Zetterlund Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 10 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? Isn't he the Hull manager now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 hours ago, HenryHill said: This thread started off well but is now full of facts and reasonable debate. Very sad. You okay? You've gone a bit Donald Trump. Sad. A bit of love for Rasputin here? Perhaps his influence helped accelerate the Romanov's fall? If not then he's at least an inspiration to many P&Bers with an aversion to washing being no barrier to sexual success. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Rasputin was a wizard. Of that I have no doubt. Unfortunately he's sorta lost in the muddle of legends roaming the streets of Petrograd in the 1910s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 hours ago, NotThePars said: That's a shame as it sounds like the world of academia has lost a potential intellectual powerhouse. 6 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Rasputin was a wizard. Of that I have no doubt. Unfortunately he's sorta lost in the muddle of legends roaming the streets of Petrograd in the 1910s. Just saying..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Fair play hinging about the thread looking for an opportunity to make a zinger. Wouldn't be me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 8 hours ago, NJ2 said: Off on a tangent, but I was at a humanist service recently and it seemed quite a good idea, humanism. Is there more to it than just generally “be a gid c**t, not an arsehole”? I appreciate your point too many people are arseholes for it to really be the way of the world but from what the snapshot I heard it seemed the right idea. Right, but that's a self selective group of hippie weirdos. It takes eternal damnation with your religion to scare most of the assholes and keep them in line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 42 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Fair play hinging about the thread looking for an opportunity to make a zinger. Wouldn't be me. Imagine having the wit to remember something from a few hours previously, yup, I'm some machine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 hours ago, welshbairn said: They reserved scrambling for the swarthy peasants. Well, starved or murdered because they didn't realise that Marx had predicted they wouldn't exist as they should have evolved into the proletariat. Marx advocated that they be exterminated like the former ruling classes but for the reason that they would "too backward" to educated. Scottish Highlanders were amongst this group in his list "come the Revolution" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Zetterlund said: Isn't he the Hull manager now? No. he was axed..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Right, but that's a self selective group of hippie weirdos. It takes eternal damnation with your religion to scare most of the assholes and keep them in line. Hippy weirdos, how? I don’t know much about humanism but it just seemed like folk being nice? This religion and eternal damnation caper doesn’t seem to be working. Not sure if you’re up to date on current events, but things are fairly shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, NJ2 said: Hippy weirdos, how? I don’t know much about humanism but it just seemed like folk being nice? This religion and eternal damnation caper doesn’t seem to be working. Not sure if you’re up to date on current events, but things are fairly shite. Right. Because people stopped being scared of what would happen to their eternal soul after they die. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Right. Because people stopped being scared of what would happen to their eternal soul after they die. Or people are committing atrocities “in the name of their religion”. I’ve put that in quotes because I’m not convinced it’s actually true. Or to take agree with your point, if folk are no longer afraid of jeebus or that, if they were humanist then they’d just live a life of being sound? I’m now staunchly (big team found) defending/advocating humanism knowing pretty much f**k all about it?! This place, man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, NJ2 said: Or people are committing atrocities “in the name of their religion”. I’ve put that in quotes because I’m not convinced it’s actually true. Or to take agree with your point, if folk are no longer afraid of jeebus or that, if they were humanist then they’d just live a life of being sound? I’m now staunchly (big team found) defending/advocating humanism knowing pretty much f**k all about it?! This place, man. I was more aping off the point about socialism not working because humans are shits. I doubt a purely positive religion can keep the crap humans in line the same way a negative religion can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I was more aping off the point about socialism not working because humans are shits. I doubt a purely positive religion can keep the crap humans in line the same way a negative religion can. But the negative ones aren’t, or in fact are encouraging idiots to idiot? I doubt it as well, but I don’t think that makes humanists “hippy weirdos” for thinking it’s a better idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I was more aping off the point about socialism not working because humans are shits. I doubt a purely positive religion can keep the crap humans in line the same way a negative religion can. But the negative ones aren’t, or in fact are encouraging idiots to idiot? I doubt it as well, but I don’t think that makes humanists “hippy weirdos” for thinking it’s a better idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, NJ2 said: But the negative ones aren’t, or in fact are encouraging idiots to idiot? I doubt it as well, but I don’t think that makes humanists “hippy weirdos” for thinking it’s a better idea. I tend to think the ideal religion for a society tells you to behave, but also teaches negative consequences. Christianity, for example. Maybe we'd have less mass shootings if a higher % of our population was scared of hell as a consequence for murdering innocent people. Maybe I'm way off base. Just a thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Can nobody from the Great Satan please pollute my thread with this shit? Thank you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I tend to think the ideal religion for a society tells you to behave, but also teaches negative consequences. Christianity, for example. Maybe we'd have less mass shootings if a higher % of our population was scared of hell as a consequence for murdering innocent people. Maybe I'm way off base. Just a thought. But hell’s no real (imo) and I haven’t committed any atrocities? I don’t not kill folk because I’m scared of hell or the devil or any that, I don’t do it because I know it’s wrong. I think teaching right and wrong are more important than instilling fear. That’s also open to manipulation as I think the world is showing - “I’m going to kill them because they believe in a different religion”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxman Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 20 hours ago, Shandon Par said: Impressive trackie top on the PT instructor. Impressive rack on the madel in the middle!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 41 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: I tend to think the ideal religion for a society tells you to behave, but also teaches negative consequences. Christianity, for example. Maybe we'd have less mass shootings if a higher % of our population was scared of hell as a consequence for murdering innocent people. Maybe I'm way off base. Just a thought. Sounds a bit like Islam to be fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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