WhiteRoseKillie Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Fullerene said: I agree. The tweet is moronic. Why vote at all? Somebody is going to win and then whoever it is will be your local champion. Hurrah. In the meantime, a government you despise has been elected yet again. Some people never see the big picture. I was listening to (catching up with) Alexei Sayle's podcast this morning, and this "local champion" bollocks came up with regard to the Hartlepool by-election. This was the seat of one P. Mandelson in the Blair years. A man who couldn't recognise mushy peas when he saw them. A man who required a native guide if ever he ventured outside the M25. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 hours ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Clive will be a good Cabinet member once we get back to choosing on ability. I'd have him as shdow foreign. He had a load of allegations thrown at him thrown at him back when anyone seen as part of the "Corbyn Project" had to be vilified, due to the almighty scare the 2017 election gave the tories and their media chums. Not just the sexual harrassment, he was apparently misogynistic and a bit of a coconut. Not surprising he doesn't want to go for the big job. There might be an element of that I haven't a clue but criticism of Lewis wasn't limited to opponents of Corbyn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Clive Lewis. Letf wing but went to Sandhurst in 2005. Not at all dodgy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Clive Lewis. Letf wing but went to Sandhurst in 2005. Not at all dodgy.*stifles yawn* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Clive Lewis a Manchurian candidate eh. Lewis v Rory Stewart for PM in 2030. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Clive Lewis. Letf wing but went to Sandhurst in 2005. Not at all dodgy.What is dodgy about going to Sandhurst ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, jakedee said: 6 hours ago, Detournement said: Clive Lewis. Letf wing but went to Sandhurst in 2005. Not at all dodgy. What is dodgy about going to Sandhurst ? Why would a left wing journalist in 2005 decide that they want to get involved in the War on Terror? His career path is NUS, BBC, Army, MP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Why would a left wing journalist in 2005 decide that they want to get involved in the War on Terror? His career path is NUS, BBC, Army, MP.Ah, so not specifically Sandhurst then, just the armed forces in general.Maybe he was just bored at w/ends. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Hahaha. What was it David Graeber said? Labour under Starmer will give people no reason to vote for them and will act surprised when nobody bothers to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Jezza in his element here. You couldn’t fit a Hamas flag between him and 1990s George Galloway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Jezza in his element here. You couldn’t fit a Hamas flag between him and 1990s George Galloway. Good stuff. He was a shite party leader, but his heart's in the right place. I imagine the MSM will be absolutely furious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Day of the Lords said: Good stuff. He was a shite party leader, but his heart's in the right place. I imagine the MSM will be absolutely furious. I kinda look back on the Jez years warmly. What he was proposing was unpopular with middle England and terribly presented, but it was genuinely held and you had an idea of what he was all about. Sir Keith is the equivalent of an IKEA Lack coffee table. It's there, it's not exciting and you have to put the pieces together yourself. Edited June 13, 2021 by speckled tangerine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 This can only go well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 What a demented party 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 He must be doing this on purpose now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 "Am I strong enough ? Hell yes I'm strong enuss" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 missed opportunity imo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I cannot think of one occasion or one issue where Starmer has bested Johnson. That’s a shocking indictment and bodes so badly for the democratic political institutions of the U.K. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I see that it's possible to beat the Tories in by-elections if you actually spend some time criticising them rather than talking up their amazing brilliant wonderful vaccine rollout. If they lose Batley & Spen then surely Starmer has to go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: I see that it's possible to beat the Tories in by-elections if you actually spend some time criticising them rather than talking up their amazing brilliant wonderful vaccine rollout. If they lose Batley & Spen then surely Starmer has to go? There's no if about it. When your leader calls himself a Zionist, your chances of winning a seat which is almost a quarter Muslim are going to take a hit. And that's before we get to the general problem with Starmer - he has nothing to offer. Zilch. No passion, no belief, no ideas except to ape the Tories. We either lose Starmer, or the Party dies. It's that simple. From the highs of 2017, it has been heartbreaking to watch this slow suicide of a once-great Party. The massive increase in membership (and income) seen through the Corbyn period has gone, and there's nothing to bring those lost members back. We had to fucking pay door-knockers in Hartlepool, ffs, when four years ago buses were going to neighbouring areas packed with volunteers to support campaigns. An entire generation of members, pissed away so that we can be "more electable". More electable? two things, Keir: 1. Look at last night's result. 2. If you actually care about Labour, fúck off now while you can still retain some miniscule shred of dignity. You can always cross the floor - there's Tories who have criricised this Government more than you have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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