8MileBU Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, rockson said: If you're willing to trust other people to stay to stay 2 metres away and keep masked, fine. My experience in supermarkets and enclosed shopping centres means I'm not. Even in the open air. If there’s a limitation on the numbers allowed to attend and controlled entry/exit then I 100% trust the club to take the necessary measures and 100% trust other people to keep their distance, particularly at Newtown Park as the way it’s laid out there absolutely no excuse to not be able to safely distance from others. Edited December 25, 2020 by 8MileBU -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BU_Brian Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, rockson said: If you're willing to trust other people to stay to stay 2 metres away and keep masked, fine. My experience in supermarkets and enclosed shopping centres means I'm not. Even in the open air. I get what you are saying Rock, and as horrible as it sounds, I agree with you, ref. trusting some people to behave, to stick to the rules,,, in fact, I believe it may now be ... to stay within the law. But you get these people everywhere... they do not give a monkeys what they do, anywhere. Thankfully, they are almost always in the minority. To combat this, with specific reference to football fans and entry to the games. Everyone must give up their contact details. Once you have these, and they are breaking the rules of entry for that club, we either eject them, or call the police. I know it will never work out that easy, but it is: 1) A starting point (severely restrict the numbers) 2) The marshals have to be as attentive, as focused as best they can and have specific directives to adhere to. Use local marshals that know the people they are looking after. 3) The biggy .... TRUST. There has to be some level of trust between the club and the men and woman who come to their games to support them, come rain or shine. They are not there for any other reason than to watch and support their team. Rock, I do get what you are saying, but truly believe, football fans that are going to watch their team, especially at our level, are there only to enjoy themselves. They are still putting money into their clubs, but not getting to see them live. The fully understand the viciousness of this virus. They all have families that they try to protect. They KNOW that if they get too close, do not wear their face masks or stop washing their hands, the sheer evil this virus could come down on them, their friends and families. Trust Rock, keep the numbers low, ensure their is sufficient marshals, ensure the marshals have their mandate, their specific instructions, tag everyone and give them an allocation and time of arrival into the ground. Ignorant, self obsessed and people with just pure criminal intent will always find a way... THAT is the sad fact. Let's not let them spoil it for us. Hoping you had a nice Christmas Rock. look after yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BU_Brian Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, 8MileBU said: If there’s a limitation on the numbers allowed to attend and controlled entry/exit then I 100% trust the club to take the necessary measures and 100% trust other people to keep their distance, particularly at Newtown Park as the way it’s laid out there absolutely no excuse to be in able to safely distance from others. sorry 8Mile, I hadn't noticed that you had replied when I posted. yeah ... bang on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 minute ago, BU_Brian said: sorry 8Mile, I hadn't noticed that you had replied when I posted. yeah ... bang on. Sound mate, both must’ve replied at same time. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bignose Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I've been trying to subscribe to today's game but I'm not a member of Facebook and it won't let me purchase it Is there any other way to watch to watch it I don't want to be a Facebook member 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BU_Brian Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 36 minutes ago, Bignose said: I've been trying to subscribe to today's game but I'm not a member of Facebook and it won't let me purchase it Is there any other way to watch to watch it I don't want to be a Facebook member anyone got an answer to this as I am in the same boat. An option might be to open a facebook account under a made up name, just for today. I think, however, it may need some form of verification info to ensure the account has some form of accountability: email or phone number perhaps? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo'ness Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Maybe create a new e-mail address just for this, they can be made in seconds. Then just create a shell account on FB with a false name if you wish but attached to that newly created e-mail address. Not 100% on this but just an idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 Takes a few minute to set up a Gmail account and then a Facebook account. Use false names etc if you want .Always good to have a dummy Gmail account for shop receipts and surveys anyway . Great way to slash the spam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 Maybe create a new e-mail address just for this, they can be made in seconds. Then just create a shell account on FB with a false name if you wish but attached to that newly created e-mail address. Not 100% on this but just an idea.You nicked in before me. I have a wee book with details of my dummy Gmail, Facebook and Twitter accounts and their log ins. This to avoid spam and wasters rather than a futile attempt to operate off the grid to avoid the Feds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BU_Brian Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 hahahaha... "to avoid the Feds"... hahahaha ... brilliant Dave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blooz Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Game off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo'ness Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Feck, just paid for it too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Me too. When's the game now? Feck, just paid for it too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 I thought the poor weather would have suited the divers from Bonnyrigg anyway. When is the postponed game due ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Try again on Tuesday. Pitch was playable this morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Refund through already 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Lots of rain since then. Horrible day for football anyway Try again on Tuesday. Pitch was playable this morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BU_Brian Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Hoping it was called off before any of the lads had to venture out in this horrendous weather. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockson Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 21 hours ago, BU_Brian said: I get what you are saying Rock, and as horrible as it sounds, I agree with you, ref. trusting some people to behave, to stick to the rules,,, in fact, I believe it may now be ... to stay within the law. But you get these people everywhere... they do not give a monkeys what they do, anywhere. Thankfully, they are almost always in the minority. To combat this, with specific reference to football fans and entry to the games. Everyone must give up their contact details. Once you have these, and they are breaking the rules of entry for that club, we either eject them, or call the police. I know it will never work out that easy, but it is: 1) A starting point (severely restrict the numbers) 2) The marshals have to be as attentive, as focused as best they can and have specific directives to adhere to. Use local marshals that know the people they are looking after. 3) The biggy .... TRUST. There has to be some level of trust between the club and the men and woman who come to their games to support them, come rain or shine. They are not there for any other reason than to watch and support their team. Rock, I do get what you are saying, but truly believe, football fans that are going to watch their team, especially at our level, are there only to enjoy themselves. They are still putting money into their clubs, but not getting to see them live. The fully understand the viciousness of this virus. They all have families that they try to protect. They KNOW that if they get too close, do not wear their face masks or stop washing their hands, the sheer evil this virus could come down on them, their friends and families. Trust Rock, keep the numbers low, ensure their is sufficient marshals, ensure the marshals have their mandate, their specific instructions, tag everyone and give them an allocation and time of arrival into the ground. Ignorant, self obsessed and people with just pure criminal intent will always find a way... THAT is the sad fact. Let's not let them spoil it for us. Hoping you had a nice Christmas Rock. look after yourself. You may be right at lower levels. There are some right roasters of fans in the SPFL tiers 1 and 2 though and my fears are mainly due to this. Most League One and Two fans are okay. I have no personal experience of leagues below that bar one Scottish Cup tie at a then junior ground - well before Covid.. I wouldn't be too sure marshals would - or could - enforce the rules either. In the heat of the moment of a crucial goal being scored fans might lose their control too. Christmas was quiet but I had a telephonic scare via an elderly friend who took ill. Today it seems he might not be as bad as I feared, though. Look after yourself too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BU_Brian Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 hours ago, rockson said: You may be right at lower levels. There are some right roasters of fans in the SPFL tiers 1 and 2 though and my fears are mainly due to this. Most League One and Two fans are okay. I have no personal experience of leagues below that bar one Scottish Cup tie at a then junior ground - well before Covid.. I wouldn't be too sure marshals would - or could - enforce the rules either. In the heat of the moment of a crucial goal being scored fans might lose their control too. Christmas was quiet but I had a telephonic scare via an elderly friend who took ill. Today it seems he might not be as bad as I feared, though. Look after yourself too. opinions and differences.. it is what we are all about, Rock. What we believe to be the best for ourselves and our families. And we are not too far apart in our thinking, when it comes to the fans. I hope your friend continues to improve. take care. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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