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7 hours ago, I'm Brian said:

That's a pretty shite argument. To sustain  life we require food and water and neither lowers our inhibitions. 

Not every two fucking hours of the day we don't, so that's an utterly shite argument itself. 

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You can extend the "but why can't you go a few hours without a drink?!" indignation to any setting. Why do we sell alcohol at gigs or theatres? Why can't you stand and watch a band without needing to get drunk, do you have some kind of problem?

It's a complete fallacy. If there are reasons you think football fans can't be trusted to have alcohol at games then state them, but painting everyone who might just want a pint or two during the course of a game (the exact same way as they might at a gig) as a raging alcoholic is a ridiculous non-sequitur. 

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6 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

You can extend the "but why can't you go a few hours without a drink?!" indignation to any setting. Why do we sell alcohol at gigs or theatres? Why can't you stand and watch a band without needing to get drunk, do you have some kind of problem?

It's a complete fallacy. If there are reasons you think football fans can't be trusted to have alcohol at games then state them, but painting everyone who might just want a pint or two during the course of a game (the exact same way as they might at a gig) as a raging alcoholic is a ridiculous non-sequitur. 

Exactly. Reeks of "I don't want to do it, and therefore I don't want to be exposed to my lessers who do".

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8 hours ago, I'm Brian said:

That's a pretty shite argument. To sustain  life we require food and water and neither lowers our inhibitions. 

Lowered inhibitions are part of what make any crowd fun.

But let's turn this around: it's difficult to get drunk from a standing start in the space of two hours, especially in a football context of warm plastic pints and 20-minute queues. Accordingly, anyone who is inebriated to the point of belligerence at the football (whether in Scotland, or in a real country where not everyone is treated like the worst elements of the Old Firm) did not end up in such a state due to the selling of alcohol at the ground.

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14 hours ago, Specky Ginger said:

Pre covid I usually tried to get down to a couple of English games every season. I have to be honest and say the novelty of paying four and a half quid for a pint of fizzy pishwater in a plastic tumbler wears off pretty quickly. 

No different from doing so at a gig, and that novelty hasn't worn off in 20+ years.

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