Smacking Ban

[NotThePars]

Parents have a legal obligation to ensure children are educated.
The state have a role in ensuring that education meets certain standards.
If that's a bit Big Government for you then fine but I would suggest it's a minority position.

How else is he gonnae stop the progressive agenda indoctrinating his kids?

[1320Lichtie]

 

It's not common at all. I've seen it a couple of times I reckon in my 31 years. Clearly it's common behind closed doors. When was last time you seen a child smacked in public ?

 

Did I feel uncomfortable seeing an adult hit there child? Absolutely.

 

 

 

It is common, Google it. Banana will have more accurate figures than the ones I've just provided going by what he's said but parents smacking their kids when they misbehave is common.

 

And I don't know, I haven't really been taking note of it. Wouldn't make me feel uncomfortable either, because its happened to me, and I've seen it happen hundreds of times when I was younger.

 

You seem awful sheltered for a Kirkton lad... Anyway just going round in circles here. I'll leave it at that.

 

 

[1320Lichtie]

Sheltered because my mates parents or mine didn't hit them as a child?
By time I went to Kirkton high I was 13 ( think that's first year age).
Lived in Bridgefoot then Downfield.

Didn't see many parents at Kirkton. Many were single parent family's and if any abuse I witnessed it was verbal. The smacking /battering usually was fighting between the kids themselves.

Not to sure what you are getting at :-).
I don't need Google to tell me that hitting your own child is wrong.

Also many on here who have said they did get smacked did say it was a light tap. Then was a whole discussion about the difference between them both. However we as parents should not be hitting our children. It is wrong.

That will be the end of it.

People aren't 'battering' their kids.

And I never said hitting your child was the right thing to do.

[1320Lichtie]

 
I didn't say that. I said kids fight/batter amongst themselves.
I also didn't say anything regarding your stance on this .
 
Swing. Miss
 

Haha I'm not swinging for anything Gman, get back to your irn bru and chill oooot. [emoji6]

[ayrmad]

3 hours ago, G_Man1985 said:

 

How many adults have smacked their child? Seems to be quite a few on here.

 

I don't think too many have actually said they've smacked their kids.

[ayrmad]

1 minute ago, G_Man1985 said:

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think as many as 4 have stated such, could be wrong.

[whiskychimp]

Just now, ayrmad said:

I don't think as many as 4 have stated such, could be wrong.

Tbf I didnt actually count. Just took a punt. It wasnt many anyway.

[Granny Danger]

54 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said:

 

Sheltered because my mates parents or mine didn't hit them as a child?
By time I went to Kirkton high I was 13 ( think that's first year age).
Lived in Bridgefoot then Downfield.

Didn't see many parents at Kirkton. Many were single parent family's and if any abuse I witnessed it was verbal. The smacking /battering usually was fighting between the kids themselves.

Not to sure what you are getting at :-).
I don't need Google to tell me that hitting your own child is wrong.

Also many on here who have said they did get smacked did say it was a light tap. Then was a whole discussion about the difference between them both. However we as parents should not be hitting our children. It is wrong.

That will be the end of it.

 

 

Sending your kids to Kirton High is worse than smacking them TBH.

[capybara]

I have changed my mind on this I have been on the  receiving end and have dealt it out, although I did not use it much, I would rather talk things through. 

School was always a risky business, teachers who would belt 1st ask questions later.  Home was a different case, I lost my dad in May , he hit me. And at times hard. Certainly a lot more than a "light tap". It was the 60,s it was the norm, every boy on my street got walloped. I was more sparing I guess, I hate the idea of hurting a kid. Yes there are wee neds  etc, But are they there simply because we do not hit kids at school or home?  They  have always been there. Parenting or lack of it is more likely the blame. 

Kids are born innocent , they learn from us, the so called adults. 

[chomp my root]

2 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said:

 

And it's never even been discussed between you and your mates when you were younger? Fair enough.

And for disciplinary reasons obviously, not for enjoyment. I don't see how you can be so naive to it all.

First link I opened up showed that 80 percent of children around the world have been smacked, according to UNICEF. 60 percent of people in the U.K felt that it should not be banned and in America 76 percent of males and 65 percent of females said that sometimes children 'need a good hard spanking'.

I'm not for it, I don't agree with it I think there are better methods, however I don't have kids.

I'm just very surprised that on here so many claim that it's never happened to them or they've never done it.

Also surprised at what some people seem to think it involves, parents who have said they've done it on here have been treated like they've beaten up their kids. Not understanding that at all. I would never have any hard feelings towards my parents for giving me a smack on the arse for when I was misbehaving.
 

 

Yeah, I'm cynical about a lot of the outrage on here and not just on this thread. 

As a card carrying kid beater (the very odd slapped arse/back of legs but lets not get bogged down with the minutia) and being a kid that was beat to a pulp (hardly ) its hardly the worst thing that happens. I was more outraged about not being allowed to go to a concert when I was 15 than I was for any physical chastisement.  I bore that grudge a lot longer than was healthy and with hindsight, I get why I wasn't allowed to go. I was also severely hacked off that my younger brother got to do stuff at a younger age than I did, I was the guinea pig as the older kid. Good parents don't punish their kids for shits and giggles and don't always get it right, there are plenty who bribe their kids with sweets and crisps, that's probably not good parenting, and arguably has a longer lasting effect than a measured physical chastisement. But that's all irrelevant, its all about the moral high ground and pontificating., and giving people shit of course. 

[Scary Bear]

I'm naive because people have the need to hit there children for discipline reasons?
Why don't they hit there children in public when there kid needs disciplined?
Because they know it's wrong. There is no reason as an adult to hit yer own child.

f**k me! It's 'their'.

[whiskychimp]

1 hour ago, capybara said:

 

Kids are born innocent ,

Mine bloody wasn't. She was a manipulative little shit. She'd also have slit my throat for trying to get a shot of her mum's tits.

[chomp my root]

5 minutes ago, whiskychimp said:

Mine bloody wasn't. She was a manipulative little shit. She'd also have slit my throat for trying to get a shot of her mum's tits.

Some sort of timeshare sounds in order. 

[JMDP]

3 hours ago, whiskychimp said:

I live in London. African parentage is pretty strong on the beating. I see it fairly often and it's more forceful than I feel comfortable with

I live in London. I've never seen it once.

[whiskychimp]

15 minutes ago, JMDP said:

I live in London. I've never seen it once.

You should get out more. Shepherds Bush market would be the first stop on my  watch kids getting beaten tour bus.

Edited October 24, 2017 by whiskychimp

[Sergeant Wilson]

7 minutes ago, whiskychimp said:

You should get out more. Shepherds Bush market would be the first stop on my  watch kids getting beaten tour bus.

Mention it to the Tourist Information people, they can get the open top bus to go past.

[JMDP]

1 hour ago, whiskychimp said:

You should get out more. Shepherds Bush market would be the first stop on my  watch kids getting beaten tour bus.

So you're saying I would see children being hit "fairly often" round there?

 

[whiskychimp]

3 minutes ago, JMDP said:

So you're saying I would see children being hit "fairly often" round there?

 

Id say its a "regular occurence" if you're looking for an exact phraseology. I've seen a few kids beaten by their parents (assumption) on Upton Park High Road too (and Im not in Upton Park very often)

Edited October 24, 2017 by whiskychimp

[Scary Bear]

Naughty step haha

Out of interest if the naughty step is out and you're obviously dead against smacking, what methods do you use to discipline your children?

Do you just let them run wild?

Do they never misbehave in any manner?

[Shaggy Jenkins]

2 hours ago, Scary Bear said:

 

 

Out of interest if the naughty step is out and you're obviously dead against smacking, what methods do you use to discipline your children?

Do you just let them run wild?

 

 

This seems to be the norm now...its apparently called 'letting children be children' and 'expressing themselves'.......what that really means is letting them away with murder, because you have tried to reason with them and guess what its not worked, most of them need a bloody good skelp to be honest.