Bing.McCrosby Posted Sunday at 16:11 Share Posted Sunday at 16:11 4 minutes ago, Londonwell said: Exactly that. There’s a difference between having the ball and being in control of the game. Hungary controlled the game by letting us have the ball in our completely ineffectual manner and then creating the odd chance on the break. The fact we could barely muster a shot or even a decent attacking move proves this conclusively. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Deans Posted Sunday at 16:37 Share Posted Sunday at 16:37 On 29/06/2024 at 11:56, Bing.McCrosby said: Look man none of this is landing. Ok you've praised everything steve clarke has done for years. And now he's made you look very silly, but you need to just let it go. Why there's even a debate I don't know. How many self inflicted disasters at tourneys does he get? Unforgiveable from Clark and his shower 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted Sunday at 16:49 Share Posted Sunday at 16:49 36 minutes ago, Bing.McCrosby said: The fact we could barely muster a shot or even a decent attacking move proves this conclusively. Two completed balls into their box before the crazy last 10 minutes, I think. That's it. I'm sure there were Spanish apologists saying that they played OK against us at Hampden because they had lots of the ball. Completely ignoring the fact that they did nothing with it and we were completely happy to let them keep the ball in front of us and wait for opportunities. Exactly what Hungary did to us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Scotch Posted Sunday at 16:56 Share Posted Sunday at 16:56 5 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Two completed balls into their box before the crazy last 10 minutes, I think. That's it. I'm sure there were Spanish apologists saying that they played OK against us at Hampden because they had lots of the ball. Completely ignoring the fact that they did nothing with it and we were completely happy to let them keep the ball in front of us and wait for opportunities. Exactly what Hungary did to us. That Spain at home game, they had a number of good opportunities to score and we rode our luck at times, not sure what you were watching 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted Sunday at 17:23 Share Posted Sunday at 17:23 25 minutes ago, Butters Scotch said: That Spain at home game, they had a number of good opportunities to score and we rode our luck at times, not sure what you were watching How many chances did they create where you'd actually expect them to score from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted Sunday at 17:39 Share Posted Sunday at 17:39 49 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Two completed balls into their box before the crazy last 10 minutes, I think. That's it. I'm sure there were Spanish apologists saying that they played OK against us at Hampden because they had lots of the ball. Completely ignoring the fact that they did nothing with it and we were completely happy to let them keep the ball in front of us and wait for opportunities. Exactly what Hungary did to us. I may be wrong but I'd be surprised if anyone is Spain would be saying they did OK Their used to a pretty high standard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted Sunday at 17:45 Author Share Posted Sunday at 17:45 (edited) 2 hours ago, Butters Scotch said: It was more Hungary controlling the game when out of possession for me, 1 hour ago, Londonwell said: There’s a difference between having the ball and being in control of the game. I agree with that. I meant our possession was controlled in the sense we were patiently trying to work the ball and not forcing the play rather than us controlling the game. We got into 2 or 3 great positions. Hungary defended them well: One in particular where McGregor made the final cross, but it was blocked with 3 Scotland players (unmarked iirc) waiting for the ball to land on the 6 yard line. Edited Sunday at 17:51 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted Sunday at 17:59 Share Posted Sunday at 17:59 19 minutes ago, Bing.McCrosby said: I may be wrong but I'd be surprised if anyone is Spain would be saying they did OK Their used to a pretty high standard. There'll be a 'numeros' somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted Sunday at 18:07 Author Share Posted Sunday at 18:07 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: There'll be a 'numeros' somewhere. I think other managers in particular who have been on the receiving end are more sympathetic. Moyes for example at West Ham was not sticking the boot in on TV. Nagelsmann stated he doesn't judge other managers. Same in Spain no doubt. So the people who work in the game will have sympathy, but the customers won't: "This is unacceptable, not what i ordered - I want a refund". Edited Sunday at 18:14 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Scotch Posted Sunday at 18:22 Share Posted Sunday at 18:22 58 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: How many chances did they create where you'd actually expect them to score from? Without going back to the highlights, I remember feeling pretty edgy at several chances they didn't bury, one of them being a joselu header 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted Sunday at 18:28 Share Posted Sunday at 18:28 41 minutes ago, 2426255 said: I agree with that. I meant our possession was controlled in the sense we were patiently trying to work the ball and not forcing the play rather than us controlling the game. We got into 2 or 3 great positions. Hungary defended them well: One in particular where McGregor made the final cross, but it was blocked with 3 Scotland players (unmarked iirc) waiting for the ball to land on the 6 yard line. Your mum can get in 2 or 3 great positions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted Sunday at 18:28 Share Posted Sunday at 18:28 28 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: There'll be a 'numeros' somewhere. The guy you don't want to meet on holiday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted Sunday at 18:39 Share Posted Sunday at 18:39 14 minutes ago, Butters Scotch said: Without going back to the highlights, I remember feeling pretty edgy at several chances they didn't bury, one of them being a joselu header I was shitting bricks during the game. Watching the highlights back though, it's shocking how few decent chances Spain actually created. their best chance was probably Joselu's header that hit the bar. He was stretching for it, it hit the bar and Gunn had it completely covered. It was a decrnt chance, not great. I really don't think they had many, or any others. There were a few headers that were either off target or Gunn had easily covered and one or two long shots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Scotch Posted Sunday at 18:49 Share Posted Sunday at 18:49 4 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: I was shitting bricks during the game. Watching the highlights back though, it's shocking how few decent chances Spain actually created. their best chance was probably Joselu's header that hit the bar. He was stretching for it, it hit the bar and Gunn had it completely covered. It was a decrnt chance, not great. I really don't think they had many, or any others. There were a few headers that were either off target or Gunn had easily covered and one or two long shots. Yeah you may be right but they had plenty of possession in dangerous against us, always probing, they didn't quite get it right on the day but it was night and day compared to how we were at the euros where the looked threatening but we could barely get a shot at goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted Sunday at 18:51 Share Posted Sunday at 18:51 Just now, Butters Scotch said: Yeah you may be right but they had plenty of possession in dangerous against us, always probing, they didn't quite get it right on the day but it was night and day compared to how we were at the euros where the looked threatening but we could barely get a shot at goal. Yeah. I'm not saying we performed like that Spain team did. I'm just saying that sometimes a team who look comfortable passing it around completely in front of the opposition means very little. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted Sunday at 19:46 Share Posted Sunday at 19:46 1 hour ago, 2426255 said: I think other managers in particular who have been on the receiving end are more sympathetic. Moyes for example at West Ham was not sticking the boot in on TV. Nagelsmann stated he doesn't judge other managers. Same in Spain no doubt. So the people who work in the game will have sympathy, but the customers won't: "This is unacceptable, not what i ordered - I want a refund". The Hungary games was bad It seemed as though Gilmour was always back to take the ball of the back three , when at least one of those , eg Hendry , should have been bringing it forward himself Or we could have played 4 2 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankChickens1 Posted Sunday at 19:47 Share Posted Sunday at 19:47 Sack Clarke if we can get someone potentially good. Keep Clarke if the only alternative is someone from the Scottish football stable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted Sunday at 20:26 Author Share Posted Sunday at 20:26 36 minutes ago, Ewanandmoreagain said: Or we could have played 4 2 3 1 If this isn't Scotland building play in a 4231 then what is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted Sunday at 20:42 Share Posted Sunday at 20:42 14 minutes ago, 2426255 said: If this isn't Scotland building play in a 4231 then what is? Haaaaahaaa yeah that's the one man, that 2 second clip You could take a 2 second clip from any match and it could prove just about any formation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Scotch Posted Sunday at 21:55 Share Posted Sunday at 21:55 1 hour ago, Bing.McCrosby said: Haaaaahaaa yeah that's the one man, that 2 second clip You could take a 2 second clip from any match and it could prove just about any formation And it still doesn't explain the fact we are playing with an additional CB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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