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On 28/05/2024 at 10:00, Florentine_Pogen said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/israeli-spy-chief-icc-prosecutor-war-crimes-inquiry

"The former head of the Mossad, Israel’s foreign intelligence agency, allegedly threatened a chief prosecutor of the international criminal court in a series of secret meetings in which he tried to pressure her into abandoning a war crimes investigation, the Guardian can reveal.

Yossi Cohen’s covert contacts with the ICC’s then prosecutor, Fatou Bensouda, took place in the years leading up to her decision to open a formal investigation into alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity in occupied Palestinian territories."

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Watched C4 Dispatches last night 'Kill Zone : Inside Gaza'.  Absolutely heartbreaking.

Follow up to that:

The limits to these ICC arrest warrants have correctly been pointed out. I think what these revelations show, though, is that there is at least some weight to them. These Israeli figures wouldn't have gone to all this effort otherwise.

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1 hour ago, Freedom Farter said:

From Jerusalem, last August. Worth considering these stories to give a flavour of what goes on throughout the occupied territories and long before last October.



If found guilty the cops should be subsequently punished. The rule of law being applied evenly and fairly to all is the cornerstone of democracy.

A good post from The Farter.

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On 28/05/2024 at 19:09, Zetterlund said:

This may be the sickest thing I've seen yet from a politician. What's wrong with these arseholes? What an utterly awful human being.

 

 

Those shells in the left background are illegal white phosphorous shells too.  

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59 minutes ago, The DA said:

Those shells in the left background are illegal white phosphorous shells too.  

Yeah, but it’s Israel so it doesn’t count.

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1 hour ago, The DA said:

Those shells in the left background are illegal white phosphorous shells too.  

This is antisemitic.  Obviously Hamas planted these there. 

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12 hours ago, Mr Waldo said:

How do you know those are are 'illegal white phosphorus shells'?

It's true that simply having white phosphorus munitions isn't illegal as their primary use is supposed to be as a smoke screen and so their use against military targets isn't prohibited, but it's illegal to use them in civilian areas as the risk of indiscriminate harm to non-combatants is so high (something Israel clearly cares deeply about). If they're used in Rafah it would therefore be illegal, and they have used them in Gaza as well as Lebanon since October.

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13 hours ago, Mr Waldo said:

How do you know those are are 'illegal white phosphorus shells'?

Pale green with red and yellow bands denotes US M825A1 155 mm artillery shells.

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Netanyahu has been invited to address a joint meeting of Congress.

What sort of fucked up world are we living in where a man actively engaged in genocidal acts is being lauded in this way by the most powerful country in the world.

The USA is a monstrous joke and many European countries are enablers.

 

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1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

Netanyahu has been invited to address a joint meeting of Congress.

What sort of fucked up world are we living in where a man actively engaged in genocidal acts is being lauded in this way by the most powerful country in the world.

The USA is a monstrous joke and many European countries are enablers.

 

We can but live in hope that they are inviting him there under false pretences in order to deliver some telts. 

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35 minutes ago, Moomintroll said:

We can but live in hope that they are inviting him there under false pretences in order to deliver some telts. 

If the invite was coming from Biden there would be an outside chance of that, but it’s coming from Schumer and Johnson and their Senate/Congress counterparts.

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1 minute ago, Granny Danger said:

If the invite was coming from Biden there would be an outside chance of that, but it’s coming from Schumer and Johnson and their Senate/Congress counterparts.

I know GD, I know. Given my  previous stance with regards to that part of the world before what is unfolding right now, you would hope that somebody of substance might just say, well hang on a minute here......

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12 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

Today Pro-Hamas protestors blocked the Pride Parade in Philadelphia. 
It was difficult to tell which side was which as both sides had Queers for Palestine signs and deep-seated anti-Semitism.

 

Hamas will not approve of Queers for Palestine. As a matter of simple fact they will execute them although they will heartily agree with the antisemitism. In other news Netanyahu & Senior IDF Commanders are War Criminals & should be treated like the Nazis they are. The two facts are not mutually exclusive.

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14 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

Today Pro-Hamas protestors blocked the Pride Parade in Philadelphia. 
It was difficult to tell which side was which as both sides had Queers for Palestine signs and deep-seated anti-Semitism.

 

I quite enjoy your obviously parody posts of the melted ice cream brains of the the Twitter pro Isreal lobby.

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14 hours ago, Moomintroll said:

Hamas will not approve of Queers for Palestine. As a matter of simple fact they will execute them

There's no evidence of Hamas ever having executed anyone for being homosexual. 

The only claim is this one by the New York Times:

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The New York Times is infamously unreliable in its reporting on Israel. It was recently forced to retract its claims about sexual violence during the massacres in southern Israel last October. The main writer, Anat Schwartz - a former IDF Intelligence member, had been citing the organisation Zaka. Israeli publication Haaretz uncovered how Zaka is ran by an extremist Orthodox sect who'd fabricated their claims, which Schwartz had then repeated in her NYT output (https://archive.ph/17K6H).

 

Hamas are a viciously homophobic organisation but they have not been killing homosexual Gazans. Israeli bombs have, of course.

The comment you replied to above mentions Pride parades. In 2016 in Israel, a Pride parade participant was murdered by a homophobic Haredi settler and five other participants were wounded by him. The same man had previously stabbed Pride parade participants in 2005 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36634148). Pride parades can only take place in Israel under heavy police protection (https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-on-high-alert-ahead-of-jerusalem-pride-parade-threatened-by-violence/).

 

Finally, this is probably a concept folk should be aware of:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT)

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