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38 minutes ago, Unleash The Nade said:

He has to start with Shankland 

If he played for either half of the OF and had netted over 30 goals, there’s no way he’d be sitting on the bench 

 

6 minutes ago, itzdrk said:

I have the full fear he's going to play Adams. 

I'd be happy with either. Both have their strengths/qualities.

However, if we play like we did on Friday then it doesn't matter.⁶

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7 hours ago, Butters Scotch said:

Have you never played football before? Chasing shadows all game cause you cannae keep the ball knackers you out at any level in the game therefore increasing the likelihood of of a poor result or performance. Possession will be key in games against Hungary and Switzerland so unsure why you're being rather dismissive about it. Keeping possession without creating chances is a different story but this team has shown it can build up good attacks when we knock it around we'll which we had f**k all of against the Germans

 

7 hours ago, git-intae-thum said:

Gifting another side 70%+ possession in the finals of an international tournament means it is just a question of how big a tanking they can give us.

That defensive style of football just doesn't work.

If we are to improve them kind of tactics need chucked in the dustbin of history.

 

Every week we see teams dominate the ball and lose. Controlling a game without the ball is a legitimate tactic. Time proven through all eras of football - even a possession era that we're in.

The enemy of possession football is a well organised low block combined with a strong counter-attack. Northern Ireland showed us that. We showed Spain that.

4 hours ago, Bing.McCrosby said:

Well yes we do, as does every team who's ever played football at any level.

The examples you give don't reflect a team doing it well.

Ill bring this quote in now. This is what it's all about. No matter the tactics, the system, formation, it always comes back to the players performing it well.

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Yes......but far more often the team that dominates possession wins.

If we are potential Pot 1 that is what we are aiming for

4 minutes ago, 2426255 said:

 

Every week we see teams dominate the ball and lose. Controlling a game without the ball is a legitimate tactics. Time proven throught all eras of football even a possession era that we're in.

The enemy of possesion football is a well organised low block and strong counter-attack. Northern Ireland showed us that. We showed Spain that.

Ill bring this quote in now. This is what it's all about. No matter the tactics, the system, formation, it always comes back to the players perfroming it well.

 

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13 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

Yes......but far more often the team that dominates possession wins.

If we are potential Pot 1 that is what we are aiming for

 

Is that not why we played with the ball in the friendlies against pot-1 teams? So we can improve that side of our game? Isn't it obvious that Steve Clarke decided we didn't show enough in those friendlies to use that approach against Germany.

A competitive game is different. If we aren't going to be able to dominate a game then don't try. Use another method, but perform it well. Switzerland and Hungary are different to Germany so we'll possibly see more of the ball, but it'll still come back to how we perform. That's the bottom line.

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2 minutes ago, 2426255 said:

Is that not why we played with the ball in the friendlies against pot-1 teams? So we can improve that side of our game?

A competitive game is different. If we aren't going to be able to dominate a game then don't try. Use another method, but perform it well. Switzerland and Hungary are different to Germany so we'll possibly see more of the ball, but it'll still come back to how we perform. That's the bottom line.

Even if we don't dominate....you don't give the opposition +70% possession.

That is madness at international level. Inviting a gubbing.

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2 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

Even if we don't dominate....you don't give the opposition +70% possession.

That is madness at international level. Inviting a gubbing.

I don't think it's that important. Northern Ireland beat us with 17% possession. They gave us 83% and we did nothing with it. Aren't France and Real Madrid notorious in the recent past for not playing possession based football because it gives them space to exploit on the break. There are a hundred ways to skin a cat. We don't all have to be mini Guardiola's.

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1 minute ago, 2426255 said:

I don't think it's that important. Northern Ireland beat us with 17% possession. They gave us 83% and we did nothing with it. Aren't France and Real Madrid notorious in the recent past for not playing possession based football because it gives them space to exploit on the break. There are a hundred ways to skin a cat. We don't all have to be mini Guardiola's.

The NI game qame was the kind of freak result that can happen. It is very much just that though.....a freak result. Play that game ten times and we win comfortably nine of them.

We don't have the explosive counter attacking power of France or Real Madrid....Not many teams do tbh....so that kind of defence and then counter attack is a non starter for us.

If we want to compete....we need to keep the ball.

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1 minute ago, git-intae-thum said:

The NI game qame was the kind of freak result that can happen. It is very much just that though.....a freak result. Play that game ten times and we win comfortably nine of them.

If we want to compete....we need to keep the ball.

I'm sure Steve Clarke recognises that, he's said as much. That's why we took the friendlies we did and tried to control those games with the ball. You should be asking why Clarke didn't take that approach in any of our tough competitive games. Spain, Norway or Germany? 

Probably because we aren't quite good enough to do that yet against a team like Germany and off the back of the friendlies how can you disagree? It remains to be seen if we have more of the ball against Hungary and Switzerland, but the point still stands that no matter how we approach the next two games the players have to perform the game plan, whatever that might be, at a higher performance level. 

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7 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

 

I'd be happy with either. Both have their strengths/qualities.

However, if we play like we did on Friday then it doesn't matter.⁶

Exactly. If we can't keep the ball long enough to mount any kind of attack it's irrelevant who's playing up front. 

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Gunn*

Hendry  Hanley  Tierney

Ralston**                                        Robertson

Gilmour  McTominay  McGregor

McGinn

Shankland

*Not getting dropped and no one to drop him for

**Would possibly just fire in Forrest as it can't be any worse surely

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7 minutes ago, Galajambo said:

I'm still tempted to play Tierney at right back, he's solid, and we're very weak there with either Ralston or McRorie. 

How about a mad change to 3-4-3?

Gunn

Hendry - McKenna - Cooper*

Tierney - Gilmour - Christie - Robertson

McTominay - Adams - Armstrong

*Or whichever CBs you fancy really.

It will have the element of surprise at least.

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1 hour ago, Alan Twelve said:

How about a mad change to 3-4-3?

Germany started their build up phase with three mostly, Kroos, Tah and Rudiger, and sometimes a four even though they had a back-4 on paper. The Netherlands did the same back in March. Scotland sometimes build up in a four even though we start with a back-3 on paper. No reason to get hung up over the starting firmation boys.

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1 hour ago, Alan Twelve said:

How about a mad change to 3-4-3?

Gunn

Hendry - McKenna - Cooper*

Tierney - Gilmour - Christie - Robertson

McTominay - Adams - Armstrong

*Or whichever CBs you fancy really.

It will have the element of surprise at least.

Dropping McGann is pretty mad.

We only really play 3 at the back because of Tierney/Robertson. If you wanted Tierney at RB, just leave Cooper out and bolster that soft as shite looking midfield.

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