Livingston v St Johnstone 15/10/22

[LIVIFOREVER]

17 hours ago, The Wrong Car said:

The second goal looked like a clear push from Nouble, so no surprise it was ruled out

I thought St Johnstone looked good for the first 15 and the idea of a big switch isn’t the worst given Montano and Kelly sometimes struggle to cover the space defensively. After that we took control and should have probably killed the game off

Appreciate its a small sample size, but St Johnstone in the second half looked a mess tactics wise. Is Max K actually a deep lying playmaker or was he just bored of watching the rest of them? 

Clancy was Clancy, no real impact on the game but a number of odd fouls for both. The Obileye handball and decision to chat to players in the last minute before blowing up immediately for full time was just odd

Yeah watched it on bbc alba, though i'd say the scuffle with Ayo going down in their box looked a lot worse than Nouble's and we got heehaw from Clancy for that one, boy's got his hand on Ayo's shoulder and the other round his waste pulling him down. 

[Cptn Hooch]

Yeah watched it on bbc alba, though i'd say the scuffle with Ayo going down in their box looked a lot worse than Nouble's and we got heehaw from Clancy for that one, boy's got his hand on Ayo's shoulder and the other round his waste pulling him down. 

Aye looked a penalty all day...he then gave st Johnstone a free kick for even less which just about sent Martindale over the edge. Chebb had to move the equipment back over the wall to stop him swinging ankick at it

[LIVIFOREVER]

11 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said:

14 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said:

Yeah watched it on bbc alba, though i'd say the scuffle with Ayo going down in their box looked a lot worse than Nouble's and we got heehaw from Clancy for that one, boy's got his hand on Ayo's shoulder and the other round his waste pulling him down. 

Aye looked a penalty all day...he then gave st Johnstone a free kick for even less which just about sent Martindale over the edge. Chebb had to move the equipment back over the wall to stop him swinging ankick at it

Aye can remember that too.

 

Just watched the incident with Nouble taking the ball back towards Shamal at the end, for a start it was already 1 min 30 seconds over the 4 added minutes, had Clancy's watch stopped, Nouble had broke into a jog going back to Shamal, McGowan who was coming back from our box changes direction to barge into Nouble, then gets into a tussle trying to get the ball off him, Ayo gives him a push, McGowan and Ayo get booked. If that's Nouble being aggressive dunno what it made McGowan who started it all, all Nouble did was keep hold of the ball, was no aggression at all.

Given that Clancy blew for FT straight after booking both players, i can only assume he was originally going to wait till Shamal kicked the ball up the pitch to end the game, but McGowan changed that plan and instead needlessly got himself and Ayo booked as the game wasn't going to continue past the next kick of the ball.

[The Wrong Car]

Yeah just watched the last incident back. Nouble definitely time wastes with the decision not to kick the ball back, but he does break into a jog. McGowan, who hasn't exactly rushed back into position, shoulder barges into Nouble and then Obileye gets involved. A booking for Obileye and McGowan seems fair, if there are cards handed out, but McGowan needlessly comes charging in.

A complete non-issue granted, however I noticed that the St Johnstone players seemed incredibly naïve to stuff like this. There was a similar incident when Devlin was covering the ball to George, and McLellan needlessly sprinted the five yards to push Devlin when the keeper has it. All it done was allowed Devlin to go down, referee to check for treatment and a foul so Livi could regroup. 

St Johnstone have always seemed like the sort of team that can handle and cope with this, but a few players seemed fairly rattled yesterday without upping the play to match. I'd add that this isn't a criticism of St Johnstone, but there's clearly not the same mentality that Davidson and Craig brought to the middle of the park when games slumped into this 

 

 

 

[LIVIFOREVER]

23 minutes ago, The Wrong Car said:

Yeah just watched the last incident back. Nouble definitely time wastes with the decision not to kick the ball back, but he does break into a jog. McGowan, who hasn't exactly rushed back into position, shoulder barges into Nouble and then Obileye gets involved. A booking for Obileye and McGowan seems fair, if there are cards handed out, but McGowan needlessly comes charging in.

A complete non-issue granted, however I noticed that the St Johnstone players seemed incredibly naïve to stuff like this. There was a similar incident when Devlin was covering the ball to George, and McLellan needlessly sprinted the five yards to push Devlin when the keeper has it. All it done was allowed Devlin to go down, referee to check for treatment and a foul so Livi could regroup. 

St Johnstone have always seemed like the sort of team that can handle and cope with this, but a few players seemed fairly rattled yesterday without upping the play to match. I'd add that this isn't a criticism of St Johnstone, but there's clearly not the same mentality that Davidson and Craig brought to the middle of the park when games slumped into this 

 

 

 

McLennan got booked for it too, which allowed Devlin to stay down and get the physio on, knowing he wouldn't need to go off the pitch afterwards, complete shithousing from Devlin but as you say, naivety from McLennan, and got himself booked into the bargain.

Edited October 16, 2022 by LIVIFOREVER

[Guest]

Martindale said in his after-match interview he was pleased with our "controlled entries" (his phrase) into goalscoring territory. He said he'd been focusing on this through the week in training and hoped the fans could see what was being attempted yesterday. It was indeed apparent and a huge upgrade on the County match. Sean Kelly was going into Nouble's feet and Montano would overlap, or Kelly went short to Montano and one of them would play a longer through ball for Nouble into the left wing space. The same pattern happened on the right with Obileye, Devlin and Bahamboula. Also noticeable was that once the ball was worked into a high wide position, Guthrie would stay in the centre forward position and instead the far side attacker would drift over to support. So Nouble would drift over towards the inside right channel if we had the ball wide right and Bahamboula mirrored this. That's what the goal came from, working the ball into the high wide left area then Bahamboula drifting over and being available in an inside left position.

When passes were sometimes played into Guthrie's feet centrally, Pittman was always right up there supporting him especially first half. The Stephen Kelly-Pittman duo worked really well, a bit like the old Byrne-Pittman duo used to where Kelly stayed a bit deeper in more of a playmaker role while Pittman made his trademark late bursts into the box.

Credit to George for that game-changing save from May first half. 

[LIVIFOREVER]

Where Bahamboula shot, last week we would've attempted to play that through to someone else in the 6 yard box and not scored too. Got lucky with the deflection but if you don't shoot you don't get the chance of deflections happening either. Yeah also noticed Pittman and Guthrie were in the box when the shot went in, ready to get onto a loose ball spilled by the keeper.