NotThePars Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Detournement said: Congratulations on being marginally on the correct side of the argument. Sanctions on under developed nations are always a cruel and murderous collective punishment on the ordinary people. They think the costs are worth it Just now, welshbairn said: The Foreign Office civil servants dealing with it were told to leave what ever they were doing to read the the 10's of thousands of emails they were getting from people asking for help, not so they could do anything about it but so their bosses could honestly say they'd been read. They were too busy wokeing from home 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, Detournement said: Congratulations on being marginally on the correct side of the argument. Sanctions on under developed nations are always a cruel and murderous collective punishment on the ordinary people. No they aren't. It depends entirely on what the sanctions are and against which individuals or organisations within an under-developed nation they are targeted at. For example, sanctions can be directed exclusively at individuals in a regime, freezing bank accounts and the like. Thos are not "cruel and murderous collective punishment". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Pen Farthing is having an absolute heads gone on Twitter after the House of Commons released an email from Lord Goldsmith which said the PM authorised the air lift of Pens staff and animals. Boris rejects the claim, so either he or Lord Goldsmith is lying and Pen is rather upset about it being back in the press threatening to take it further after Chris Bryant spoke about it in parliament. Parliamentary privileged surely lost on him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 When it's collective punishment time. This may be connected to why veru few countries are onboard with US sanctions on Russia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Posted in another thread.m, seems confirmed this happened in Afghanistan. Al Queda head Ayman al-Zawhiri was killed at the weekend by a CIA drone strike in Kabul. He was in a compound owned by a member of the Haqqani Network. The son and son-in-law of the current Taliban Interior minister are also reported to have been killed in the strike, along with other Arab fighters who were based in the compound, which was 250m from the former UK Embassy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 8 hours ago, ICTChris said: Posted in another thread.m, seems confirmed this happened in Afghanistan. Al Queda head Ayman al-Zawhiri was killed at the weekend by a CIA drone strike in Kabul. He was in a compound owned by a member of the Haqqani Network. The son and son-in-law of the current Taliban Interior minister are also reported to have been killed in the strike, along with other Arab fighters who were based in the compound, which was 250m from the former UK Embassy. Was this boy they have killed a member of the government? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, 101 said: Was this boy they have killed a member of the government? Al-Zawhiri? No he was the head of Al-Queda. I don’t think any Taliban ministers or representatives were killed in the strike but some of their relatives apparently were. The missile allegedly used in the attack was an RX9 Hellfire missile which doesn’t have an explosive warhead. It kills its targets by sending blades of metal through the targeted area. Unsure how they could target something so accurately though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Al-Zawhiri? No he was the head of Al-Queda. I don’t think any Taliban ministers or representatives were killed in the strike but some of their relatives apparently were. The missile allegedly used in the attack was an RX9 Hellfire missile which doesn’t have an explosive warhead. It kills its targets by sending blades of metal through the targeted area. Unsure how they could target something so accurately though.Story I read was that he was conveniently on a balcony, and no one else was killed in the strike.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Al-Zawhiri? No he was the head of Al-Queda. I don’t think any Taliban ministers or representatives were killed in the strike but some of their relatives apparently were. The missile allegedly used in the attack was an RX9 Hellfire missile which doesn’t have an explosive warhead. It kills its targets by sending blades of metal through the targeted area. Unsure how they could target something so accurately though. Pretty crazy thing to have developed although not blowing things up is probably a good thing. Although it's a strange situation that the Americans pulled out to let the Taliban form a government and have now launched attacks on their allies. I mean it's good they killed him but ironic it comes days after Biden was posing for photos with the Saudi leader. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, 101 said: Pretty crazy thing to have developed although not blowing things up is probably a good thing. Although it's a strange situation that the Americans pulled out to let the Taliban form a government and have now launched attacks on their allies. I mean it's good they killed him but ironic it comes days after Biden was posing for photos with the Saudi leader. The Doha agreement between the US and the Taliban on withdrawal specified that the Taliban could not provide Al Queda with a safe haven in Afghanistan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, 101 said: Pretty crazy thing to have developed although not blowing things up is probably a good thing. Although it's a strange situation that the Americans pulled out to let the Taliban form a government and have now launched attacks on their allies. I mean it's good they killed him but ironic it comes days after Biden was posing for photos with the Saudi leader. I think the rules of the American withdrawal were, " Don't hang about with Al queda or any if their daft pals". Or words to that effect. I like the weapon though, a combination of high tech and old school they don't like it up 'em. Edited August 2, 2022 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 4 hours ago, ICTChris said: The Doha agreement between the US and the Taliban on withdrawal specified that the Taliban could not provide Al Queda with a safe haven in Afghanistan. Aye as if they were going to ever follow that agreement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, 101 said: Aye as if they were going to ever follow that agreement. They might now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: They might now. They might undertake to follow it sooner than we follow the NIP, that's as optimist as I would be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, 101 said: They might undertake to follow it sooner than we follow the NIP, that's as optimist as I would be. That's an idea, use drones to import goods and avoid all the pesky paperwork around the NIP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 https://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/whistleblower-al-qaeda-chief-u-s-asset/ The Sunday Times was due to run a story in 2008 revealing that Zahawari was a CIA asset until 9/11 but it got spiked by the government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 08:46, Bairnardo said: On 02/08/2022 at 08:45, ICTChris said: Al-Zawhiri? No he was the head of Al-Queda. I don’t think any Taliban ministers or representatives were killed in the strike but some of their relatives apparently were. The missile allegedly used in the attack was an RX9 Hellfire missile which doesn’t have an explosive warhead. It kills its targets by sending blades of metal through the targeted area. Unsure how they could target something so accurately though. Story I read was that he was conveniently on a balcony, and no one else was killed in the strike.... I liked how all his neighbours had been told to stay inside and shut their windows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) I wasn't posting much on the forum at the time this story came up, but seeing as the thread is back up did everyone read this story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62083196.amp In a single tour of duty, a single SAS unit killed 54 people unlawfully, including some Colombian RW death squad style use of drop weapons - interesting, given if I remember right we had advisers there when those cases were at one of their high points in the early 2010s. With this and the inquiry in Australia (I doubt we'll ever fully learn what JSOC got up to) seems that for all the news reports showing squaddies wandering aimlessly around occasionally shooting at something half a mile away we essentially spent the Afghan war terrorising and murdering the rural populace to keep the Potemkin village of Kabul going. Edited August 3, 2022 by Genuine Hibs Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 NATO operates Death Squads. US special forces were scalping Afghans. This isn't anything new for the UK, it's how the army operated in Kenya and Malaysia in the 50s then later in Cyprus and Yemen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Detournement said: NATO operates Death Squads. US special forces were scalping Afghans. This isn't anything new for the UK, it's how the army operated in Kenya and Malaysia in the 50s then later in Cyprus and Yemen. Did you listen to the RWN on Cyprus the other week? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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