Bundesliga Boy Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Just curious, is there a possible scenario that could see 6 EOS Premier clubs relegated at the end of this season, ie exactly a third of the league? For the purpose of this scenario, lets suppose the lower leagues do get the green light to restart.......I've already entered fantasy land territory, this I know. FWIW, I suspect there wont be a playoff further up the leagues involving a tier 5 overall champion and club 42. Call me cynical. But if it did, and if Kelty (for example) lose to either the Highland champs or the club likely to be bottom of League 2 (Brechin), the Lowland would remain at 17 with the almost guarantee of a team being promoted into it. If the licensed WOS champion, ie Clydebank or Darvel (both trying to get license in time), was to prevail against the EOS champion - and potential SOS champion too, the Lowland would then be at 18 clubs and we know they intend to reduce to 16. VOL and Edinburgh Uni would likely finish in bottom two spots, and geographically both be sent to the EOS Premier - which would then increase to 20 teams. This which would presumably increase further to 22 clubs with the addition of the two EOS Conference champions being promoted into it. Would they honestly look at binning 6 sides from the top league - which as a one off I would sympathise with, or would they attempt a more pragmatic approach - relegate 4 for example and remain at 18, with the hope that things wouldn't repeat itself next year, and then they could return to the optimum 16 clubs. Infact, thinking out loud, what if Brechin had a mini resurgence and Albion Rovers for example fell out League 2 but not replaced by the Lowland Champion. That would add yet another side to the Lowland and a potential 23rd club to the EOS. 7 sides to be relegated - surely not! Yes I know, all very hypothetical, and unlikely too so don't need anyone jumping on the bandwagon re that, however the EOS have a duty to plan ahead for the worst possible doomsday scenario and what consequences that could have throughout their pyramid. Potential crazy times ahead - if we ever get the go ahead! Edited February 13, 2021 by Bundesliga Boy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Bundesliga Boy said: Just curious, is there a possible scenario that could see 6 EOS Premier clubs relegated at the end of this season, ie exactly a third of the league? For the purpose of this scenario, lets suppose the lower leagues do get the green light to restart.......I've already entered fantasy land territory, this I know. FWIW, I suspect there wont be a playoff further up the leagues involving a tier 5 overall champion and club 42. Call me cynical. But if it did, and if Kelty (for example) lose to either the Highland champs or the club likely to be bottom of League 2 (Brechin), the Lowland would remain at 17 with the almost guarantee of a team being promoted into it. If the licensed WOS champion, ie Clydebank or Darvel (both trying to get license in time), was to prevail against the EOS champion - and potential SOS champion too, the Lowland would then be at 18 clubs and we know they intend to reduce to 16. VOL and Edinburgh Uni would likely finish in bottom two spots, and geographically both be sent to the EOS Premier - which would then increase to 20 teams. This which would presumably increase further to 22 clubs with the addition of the two EOS Conference champions being promoted into it. Would they honestly look at binning 6 sides from the top league - which as a one off I would sympathise with, or would they attempt a more pragmatic approach - relegate 4 for example and remain at 18, with the hope that things wouldn't repeat itself next year, and then they could return to the optimum 16 clubs. Infact, thinking out loud, what if Brechin had a mini resurgence and Albion Rovers for example fell out League 2 but not replaced by the Lowland Champion. That would add yet another side to the Lowland and a potential 23rd club to the EOS. 7 sides to be relegated - surely not! Yes I know, all very hypothetical, and unlikely too so don't need anyone jumping on the bandwagon re that, however the EOS have a duty to plan ahead for the worst possible doomsday scenario and what consequences that could have throughout their pyramid. Potential crazy times ahead - if we ever get the go ahead! There was the guarantee of 4 down to get back to 16 and allow 2 Conference champions promotion. The most extreme version after that was 3 down from the LL who would also be going back to 16 and the EoS Premier champion failing to win promotion. That would allow for 7 relegated teams from the EOS Premier. It wasn't likely to happen with Dalbeattie stuck in the bottom 3 of the LL regardless of how playoffs went. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Anything between 4 and 7 is quite brutal maybe a more phased approach would have been better. Suppose the question now would be, is finishing the season realistic bearing the mind we would need at least 2 weeks training before restart. 50% completion may be do-able but I think SFA/Scotgov will be very wary of a public backlash if we return too early with players/committees etc travelling all over between counties. Interesting times ahead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: There was the guarantee of 4 down to get back to 16 and allow 2 Conference champions promotion. The most extreme version after that was 3 down from the LL who would also be going back to 16 and the EoS Premier champion failing to win promotion. That would allow for 7 relegated teams from the EOS Premier. It wasn't likely to happen with Dalbeattie stuck in the bottom 3 of the LL regardless of how playoffs went. If you delayed the number of clubs relegated from the Premier this year, it just would of kicked it on to next season with the First Division relegating more than usual. It was optimistically a one season fix caused by 2019-20. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 None of the scenarios will please everyone, it is what it is I guess. Im thinking 50% completion is most likely but null and void creeps closer with every week that passes. Some teams have 9/10 games minimum to even achieve that. I cant see us restarting till maybe April at best unless there is a dramatic change in circumsatnces 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundesliga Boy Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 Agreed, 50% completion appears to be absolute best to hope for now, but as you say, in the background null and void becoming a distinct possibility. Here's to seeing the back of February as a whole once and for all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Anyone know how it will work if we go to 50% completion if some teams have played each other twice already due to games being re-arranged, will those games be factored in or taken out the equation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Auld duffer said: Anyone know how it will work if we go to 50% completion if some teams have played each other twice already due to games being re-arranged, will those games be factored in or taken out the equation I believe they will all be taken into account. From the bits and pieces i've seen/heard there's not yet been the suggestion of wiping games that have been played. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Thanks for that I hadn't seen anything, not sure how many teams it would affect but I suppose it's not just relegation end of table, would prob have consequences at top end aswell I believe they will all be taken into account. From the bits and pieces i've seen/heard there's not yet been the suggestion of wiping games that have been played. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Auld duffer said: Thanks for that I hadn't seen anything, not sure how many teams it would affect but I suppose it's not just relegation end of table, would prob have consequences at top end aswell I think part of the thinking was that if the you're coming back and only schedule games for playing each other once, it would leave a lot of clubs idle. Then with potential postponements it could get even messy. By still having 2nd games against teams they can schedule say an 8 game run for everyone so it would be the same start and finish. The focus on getting the first time fixtures played and having the 2nd games be top v top and bottom v bottom as much as possible to work a bit like a split. That may well be all out the window. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malty Guy Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) On 13/02/2021 at 00:27, Bundesliga Boy said: Just curious, is there a possible scenario that could see 6 EOS Premier clubs relegated at the end of this season, ie exactly a third of the league? For the purpose of this scenario, lets suppose the lower leagues do get the green light to restart.......I've already entered fantasy land territory, this I know. FWIW, I suspect there wont be a playoff further up the leagues involving a tier 5 overall champion and club 42. Call me cynical. But if it did, and if Kelty (for example) lose to either the Highland champs or the club likely to be bottom of League 2 (Brechin), the Lowland would remain at 17 with the almost guarantee of a team being promoted into it. If the licensed WOS champion, ie Clydebank or Darvel (both trying to get license in time), was to prevail against the EOS champion - and potential SOS champion too, the Lowland would then be at 18 clubs and we know they intend to reduce to 16. VOL and Edinburgh Uni would likely finish in bottom two spots, and geographically both be sent to the EOS Premier - which would then increase to 20 teams. This which would presumably increase further to 22 clubs with the addition of the two EOS Conference champions being promoted into it. Would they honestly look at binning 6 sides from the top league - which as a one off I would sympathise with, or would they attempt a more pragmatic approach - relegate 4 for example and remain at 18, with the hope that things wouldn't repeat itself next year, and then they could return to the optimum 16 clubs. Infact, thinking out loud, what if Brechin had a mini resurgence and Albion Rovers for example fell out League 2 but not replaced by the Lowland Champion. That would add yet another side to the Lowland and a potential 23rd club to the EOS. 7 sides to be relegated - surely not! Yes I know, all very hypothetical, and unlikely too so don't need anyone jumping on the bandwagon re that, however the EOS have a duty to plan ahead for the worst possible doomsday scenario and what consequences that could have throughout their pyramid. Potential crazy times ahead - if we ever get the go ahead! I thought the doomsday scenario was actually 7 relegated. Your explanation cheers things up for one club - whoever they may be. Imagine finishing in 7th from bottom and being relegated. Brutal!! Edited March 15, 2021 by Malty Guy Ooops spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 15 February 2021 at 11:06, Auld duffer said: Anyone know how it will work if we go to 50% completion if some teams have played each other twice already due to games being re-arranged, will those games be factored in or taken out the equation They will be taken out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 No real surprise to see teams in the lower part of the premier league hoping the league is declared null and void as they are crapping their pants in case they might be involved in a relegation battle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 11/01/2021 at 12:09, Truthteller said: That’s the season finished because the covid 19 issue won’t be gone in 3 weeks. All the leagues will have to be voided and hopefully started again in August So which lower Premier club are you connected to Truthy? best go back into hibernation, fishing isn't great this time of year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Don't know about that wee burnie, it took you 2 minutes to bite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Don't know about that wee burnie, it took you 2 minutes to bite [emoji476][emoji476] 20 actually, I let you have your moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, Burnieman said: 41 minutes ago, Truthteller said: Don't know about that wee burnie, it took you 2 minutes to bite 20 actually, I let you have your moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystery Jet Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 we wont need to worry about that... heard last night that Scottish Govt routemap has adult football to begin from 17/5.. far too late to get the season up and running.. so another season of null & void it is.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 The bottom six in the premier will be praying for null and void whilst Leith will be hoping for points per game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Highly unlikely this would happen, but I'd like to see a seeded pre-season mini play-off tournament involving the bottom four clubs from the premier league facing the top two sides from each of the conferences. Two winners would play in the Premier league next season. It would give everybody a fighting chance with something to play for, and perhaps even have fans in to watch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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