Cheese Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, orfc said: Kate Forbes' views, whether you believe them or not are protected characteristics under the Human Rights Act by dint of being genuine religious beliefs. Anyone saying they'd treat her differently for this is teetering on the edge of the hate crime abyss At least reset the font size so it isn't so obvious you've copied and pasted it. Your 2nd point is nonsense. It's not a hate crime to vote for someone else in a leadership race. She'd certainly have a very, very strong case if she was forcibly removed from the contest or sacked from the party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Benjamin_Nevis said: Do you think "gammon" is racist as well? Good lord. Argue it out with the Equality and Human Rights Commission if you must my good fellow https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/equality-act/protected-characteristics#rob "a belief should affect your life choices or the way you live for it to be included in the definition." That would seem to fit Kate's circumstances, so if you don't vote for her now you are no better than a transphobe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Bodie said: At least reset the font size so it isn't so obvious you've copied and pasted it. Your 2nd point is nonsense. It's not a hate crime to vote for someone else in a leadership race. She'd certainly have a very, very strong case if she was forcibly removed from the contest or sacked from the party. I cut'n'pasted it off my own post on another window, I was going to chuck it on another thread but this one was getting more traffic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Malkmus Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, orfc said: Argue it out with the Equality and Human Rights Commission if you must my good fellow https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/equality-act/protected-characteristics#rob "a belief should affect your life choices or the way you live for it to be included in the definition." Great. I believe that The Caley are going to lift the cup this year and anyone who disagrees is a hate criminal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Stephen Malkmus said: Great. I believe that The Caley are going to lift the cup this year and anyone who disagrees is a hate criminal. As long as it's a genuine belief though, then you can out the haterz as Caley Exclusionist Radical Fans (CERFs) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, orfc said: Argue it out with the Equality and Human Rights Commission if you must my good fellow https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/equality-act/protected-characteristics#rob "a belief should affect your life choices or the way you live for it to be included in the definition." That would seem to fit Kate's circumstances, so if you don't vote for her now you are no better than a transphobe You're also forgetting that sexual orientation is also a protected characteristic. 11 minutes ago, orfc said: As long as it's a genuine belief though, then you can out the haterz as Caley Exclusionist Radical Fans (CERFs) But supporting a football team is not, as seen in McClung v Doosan Babcock which involved a Rangers fan (shock). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Bodie said: You're also forgetting that sexual orientation is also a protected characteristic. But supporting a football team is not, as seen in McClung v Doosan Babcock which involved a Rangers fan (shock). Lol, I thought you made that up, but I just googled it https://www.tayloremmet.co.uk/blogs/what-we-can-learn-from-the-mcclung-v-doosan-babcock-ltd-employment-case/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, orfc said: Lol, I thought you made that up, but I just googled it https://www.tayloremmet.co.uk/blogs/what-we-can-learn-from-the-mcclung-v-doosan-babcock-ltd-employment-case/ Yeah, just good timing for me I guess as I just sat through a 2 hour employment law Teams meeting last week (with another 2 hours next week, God help me) where this case and some gender/trans ones were used as case studies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, orfc said: Kate Forbes' views, whether you believe them or not are protected characteristics under the Human Rights Act by dint of being genuine religious beliefs. Anyone saying they'd treat her differently for this is teetering on the edge of the hate crime abyss Cutting and pasting Joanna Cherry’s tweets thread for this pish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, carpetmonster said: Cutting and pasting Joanna Cherry’s tweets thread for this pish. Equalities Act 2010 = pish? Away to the holding pen with you more like mr. discrimination monster They are all "protected characteristics", not "protected characteristics you agree with" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, orfc said: Equalities Act 2010 = pish? Away to the holding pen with you more like mr. discrimination monster They are all "protected characteristics", not "protected characteristics you agree with" Rancid shite chat thread for this pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, carpetmonster said: Rancid shite chat thread for this pish. Is it all successful gay women you have a problem with? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just now, orfc said: Is it all successful gay women you have a problem with? No, it’s tedious concern trolls of whatever gender or sexuality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, carpetmonster said: No, it’s tedious concern trolls of whatever gender or sexuality. The concern is for you though, from a place of love. One minute it's dismissing the codified legal rights of those holding religious belief, the next, well... its a deep dark hole, young man, a deep dark hole, that's all I'll say -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, orfc said: The concern is for you though, from a place of love. One minute it's dismissing the codified legal rights of those holding religious belief, the next, well... its a deep dark hole, young man, a deep dark hole, that's all I'll say Hit me up when you get to account number 1000 and I’ll post up a gif of some party poppers and silly string for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Thankfully we have fitba and rugby to look forward to this weekend, where religion and politics will be set aside and we can all relax enjoy the sportsmanship on show 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Thats the chief constable of PS resigned basically due to the impossible circumstances of running the organisation. I mean the challenges of Covid, Cop26 and the Queen's Death must have taken it's toll and also point that even if the circumstances are tricky to pull off those don't point to it being impossible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I'm on the fringes of this. I am live and let live. But I don't particularly agree or think it makes much sense with someone having two or more wives or husbands. But if that's what they all want then fine. Not my business. Maybe someone doesn't agree with two men or women getting married, but isn't that fussed either way. Surely you can disagree but also accept without giving too much of a shit. I disagree with Boris Johnson fathering heaps of kids whilst he was in other relationships, but accept it was his choice. Shite analogy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, GTee said: I'm on the fringes of this. I am live and let live. But I don't particularly agree or think it makes much sense with someone having two or more wives or husbands. But if that's what they all want then fine. Not my business. Maybe someone doesn't agree with two men or women getting married, but isn't that fussed either way. Surely you can disagree but also accept without giving too much of a shit. I disagree with Boris Johnson fathering heaps of kids whilst he was in other relationships, but accept it was his choice. Shite analogy. Boris Johnson.... Boris Johnson... wasn't he the bloke who changed religion so that he could have a fancy wedding? That's the kind of religious faith we should all aspire to. Which religion suits me best at the moment... That's the very one for me. Next week? I'll get back to you on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I'm on the fringes of this. I am live and let live. But I don't particularly agree or think it makes much sense with someone having two or more wives or husbands. But if that's what they all want then fine. Not my business. Maybe someone doesn't agree with two men or women getting married, but isn't that fussed either way. Surely you can disagree but also accept without giving too much of a shit. I disagree with Boris Johnson fathering heaps of kids whilst he was in other relationships, but accept it was his choice. Shite analogy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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