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8 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Is drinking not always banned in public parks?

Yes no change at all.

Just seems like they will make folk queue up at one of the three or four un-padlocked enterences and get their bags checked. The wise ones will still get in with bottles of coke that have been pre mixed! 

 

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9 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Are they humming and haw-ing about what to allow and when? No.

And in what sense does that make theirs the most effective approach? You can be decisive and wrong, and you can also be cautious and correct. 

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1 minute ago, engelbert_humperdink said:

The water of leith walkway between Colinton and Slateford is a haven for drinkers I have noticed as I enjoy my evening walk with a medicinal smoke

We have probably passed each other as I'm often hanging about there with the dog of an evening. 

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Not really sure how useful that PHS dashboard is tbh. The travellingtabby site has had all the info available for some time now, and in a more user friendly format too.

I guess the "neighbourhoods" info is new, but it doesn't appear to tell you which neighbourhoods are above 55 per 100k so I don't see the usefulness

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5 minutes ago, engelbert_humperdink said:

The water of leith walkway between Colinton and Slateford is a haven for drinkers I have noticed as I enjoy my evening walk with a medicinal smoke

Balerno is no better with all the undeagers.

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4 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

Not drinking is preferable to dealing with c***s fae Edinburgh.

You might be on to something there. I've not had a drink for just under 2 years and have decided to leave Edinburgh. 

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12 minutes ago, VladimirMooc said:

And in what sense does that make theirs the most effective approach? You can be decisive and wrong, and you can also be cautious and correct. 

You conveniently left cautious and wrong and decisive and correct off that list.

In response to what we should do if there is a second wave, keeping things open is absolutely the correct approach. Stop pretending to everyone we are all at equal risk and that we can prevent all deaths, but at the same time allow those at most risk to take the steps to protect themselves.

The SG would like you to believe that the only reason cases and deaths have declined here is because we have endured a long lockdown with a staged exit.

The data from Sweden shows that the same can be achieved without such drastic measures.

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9 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said:

Yes no change at all.

Just seems like they will make folk queue up at one of the three or four un-padlocked enterences and get their bags checked. The wise ones will still get in with bottles of coke that have been pre mixed! 

Or cram into a train and go to the beach instead...

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1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

You conveniently left cautious and wrong and decisive and correct off that list.

In response to what we should do if there is a second wave, keeping things open is absolutely the correct approach. Stop pretending everyone is at equal risk and that we can prevent all deaths.

The SG would like you to believe that the only reason cases and deaths have declined here is because we have endured a long lockdown with a staged exit.

The data from Sweden shows that the same can be achieved without such drastic measures.

I am not pretending that everyone is at equal risk or that we can prevent all deaths. But we can manage the risk and reduce deaths, that’s literally what this is all about. 

The data from Sweden shows a higher number of cases and deaths than their neighbouring and comparable countries. I’m not sure in what possible way you can define that as a successful model to follow? Because they got to go for pints throughout? 

In the result of a second wave, if it’s okay with you, I’d rather go with the accumulative expertise of public health experts rather than a man on a Scottish football forum who has shown throughout this entire thread that he’s not got a clue what he’s talking about. 

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1 minute ago, engelbert_humperdink said:

Also you would probably smell the weed before you saw me, although I have cut down

Maybe have passed each other a few times then just before the bypass as I often see a young man purposefully striding along having a toke of an early evening. Renton will share a smoke with you but I'm too clean living. 

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5 minutes ago, Shandon Par said:

Maybe have passed each other a few times then just before the bypass as I often see a young man purposefully striding along having a toke of an early evening. Renton will share a smoke with you but I'm too clean living. 

If he is 6'3 ish lanky carrying a blue holdall then thats me

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Genuine question: what do you do for a living?
If it isn’t ‘public health specialist’ have you considered a career change? Seems to be you know better than the accumulated intelligence of the Scottish Government, NHS Scotland and Public Health Scotland. It’s a shame to waste your natural flair for public health (and economic) analysis and insight on a Scottish football forum IMO. 
The situation we are in in Scotland is not ideal. The SG are quite clear that they wish to eliminate the disease, and are taking steps to try to attain this.
The problem they have is that the purse strings to fund that strategy for an extended period are held by a government in a different country, with a very different approach.
At some point that will become a problem.
Vlad, given a talent for replying to a question while completely ignoring it, I'm thinking "politician" might be an appropriate occupation for our resident climate change sceptic...
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10 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Over 750 new cases and 80 odd deaths announced by WMG, what exactly is their strategy as it seems to be just drifting aimlessly. But hey Boris will have all the measures removed come November. Surely that needs a specific strategy with a target.

The English strategy appears to be based on keeping infections below 1,000 per day nationally, whilst allowing a gradual return to normal.

They seem to be accepting of a residual level of cases so long as the number of people in hospital, hospital admissions and deaths are falling, which, at least for now, they are.

I wouldn't put it past BJ to remove the requirement to social distance in November, and replace it with an advisory message instead to do so "where possible"

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