TheScarf Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Who else are the Nigels going to vote for? A clownshoes Labour party? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Gordon EF said: It's fine to question. But you asked the question, you've been given the answer and you're ignoring it and just keeping on asking the question. I'm pretty comfortable saying that isn't something people should be doing. I'm not ignoring it. But if you're comfortable in it not being done and less people being vaccinated as a result, then that is upto you. I think it's more than achievable and hopefully SG push for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Gordon EF said: Because there isn't the capacity to do it. You see where this is going right? Why didn't they just vaccinate every single person on day one? You're not even making any sense now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 @Gordon EF Abort, for your own sanity. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Burnieman said: I'm not ignoring it. But if you're comfortable in it not being done and less people being vaccinated as a result, then that is upto you. I think it's more than achievable and hopefully SG push for it. You absolutely did ignore the answer about "why not make it a true 7 day operation" and moved right on to "well why don't they just increase capacity across the board?". Capacity to administer vaccines is obviously limited by several factors. Rate of supply of the vaccines, the number of staff available to administer them, the physical capacity of vaccination centres and probably a whole load of other things. You seem to be acting as if "why not just do more" is some kind of radical idea that nobody has ever thought about. Of course all governments across the world are trying to go as fast as they possibly can. But there are going to be limits. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Burnieman said: You're not even making any sense now. Well obviously I'm not because I'm following your logic. Why wasn't every single person in Scotland not just vaccinated on the same day a month ago? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 [mention=672]Gordon EF[/mention] Abort, for your own sanity.I dropped it, as it was clear that he just doesn’t get it conceptually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Shipa said: My concern though is that they have done so with their borders all but closed, what happens when the time comes to open up? Presumably strict checks at borders can be kept in place long-term, but these are not a guarantee it will not get in. I imagine they will have plans in place, but again they will rely on sufficient vaccination and controls being strictly enforced. That's the short term future Borders all but closed and every country paranoid about new variants I think all countries will follow suit -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Lads and ladies, the taste of that sweet, sweet sip of the first pint is getting closer by the day. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Gordon EF said: You absolutely did ignore the answer about "why not make it a true 7 day operation" and moved right on to "well why don't they just increase capacity across the board?". Capacity to administer vaccines is obviously limited by several factors. Rate of supply of the vaccines, the number of staff available to administer them, the physical capacity of vaccination centres and probably a whole load of other things. You seem to be acting as if "why not just do more" is some kind of radical idea that nobody has ever thought about. Of course all governments across the world are trying to go as fast as they possibly can. But there are going to be limits. It's a fairly simple concept to understand. A GP vaccinates 100 people a day 6 days a week, but is closed on a Sunday. How about trying to achieve 100 people 7 days a week. Yes supply could be an issue, staffing could be an issue and a whole load of other factors. However, if the doors are closed then they are guaranteed to be vaccinating 0. So yes, I think they can do more and it's hardly an unattainable objective. People were losing the rag over 9,000 last Sunday, it's now jumped to 27k this Sunday, and hopefully we see another jump next Sunday. GP's have their part to play in that as well. No apology for suggesting that things can improve rather than sitting back saying "nah, cannae dae it". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Yep @Burnie_man, usually find you to be an excellent poster and a bit of a voice of reason in the pyramid threads but if you don't see why what you're saying here is fairly ridiculous by now, I don't think further discussion's going to change that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Gordon EF said: Yep @Burnie_man, usually find you to be an excellent poster and a bit of a voice of reason in the pyramid threads but if you don't see why what you're saying here is fairly ridiculous by now, I don't think further discussion's going to change that. Why is it "ridiculous" to expect GP's to do more on a Sunday? I just don't get this acceptance that Sunday's are going to be shite and that is just the way it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Burnieman said: It's a fairly simple concept to understand. A GP vaccinates 100 people a day 6 days a week, but is closed on a Sunday. How about trying to achieve 100 people 7 days a week. Yes supply could be an issue, staffing could be an issue and a whole load of other factors. However, if the doors are closed then they are guaranteed to be vaccinating 0. So yes, I think they can do more and it's hardly an unattainable objective. People were losing the rag over 9,000 last Sunday, it's now jumped to 27k this Sunday, and hopefully we see another jump next Sunday. GP's have their part to play in that as well. No apology for suggesting that things can improve rather than sitting back saying "nah, cannae dae it". Nobody is saying that. We're saying that to do that, you need more trained staff. That's not just something you can click your fingers and wish into existence because you really want it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Lads and ladies, the taste of that sweet, sweet sip of the first pint is getting closer by the day. Amen. Can I have a date please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Yes supply could be an issue, staffing could be an issue and a whole load of other factors. However, if the doors are closed then they are guaranteed to be vaccinating 0. Come on, man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Yep @Burnie_man, usually find you to be an excellent poster and a bit of a voice of reason in the pyramid threads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Amen. Can I have a date please. I'm straight and spoken for sorry. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Gordon EF said: Nobody is saying that. We're saying that to do that, you need more trained staff. That's not just something you can click your fingers and wish into existence because you really want it. I'm not implying that either, what I am saying is that opening a GP's on a Sunday isn't an unattainable goal and we should be working towards a 7 day operation to help vaccinations. I'm not sure why that is seen as something "ridiculous". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, TheScarf said: I'm straight and spoken for sorry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, tamthebam said: I suppose it's typical of the UK that the party that badly fucked everything up in the beginning leading to restrictions having to be put on and then fucked up again and again leading to restrictions having to be put on again and again just has to say "oh, we'll lessen the restrictions" and everyone votes for them. I think it's more a reflection of the opposition as if you were thinking of voting Labour then you may as well just vote Tory as the policies and the views of the majority of MP's are one in the same. Over and above this, both Starmer and Khan have been calling for the same coronavirus direction as the Government throughout this, however the minute the government adopt said policy they then start publicly criticising and calling for the opposite, basically just a bunch of tossers with no actual views or policies who are attempting to emulate the "middle right" of the Blair / Brown regime. A busted flush I'm afraid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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