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45 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

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Has something happened to this thread or am I imagining that several posts have disappeared?

It was me. I'm writing a book on modern military strategy. The only problems is I know fuçk all about it, so I've taken the posts from here to start me off.

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The Russian MoD has said that their forces have taken Pisky, a settlement held by the Ukrainians since 2014 near Donetsk. This has been claimed before but not verified, seems like there might be more to this claim. If true, the first settlement capture in several weeks.

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The Ukrainians appear to be saying otherwise. Think you'll find the Russians have captured some other settlements in the Donbas over the last few weeks particularly close to Bakhmut after a power plant they had been going after for months finally fell to them. Meanwhile in Kherson the Russian commanders are reported to have moved to the east bank of the Dniepr now that all the bridges are down. We'll soon find out if makeshift ferries are enough to keep a large number of troops supplied to the west of the Dniepr:

 

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On 11/08/2022 at 20:49, oaksoft said:

It's interesting to see the posters who were very vocally critical of Ukraine for using housing estates and schools to fire rockets from, strangely silent over Russia using a nuclear power station to fire rockets from.

 

 

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Think you'll find the Russians have captured some other settlements in the Donbas over the last few weeks particularly close to Bakhmut after a power plant they had been going after for months finally fell to them.  

Bakhmut got me out of some tough jams in Final Fantasy VII.
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On 06/08/2022 at 11:05, The Other Foot said:

Can some of the Amnesty supporters please give examples of the schools in question, and whether or not they are even being used as schools at present? I’m honestly not denying the veracity of this report, but Amnesty have been wrong on MANY occasions and are not particularly well-liked within the NGO community (speaking as someone who has been within that community) 

I usually take anything Amnesty says with a pinch of salt.

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On 06/08/2022 at 14:25, The Other Foot said:

Fuckin hell. For years I’ve thought @virginton was one of the alright posters on this site and now he’s only gone and went full Alex Jones 

There's nothing easier got than a disappointment...

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On 09/08/2022 at 11:27, Todd_is_God said:

I was meaning a more neutral stance overall. Not supplying weapons to one side whilst sanctioning the other. That is not a neutral stance and also has no real bargaining power as you have already played your hand.

The arrogant West believed their sanctions would force Russia to quickly abandon hostilities, but that didn't work and the only real result is soaring domestic inflation caused by massive energy price increases.

It's in absolutely no-one's best interests to maintain this conflict, yet the deep rooted anti-Russian sentiment means the only option considered is to support Ukraine at all cost.

The other option is to let Russia win. (The whole of Ukraine, not just the bits they have seized previously and the now conquered bits.)

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2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

The other option is to let Russia win. (The whole of Ukraine, not just the bits they have seized previously and the now conquered bits.)

Well no, there's quite clearly a range of outcomes rather than a binary choice. The idea that the Russians are about to waltz into Lviv remains utter nonsense. 

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On 09/08/2022 at 20:52, Newbornbairn said:

Talking of Poland, did anyone notice them buying 1000 tanks, 48 4th gen fighters and nearly 700 howitzers from South Korea the other day?  

I wondered what was going on at Mid Ulster Auctions...

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57 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

The other option is to let Russia win. (The whole of Ukraine, not just the bits they have seized previously and the now conquered bits.)

Anbody who claims Putin wasn't after this initially needs to explain what Russian VDV troops were doing at Hostomel airport on day one if it wasn't about rapidly forcing Kyiv to capitulate and replacing Zelensky with a pro-Moscow puppet.

Waltzing into Lviv only looks farfetched now because the Russians were not able to surround Kyiv, Kharkiv and Odesa in the first week and block off the bulk of Ukrainian armed forces from resupply in the Donbas and because thanks to that Lukashenko got cold feet where Belarus participating was concerned.

The reason all that didn't happen and we are where we are now is because Ukrainian territorial reservists fought much harder and more effectively even in what had been pro-Yanukovych mainly Russian speaking parts of the country than Western military experts thought they would.

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The reason all that didn't happen and we are where we are now is because Ukrainian territorial reservists fought much harder and more effectively even in what had been pro-Yanukovych mainly Russian speaking parts of the country than Western military experts thought they would.

The main reason that didn't happen is because the Russian military turned out to have Falkirk levels of competence.
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