Wee-Bey Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I see Rachel Riley is going with 'the wrong type of Jews support Corbyn' stuff. Another huge win in the battle against anti semitism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: I see Rachel Riley is going with 'the wrong type of Jews support Corbyn' stuff. Another huge win in the battle against anti semitism. I am convinced that she is being fed lines by David Collier to attract abuse which they can then hold up as evidence of anti semitism. It won't even have to be anti semitic. They will just use legal threats to get people to admit it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, Detournement said: I am convinced that she is being fed lines by David Collier to attract abuse which they can then hold up as evidence of anti semitism. It won't even have to be anti semitic. They will just use legal threats to get people to admit it. She's certainly getting fed by someone, she doesn't strike me as a keen reader of Chomsky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just wondering... what is the actual evidence of anti-Semitism in Labour? Has there been any convictions? Did it just suddenly surface once JC won the leadership? Labour does a grand job of shooting itself in the foot, esp in Scotland, does it need smear campaigns to discredit it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenal till I die Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 24/02/2019 at 21:15, dorlomin said: Antisemitism is something of a specialist subject for you. So perhaps I should defer to an expert. But I am far more interested in the evidence of such a huge breach in bioethics. My ex worked as a research coordinator for medical trials so I am very keen on the evidence as I can get it to people with clout in the field. I worked at Bristol Laboratories last year. The corners I saw people trying to cut there were shocking. There were people who did the best they could to stop it happening and I'm sure they'd be happy to back me up. They've lost one of their licences and it's up in the air whether or not they get it back. Would your ex be interested? p.s - I'm talking team leaders and managers being bent, not just a few people at the bottom who don't know what they're doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 14 hours ago, Pauli said: Apparently instances of anti-Semitism are down in the Labour party under Corbyn and with ,only this week ,a letter of support signed by 200 leading academic Jewish people in support of Corbyn , fly's in the face of the MSM narrative.... Someone needs to tell Tom Watson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Chris Williamson has been ordered to apologise for saying that Labour are too apologetic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Chris Williamson has been ordered to apologise for saying that Labour are too apologetic. I've just read what he said and I can't see how anyone can disagree with him (other than the usual suspects), he's certainly not done anything which would merit a ticking off let alone a suspension, as all he's basically stated is that Labour are doing more than anyone to tackle the "scourge" of anti semitism, however the party are apologising for things which they shouldn't need to as they ARE doing everything that could be asked or expected of them. What's wrong with that ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I see after being pulled in by party apparatchiks Williamson has issued an apology.... Quote Amid growing anger over his conduct, Mr Williamson is reported to have held a meeting with aides of Jeremy Corbyn's shortly before Prime Minister's Questions began at midday. Minutes later, he issued a statement on Twitter apologising, saying he never meant to downplay the "pernicious and cancerous" nature of anti-Semitism. "I deeply regret and apologise for my recent choice of words," he wrote. "I was trying to suggest how much the party has done to tackle anti-Semitism. "Our movement can never be too apologetic about racism in our ranks. While it is true there have been very few cases of anti-Semitism in Labour, it is also true that those few are too many." Quote At PMQs, Theresa May said Labour's lack of action "summed up" the state of the opposition. The glee amongst Tories & their friends in the meejah is probably the most depressing part of the story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, btb said: I see after being pulled in by party apparatchiks Williamson has issued an apology.... The glee amongst Tories & their friends in the meejah is probably the most depressing part of the story. They just keep repeating the same narrative without any facts or evidence, hence the reason Williamson said what he said. That's the problem when you have "pravda" running your media.................... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, WATTOO said: They just keep repeating the same narrative without any facts or evidence, hence the reason Williamson said what he said. That's the problem when you have "pravda" running your media.................... It certainly doesn’t help that the deputy leader of the Labour Party is endorsing and encouraging the media narrative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: It certainly doesn’t help that the deputy leader of the Labour Party is endorsing and encouraging the media narrative. No, Watson is a disgrace and should be taken to task for his continuous attacks on his own party. If anyone should be "suspended", then they need look no further than that tosser. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 The media should ask the simple question of Corbyn."Are you the anti-semite that is denying it ? "Simple Yes/No answer and that's it all cleared up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 It's strange (or not) that an issue which directly affects a very tiny minority of the UK electorate seems to garner so much publicity. The Labour party could quite easily win an election without a single Jewish vote. Makes you wonder why this is such a massive issue in the media. I don't know any of my circle of friends/aquaintences who give a flying f**k about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: It's strange (or not) that an issue which directly affects a very tiny minority of the UK electorate seems to garner so much publicity. The Labour party could quite easily win an election without a single Jewish vote. Makes you wonder why this is such a massive issue in the media. I don't know any of my circle of friends/aquaintences who give a flying f**k about it. Was the "circle" of friends/acquaintances originally formed in 1930s Germany? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Cerberus said: Was the "circle" of friends/acquaintances originally formed in 1930s Germany? Which part of Suspect Device’s post do you disagree with? If you’re going to insinuate he’s a Nazi it would be interesting to know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Suspect Device said: It's strange (or not) that an issue which directly affects a very tiny minority of the UK electorate seems to garner so much publicity. The Labour party could quite easily win an election without a single Jewish vote. Makes you wonder why this is such a massive issue in the media. I don't know any of my circle of friends/aquaintences who give a flying f**k about it. Indeed. Whilst I don't doubt that there has been some very nasty and almost certainly anonymous invective circulating perhaps this whole issue has less to do with ingrained anti-Semitism within the Corbyn-led Labour Party, and much more to do with a much diminished Jewish and indeed pro-Israeli influence within that same Corbyn-led Labour Party. Having let the hare out of the traps, there are people who for whatever reason are quite happy to see the media dogs run in pursuit of it. And once the issue gains a critical media mass, then it is only a matter of time of before an army of sectarian keyboard warriors dive right into the elephant trap to reinforce the narrative. Methinks, Hodge, Berger, Mann, Austin et al protest too much, and I smell an agenda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I don't doubt there are a load of anti semites within the Labour party who use Zionist as code for Jew. Likewise I don't doubt there are loads of Blairites who use "racist" and "anti semite" as code for people who support Corbyn and have some empathy for the Palestinians. Vote SNP! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just now, welshbairn said: I don't doubt there are a load of anti semites within the Labour party who use Zionist as code for Jew. Likewise I don't doubt there are loads of Blairites who use "racist" and "anti semite" as code for people who support Corbyn and have some empathy for the Palestinians. Vote SNP! Any proof of this sweeping statement? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Which part of Suspect Device’s post do you disagree with? If you’re going to insinuate he’s a Nazi it would be interesting to know. Wind your neck in. It was clearly a joke. I don't think he's a Nazi. But SD and his buddies don't give a flying f**k about the antisemitism present in the Labour party. He has absolutely no concern or desire to try and fix it. Business as usual from Corbyn and Co. That's not great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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