Linlithgow and Bo'ness who are being dragged in kicking and screaming. Big clubs ??????? You're having a f#####g laugh teams in the west will be pissing themselves laughing At least the other east region clubs had the baws to make the decision to move off their own backs. the wee rose and Bo'ness have had their heads up their own ass for years full of their self importance, and are now being led by others truthteller says it as it is If a WoSFL is getting founded and some of the big teams leave, the same would happen as in the East with others following in fear of being left behind and having to join in a lower tier. Dundonald's original decision to defer for a year while doing some work wasn't that strange. Once they saw how many others moved late on, it made sense to join straight away. As said, this "shambles" is caused by the SJFA inaction and refusal to engage with the pyramid, you can't blame the clubs or EoSFL. And talking about piss up and brewery, with how the SJFA organise their leagues, those words are more appropriate for them... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 truthteller says it as it is ^^^ alias fail 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, GordonS said: I don't engage with you much bud, and this kind of thing is why. Neither team changed their mind. You've just either got the wrong end of the stick somewhere, or you're making things up. St. Andrews had a meeting but the management couldn't make it, news from that was the decision to stay junior. The management team are apparently pro the move so the 2nd meeting was called to hear their views. Move to the EoSFL was decided on. Dundonald were set for the original 31st March deadline for the 2018-19 season. Only to defer quite late to a 2019-20 application. Then went back to the original plan of 2018-19 when they saw how many clubs were moving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, GordonS said: I don't engage with you much bud, and this kind of thing is why. Neither team changed their mind. You've just either got the wrong end of the stick somewhere, or you're making things up. St Andrews had 2 meetings. At the first one they decided that they were staying. Their new management team who were not at this meeting then asked for another meeting to be held so they could have an input. At this second meeting they decided to leave. That to me is changing your decision. Dundonald have flip flopped so much. In, deferred, out then back in again. It's like the Hokey Cokey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 St Andrews had 2 meetings. At the first one they decided that they were staying. Their new management team who were not at this meeting then asked for another meeting to be held so they could have an input. At this second meeting they decided to leave. That to me is changing your decision. Dundonald have flip flopped so much. In, deferred, out then back in again. It's like the Hokey Cokey[emoji33] Told the management threatened to quit if they didnt apply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Told the management threatened to quit if they didnt apply. Nothing like putting yourself under pressure. Mind you if it doesn't work out for them on the park they just walk away and the club will be in a place they didn't really want to be. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Nothing like putting yourself under pressure. Mind you if it doesn't work out for them on the park they just walk away and the club will be in a place they didn't really want to be. You and I tend to disagree on a lot of things but for once I actually agree with you. I think the move is the right thing but if its true it certainly hasnt happened in a natural way. Could be wrong though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, Truthteller said: St Andrews had 2 meetings. At the first one they decided that they were staying. Their new management team who were not at this meeting then asked for another meeting to be held so they could have an input. At this second meeting they decided to leave. That to me is changing your decision. Dundonald have flip flopped so much. In, deferred, out then back in again. It's like the Hokey Cokey Dundonald were never "out" when they made their first decision to move. The question since has always been when they'd move, not if. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passbackdave Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 [emoji14] Nah, I actually quite like her! I love ma missus and ma 2 kids but they still get ditched for away games. Lol Mon the papers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, Marten said: Dundonald were never "out" when they made their first decision to move. The question since has always been when they'd move, not if. I would say once the deferral occurred the question became how they'd move. EoSFL or a sjfa backed solution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 ...and judging by a "better together" rant on here from what appeared to be a committee member the latter was their preferred option (understandably IMO) until it later became clear to most that the PWG wasn't in agreement with that strategy and that it was a non-starter for teams in the EoS catchment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 You and I tend to disagree on a lot of things but for once I actually agree with you. I think the move is the right thing but if its true it certainly hasnt happened in a natural way. Could be wrong though. The St Andrews decision is a difficult one.Let's be honest the prime decision for many clubs to move was geographical.St Andrews have gone out on a limb here.Staying in the new Tayside dominated superleague for one season would have given them a real low cost season. Probably would then slip into north region eos tier 7 if that is what evolves.Think they are gambling on making top 16 which is a big ask.Tayport took the other view.Carrot of the big Scottish for super winner also helps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, superbigal said: The St Andrews decision is a difficult one. Let's be honest the prime decision for many clubs to move was geographical. St Andrews have gone out on a limb here. Staying in the new Tayside dominated superleague for one season would have given them a real low cost season. Probably would then slip into north region eos tier 7 if that is what evolves. Think they are gambling on making top 16 which is a big ask. Tayport took the other view. Carrot of the big Scottish for super winner also helps. Agreed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Truthteller said: St Andrews had 2 meetings. At the first one they decided that they were staying. Their new management team who were not at this meeting then asked for another meeting to be held so they could have an input. At this second meeting they decided to leave. That to me is changing your decision. They were in, then they were out. That's all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, GordonS said: They were in, then they were out. That's all. So they changed their mind ? Yes or no will be sufficient 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Truthteller said: So they changed their mind ? Yes or no will be sufficient EGM @ Musselburgh tonight according to Twitter? Edited June 4, 2018 by Truthteller 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 EGM @ Musselburgh tonight according to Twitter? Despite the on pitch success things appear (from the outside) to be looking less than rosy at Musselburgh, manager leaving, players leaving in their droves and rumours of money troubles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramidic Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Gimme said: Despite the on pitch success things appear (from the outside) to be looking less than rosy at Musselburgh, manager leaving, players leaving in their droves and rumours of money troubles. Disappointing to hear. Perhaps an opportunity to work with Musselburgh Windsor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Truthteller said: So they changed their mind ? Yes or no will be sufficient Try reading: 16 hours ago, GordonS said: Who changed their mind, other than from wanting to stay Junior to wanting to leave? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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