HibeeJibee Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 This cup ran for 10yrs after WWII involving the 4 main sports bodies for boys* at time. Most finals were at Wembley with large crowds. I'm trying to identify the Scots involved: any help much appreciated. *National Association of Boys Clubs, Army Cadet Force, Air Training Corps, Sea Cadet Corps... 'junior' was of course meant in the commonly understood sense of children - not the peculiarly Scottish sense Saturday 30th March 1946 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley 15,000 Air Training Corps 4-2 NABC (Brown x2, Wardhaugh, Mackintosh) (Heath x2) Air Training Corps: #7 HA Mackintosh Glasgow #8 JA Wardhaugh Edinburgh #9 R Kinghorn West Lothian #11 R Brown Glasgow Saturday 12th April 1947 at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea Sea Cadet Corps 3-7 NABC (+3) (Powell x3, +4) Sea Cadet Corps: #1 A Patience Glasgow #5 W Calder Alloa #10 W Mahon Airdrie #11 I McDiarmid Glasgow NABC: #6 J Millar Glasgow Saturday 3rd April 1948 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley 15,000 Air Training Corps 2-0 Army Cadet Force (White, Whyte) no teams given 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 27, 2023 Author Share Posted December 27, 2023 Saturday 19th March 1949 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley Air Training Corps 2-2 NABC (aet) (Wormersley, Riley OG) (Leaver x2) REPLAY - Saturday 7th May 1949 at Griffin Park, Brentford Air Training Corps 2-3 NABC (McIntyre, Howard OG) (Terry x2, Lever) Air Training Corps: #2 D Dall Hamilton #3 L Muir Glasgow (in replay only) #4 R Shearer Hamilton #5 J Gold Glasgow #8 R Cromar Glasgow #9 W van der Motten Glasgow #10 I McGregor Glasgow #11 P McIntyre Glasgow Saturday 13th May 1950 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley Army Cadet Force 1-4 NABC (Spanswick) (Henwood, Lythgoe, +2) Army Cadet Force: #2 H Evans Glasgow #7 D McNeil Motherwell NABC: #7 C Findlay Giffnock Saturday 19th May 1951 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley 25,000 Army Cadet Force 2-4 NABC (Rolls, Donnelly) (Williams x2, +2) Army Cadet Force: #4 J Stewart Lanark #5 H Evans Lanark #9 J Donnelly Lanark 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 27, 2023 Author Share Posted December 27, 2023 Saturday 10th May 1952 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley Air Training Corps 3-5 NABC (Westerman, Brolls, Collins) (Bretland, Barrowcliffe x2, Whitehurst x2 pens) Air Training Corps: #6 R Chalmers Glasgow #8 N Brolls Newton Stewart Saturday 9th May 1953 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley Air Training Corps 1-3 NABC (Hunt) (Chapman, Wragg, McParland) Air Training Corps: #6 MP Paton Hamilton #9 M Murray Falkirk NABC: #2 R Douglas Kingseat, Fife #5 J McLeod Deantown, Midlothian #10 D McParland Clackmannanshire Saturday 8th May 1954 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley 40,000 Air Training Corps 1-0 NABC (Frampton) Air Training Corps: #4 S Campbell Dyce #7 W Moore Clydebank NABC: #10 D Dunsmuir Ayrshire 1955 no competition Saturday 12th May 1956 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley 30,000 Army Cadet Force 1-2 NABC (Griffiths) (Denham, Thewlis) Army Cadet Force: #9 D Norbury Renfrewshire NABC: #2 T McCann Glasgow #8 L Denham Glasgow #10 J McPhee Motherwell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Surprised the SFA didn't pull out in a huff that it was called Junior and not Juvenile 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 27, 2023 Author Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) Therefore... 1946 Air Training Corps: #7 HA Mackintosh Glasgow = Hector Mackintosh, outside right, joined Partick for 1946-47 from King's Park School/ATC, later with QotS and St Mirren #8 JA Wardhaugh Edinburgh = Jimmy Wardhaugh... Jimmy Wardhaugh - Wikipedia... inside left, joined Hearts for 1946-47, club legend and international #9 R Kinghorn West Lothian = unknown #11 R Brown Glasgow = probably Ray Brown... Ray Brown (footballer) - Wikipedia... outside left, joined Queen's Park, amateur international 1947 Sea Cadet Corps: #1 A Patience Glasgow = unknown #5 W Calder Alloa = unknown #10 W Mahon Airdrie = unknown #11 I McDiarmid Glasgow = unknown NABC: #6 J Millar Glasgow = unknown 1948 no teams given 1949 Air Training Corps: #2 D Dall Hamilton = D Dall who represented Scotland U18 in 1948-49 from 2166 Squadron ATC but did not become a professional #3 L Muir Glasgow = unknown #4 R Shearer Hamilton = Bobby Shearer... Bobby Shearer - Wikipedia... wing half, joined Rangers from Hamilton, club legend and international #5 J Gold Glasgow = J Gold who represented Scotland U18 in 1951-52 from 32F Squadron ATC but did not become a pro #8 R Cromar Glasgow = Bert Cromar... Bert Cromar - Wikipedia... inside right, joined Queen's Park from 32F Squadron ATC, club legend and amateur international #9 W van der Motten Glasgow = William Vandermotten, inside forward, joined Third Lanark for 1949-50 from ATC, went on to play for many clubs and junior international #10 I McGregor Glasgow = I McGregor who represented Scotland Youth in 1948-49 and 1949-50 from Eastwood Secondary/32F ATC but did not become a pro #11 P McIntyre Glasgow = unknown 1950 Army Cadet Force: #2 H Evans Glasgow = unknown #7 D McNeil Motherwell = Dan McNeill, outside right, joined Hamilton for 1950-51 from Newarthill ACF, after Scotland Youth and Scotland U18 in 1949-50 NABC: #7 C Findlay Giffnock = C Findlay who represented Scotland Boys Clubs in 1949-50 from Giffnock BC but did not become a professional Edited December 27, 2023 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedragon Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1946 – “#9 R Kinghorn West Lothian” is Robert Kinghorn from 1756 Squadron (3rd West Lothian) ATC. He could possibly be the Robert Kinghorn who played for Newtongrange for seven seasons (1948-49 to 1954-55). Both were goal scorers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedragon Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bluedragon said: 1946 – “#9 R Kinghorn West Lothian” is Robert Kinghorn from 1756 Squadron (3rd West Lothian) ATC. He could possibly be the Robert Kinghorn who played for Newtongrange for seven seasons (1948-49 to 1954-55). Both were goal scorers. The Newtongrange player came from Kirkliston and had been demobbed from National Service at the start of the 1949-50 season when he started playing (and scoring!) regularly. Edited December 29, 2023 by bluedragon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 5 hours ago, bluedragon said: 1946 – “#9 R Kinghorn West Lothian” is Robert Kinghorn from 1756 Squadron (3rd West Lothian) ATC. He could possibly be the Robert Kinghorn who played for Newtongrange for seven seasons (1948-49 to 1954-55). Both were goal scorers. 4 hours ago, bluedragon said: The Newtongrange player came from Kirkliston and had been demobbed from National Service at the start of the 1949-50 season when he started playing (and scoring!) regularly. Superb. Navy always had smaller 'pool' of boys so unsurprising if many 1948 finalists never went pro/semi-pro. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedragon Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) Two more! “#10 W Mahon Airdrie” is Willie Mahon who was playing at left back for Whifflet Rob Roy at the time of this match. He played for Scottish Sea Cadets against their English counterparts and immediately afterwards was part of the Great Britain side that went on a tour of the Netherlands. In the 1946-47 season Whifflet Rob Roy played 45 games (winning 37, drawing 6 & losing 2) winning four trophies including the Scottish Amateur Cup (Junior Section) when on 7 June 1947 they defeated Dundee Ashdale in the final. Willie Mahon was invited for trials with Queen’s Park but he was back playing for Whifflet Rob Roy at the start of the 1947-48 season. He appears to have moved to Drumpelier, that played in the same league, later in that season. I lost track of him after that. “#3 L Muir Glasgow” is Leslie Muir who joined Kirkintilloch Rob Roy from Mearns Amateurs in October 1949 after a successful trial game. During the season he still played representative matches for the ATC. He was retained for the 1950-51 season but released at the end. In the following season he was playing for Dunoon Athletic. For the 1952-53 season he joined Neilston but was freed in December 1952. I can find nothing after that. Edited January 1 by bluedragon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbi Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I have this small cup of my grandfathers who played as part of the NABC. I was looking for more information as I came across your page 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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