Drug deaths in Scotland hit record high

[NotThePars]

On 23/07/2019 at 10:20, ayrmad said:

 

The Taliban might have shot women in the head for trying to get an education but they also kept heroin production down so it's impossible to say if they're bad or not.

[Stellaboz]

Oh you know exactly what you were doing when you raised the issue about suicides in the same sentence as talking about the nature of my posts. You're not an idiot. Please don't treat me like one.
But to be quite clear here, you think it's OK to complain about posts you perceive to be condescending, but posts calling people c***s are acceptable?

You're going to ignore the other points made in response or just ignore it for your own little battle?

[ICTJohnboy]

1 hour ago, throbber said:

 

You are the stupidest person I have ever seen post on this forum.

 

 

Are you new to this forum?

[Guest Moomintroll]

You are the stupidest person I have ever seen post on this forum.

How soon we forget Tibbermoresaint.

[Bairnardo]

The intellectual equivalent of Oaksofts arguement here is that recent changes in domestic abuse laws to include psychological abuse are unnecessary cos, well sticks and stones basically.

Medical understanding of things can only move on so far, on the basis that this moon howler has his box that the word "illness" fits into and he wont have it changed by anyone, including those who are qualified and know better*.


*Understatement of the millenium obviously.

[Tibbermoresaint]

2 minutes ago, Moomintroll said:

13 hours ago, throbber said:

You are the stupidest person I have ever seen post on this forum.

How soon we forget Tibbermoresaint.

I see you still haven't grasped irony.

2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

The intellectual equivalent of Oaksofts arguement here is that recent changes in domestic abuse laws to include psychological abuse are unnecessary cos, well sticks and stones basically.

Medical understanding of things can only move on so far, on the basis that this moon howler has his box that the word "illness" fits into and he wont have it changed by anyone, including those who are qualified and know better*.


*Understatement of the millenium obviously.

It's quite clear what illness is and isn't. Snowflakes don't get to change that.

[Bairnardo]

Just now, Tibbermoresaint said:

I see you still haven't grasped irony.

It's quite clear what illness is and isn't. Snowflakes don't get to change that.

Hope you enjoyed your wee time out mate. Dont imagine it will be long till you are binned permanently. 

[Tibbermoresaint]

1 minute ago, Bairnardo said:

Hope you enjoyed your wee time out mate. Dont imagine it will be long till you are binned permanently. 

If I ever need a puppy to follow me everywhere you'll be the first to know.

[Dons_1988]

aaaaand the thread is done

[Guest Moomintroll]

38 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

I see you still haven't grasped irony.

It's quite clear what illness is and isn't. Snowflakes don't get to change that.

Have you not learnt your lesson?

[The Moonster]

1 hour ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

It's quite clear what illness is and isn't. 

Could you give me the definition of "illness" please?

[Dons_1988]

Your actions speak for you bud.
You ignore posts full of personal abuse but when you perceive a bit of condescension you rise to battle.
It's fine. I've seen all this before. I was brought up in neighbourhoods where having ideas above your station ranked as the highest possible social faux pas. It's a very Scottish thing although in fairness Yorkshire people are pretty good at dispensing this as well.
These people are utter poison. I left that environment at the soonest possibility but it still took me a decade or so to break free from it's shackles. It was very liberating and I would highly recommend it to anyone with depression.

That was quite the post but I don’t believe a word of it to be genuine, sorry.

I did not rise to battle, I engaged your points, a request you made of the people sending you abuse.

[Dons_1988]

 
You could just have said something like "Yes I have more problem with a condescending post than an outright abusive one".

I understand that you want to suck me into this. You asked that I didn’t treat you like an idiot, I ask you extend me the same courtesy.

[Ira Gaines]

I tried to find the post on the politics subforum that has oaksoft basically slag everyone in the depression thread, but it appears either he or a mod have deleted it. I'd imagine it was the latter.

It did show where this mentality comes from though. The need to be able to look down on folk with depression and try and paint it as some sort of failing. Naw so easy to do that when you recognize it's an illness. Hence why he'll NEVER deviate from that, and is now trying to deflect the argument to bullshit about insults.

Oaksoft's always been a nasty bitter b*****d.

[Dons_1988]

I wasn't asking for your personal validation.
I was imparting information and advice.
Your opinion of that it not important to me or I would have asked you.

Lucky for you I wasn’t giving personal validation. If my judgement that you’re talking shit is wrong then so be it. If it’s all true then you’re more than capable of dealing with it.

I wish you all the best sir.

[Guest Moomintroll]

I have tried my best to keep my own personal experiences out of this but I am starting to lose my patience with the ignorance being displayed. i have been absent from work for four months since a failed suicide attempt, which is not my first, luck & a wife that I do not deserve were on my side again. I have previously had long term absences due to this & have been diagnosed with Clinical Depression alongside Anxiety Attacks. Thanks to a combination of treatments both medicinal (which is long term in any case) & CBT/Psychiatry, I feel ready to return to work but my Employer, through a duty of care, referred me to an Occupational Health Therapist for a full report to determine my capability to return.

I am under no illusions that this will probably strike me again & who knows what the future holds for me but at the moment I am happily functioning & able to cope with life aside from the usual low moods that you would associate with a Killie fan at this point in time. My overall point is that the person who undertook my examination is detailed below with some obvious redactions.

Dr Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxx BScHons MBChB FRCP FRSPH MSc AFOM Occupational Health Physician, i cannot be bothered listing the qualifications of the various Doctors, Counsellors & Psychiatrists who have treated me over the past years but I am sure they are far better placed to pass judgement & help me to manage my Illness than a couple of angry people on a football forum.

It is time for this thread to either be locked or consigned to the ether as it is helping nobody & as has been mentioned elsewhere, the arguments within are spreading to other parts of the Forum. @Tynierose @Cardinal Richelieu PM me & tell me to wind my neck in if I am talking guff but I really think that this has ran it's course, especially as it has went away from the original subject.

[Cardinal Richelieu]

It's normal for threads to get side-tracked. And there is no reason why we shouldn't be able to discuss grown-up topics such as this and depression on a forum. So I'm going to leave it open for now. 

Having said that, any other posters - particularly those who have received warnings already for this behaviour - who use topics such as this for point-scoring or abusing people affected by issues such as this will get banned permanently. 

I've not read all this thread, but remember if any posts do exhibit the behaviour stated above, then report them and they will be reviewed and dealt with. It's a tricky line sometimes between "free speech" and outright abuse, so you might not always agree with our decisions to delete / not delete ban / not ban, but we always try to be impartial and fair. 

[topcat(The most tip top)]

I The need to be able to look down on folk with depression and try and paint it as some sort of failing. Naw so easy to do that when you recognize it's an illness. Hence why he'll NEVER deviate from that, and is now trying to deflect the argument to bullshit about insults.

Oaksoft's always been a nasty bitter b*****d.

 

How dare you? Oaksoft clearly comes from a background where people seldom amount to anything and ended up amounting to something or other

 

He’s very quiet about that, and will probably be embarrassed at me mentioning it, but it’s clear in the subtext of his work

 

Other people might have let that sort of life experience induce a twisted hybrid of an inferiority complex and a a superiority complex leading them to constantly need to assert their superiority over those that didn’t escape that background and an insecurity when dealing with people that “had it easy”. We’ve all met tiresome ”Self made” bores like that and it would have been easy for him to slip into that mindset

 

but its greatly to his credit that he instead radiates love for his fellow man.

 

Everyone should try and be a bit more like him

[Guest Moomintroll]

46 minutes ago, Cardinal Richelieu said:

It's normal for threads to get side-tracked. And there is no reason why we shouldn't be able to discuss grown-up topics such as this and depression on a forum. So I'm going to leave it open for now. 

Having said that, any other posters - particularly those who have received warnings already for this behaviour - who use topics such as this for point-scoring or abusing people affected by issues such as this will get banned permanently. 

I've not read all this thread, but remember if any posts do exhibit the behaviour stated above, then report them and they will be reviewed and dealt with. It's a tricky line sometimes between "free speech" and outright abuse, so you might not always agree with our decisions to delete / not delete ban / not ban, but we always try to be impartial and fair. 

Thanks Your Eminence, at the risk of being accused of being a Snowflake again some of the content was getting out of hand especially the personal abuse. Now everyone knows where they stand so if anyone crosses the line again then hell ram it into them.

[Cerberus]

We clearly move in different circles. Between my family, my social circle and the countless numbers of people I have worked with over the years, I can honestly say that I've never seen anyone hurl abuse at another human being for any reason. It wouldn't be tolerated.

You never been to the fitba?