The Gifted Sub Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Cristiano Ronaldo is about a hundred times better than Pele.Messi > everyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Absolute.scandal that Messi never won last year too tbf, but he now has six to Ronaldo's five and Ronaldo will never win another one. Pele and Maradona were also better than Ronaldo, as was Cruyff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Absolute.scandal that Messi never won last year too tbf, but he now has six to Ronaldo's five and Ronaldo will never win another one. Pele and Maradona were also better than Ronaldo, as was Cruyff. This isn’t the Ballon D’Or. Another L for you Supras. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Marcelo in the team of the year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I think, for maybe a year or two now, I’ve been happy not to engage in the Messi vs Ronaldo debate. For me there is no vs and no debate. They are both the greatest players ever, and neither is better than the other.And I ain’t fence-sitting. It’s fact. F**k y’all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Tarmo Kink said: This isn’t the Ballon D’Or. Another L for you Supras. Your mums the ballon d'or 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Your mums the ballon d'orDid actually [emoji1]at that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Your mums the ballon d'orYour Mum is St. Miranda 2. Or was she St. Miranda 3? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 What 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksandr Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 Leave the thread Kuro, the adults are speaking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickoverayard Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Its really down to what you like in a player and if we base it on winning world cups to separate players i find that a but unfair..... theres been a lot of average players that have won a world cup.Both Ronaldo and Messi have been raising the bar for every other player and consistently breaking records for years. For me personally i prefer Messi over Ronaldo and would put Messi down as the best ever. We just need to appreciate seeing these players and the things they have achieved because it'll be a long long time before we see the likes of them again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 On 20/09/2019 at 09:16, nsr said: Maradona all day long. Literally won the World Cup on his own. The other 10 stayed in the changing room. That literally never happened though. Anyway, the answer here is clearly Zidane... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogs Grog Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 One of the biggest misconceptions about Pele is that he played against shite. The Brazilian league was the best league in the world when he played in it, and he took a hell of a kicking from most players he played against. His performances internationally were also ridiculously good, he scored against everyone. He does talk some shite though, which makes people dislike him. Edit - the reason Pele played in a lot of friendlies is because teams/countries from all over the world paid Brazil/Santos to play them just to see Pele.IIRC Brazil didn't actually have a national league for most of Peles career. Travel was to difficult so games/teams played regional leagues which are still important games even today as cup competitions. Working in Rio the debate particularly with Botafogo fans was if Garrincha was better than Pele.Anyway you're right, Pele was better than Ronaldo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 IIRC Brazil didn't actually have a national league for most of Peles career. Travel was to difficult so games/teams played regional leagues which are still important games even today as cup competitions. Working in Rio the debate particularly with Botafogo fans was if Garrincha was better than Pele.Anyway you're right, Pele was better than Ronaldo. They did have a league but it was heavily regionalised into zones such as North-East and South-West etc but the best sides still played each other. It eventually got rid of regionalisation completely around 1970. The state leagues are taken just as seriously as well as the League as you say and were very strong back then too. Pele and Garrincha are among the best ever, both arguably top 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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